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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 10:57 AM


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The host here (Doug) is a gasoline expert, but until he corrects me, what I gather is that ethanol is added in, diluting California sold gasoline... thus making the nation's most expensive gas, the least efficient for energy (requiring more gallons to go the same distance).
Smart, huh? :o:(:?::rolleyes:

It seems like the only ones it benefits are the midwest corn farmers.
So does the gas in Baja have ethanol?
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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 12:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pescadorrr  

So does the gas in Baja have ethanol?


Ethanol and other additives are usually added at the terminal. So gasoline in northern baja, that comes from socal or usa, probably does not have ethanol.

These articles suggests that mexico fuels may be a variety of blends, legal or not,…

https://www.opisnet.com/blog/mexico-101-illegal-fuel-imports...

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insight...

Dont know if the black market fuel is in baja or just a mainland thing…



[Edited on 4-8-2024 by mtgoat666]




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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 04:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by pescadorrr  


It seems like the only ones it benefits are the midwest corn farmers.


From google bard:

"Ethanol has a higher octane number than gasoline, providing premium blending properties. Minimum octane number requirements for gasoline prevent engine knocking and ensure drivability. Lower-octane gasoline is blended with 10% ethanol to attain the standard 87 octane.

Ethanol contains less energy per gallon than gasoline, to varying degrees, depending on the volume percentage of ethanol in the blend. Denatured ethanol (98% ethanol) contains about 30% less energy than gasoline per gallon. Ethanol's impact on fuel economy is dependent on the ethanol content in the fuel and whether an engine is optimized to run on gasoline or ethanol.


Ethanol also reduces harmful tailpipe emissions, such as carbon monoxide, exhaust hydrocarbons, air toxics, and fine particulate matter. A 2019 study found that ethanol has the potential to emit 39-43% less harmful greenhouse gas emissions than gasoline.
Ethanol is made from corn, crop waste, wood chips, or sugarcane. Refineries add extra chemicals to make it poisonous and unfit for human consumption.

Most gasoline contains 10% ethanol, which is known as E10. The number after the "E" indicates the percentage of ethanol by volume in the fuel. Ethanol-free gas contains about one third more energy than ethanol-based gas, so it can result in slightly better mileage.

Ethanol has about 67% of the energy content of gasoline per gallon, so using ethanol blends results in lower vehicle fuel economy (miles traveled per gallon) than gasoline that does not contain ethanol. For example, vehicle fuel economy may decrease by about 3% when using E10."




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[*] posted on 4-8-2024 at 08:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by pescadorrr  


It seems like the only ones it benefits are the midwest corn farmers.


From google bard:

"Ethanol has a higher octane number than gasoline, providing premium blending properties. Minimum octane number requirements for gasoline prevent engine knocking and ensure drivability. Lower-octane gasoline is blended with 10% ethanol to attain the standard 87 octane.

Ethanol contains less energy per gallon than gasoline, to varying degrees, depending on the volume percentage of ethanol in the blend. Denatured ethanol (98% ethanol) contains about 30% less energy than gasoline per gallon. Ethanol's impact on fuel economy is dependent on the ethanol content in the fuel and whether an engine is optimized to run on gasoline or ethanol.


Ethanol also reduces harmful tailpipe emissions, such as carbon monoxide, exhaust hydrocarbons, air toxics, and fine particulate matter. A 2019 study found that ethanol has the potential to emit 39-43% less harmful greenhouse gas emissions than gasoline.
Ethanol is made from corn, crop waste, wood chips, or sugarcane. Refineries add extra chemicals to make it poisonous and unfit for human consumption.

Most gasoline contains 10% ethanol, which is known as E10. The number after the "E" indicates the percentage of ethanol by volume in the fuel. Ethanol-free gas contains about one third more energy than ethanol-based gas, so it can result in slightly better mileage.

Ethanol has about 67% of the energy content of gasoline per gallon, so using ethanol blends results in lower vehicle fuel economy (miles traveled per gallon) than gasoline that does not contain ethanol. For example, vehicle fuel economy may decrease by about 3% when using E10."


Gasoline with oxygenates may get lower mpg, but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. And let’s be honest, if you deeply cared about fuel economy, you would drive an econo car…
Good artcicle,…
https://www.performanceracing.com/magazine/columns/06-01-202...

[Edited on 4-9-2024 by mtgoat666]




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