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[*] posted on 3-22-2005 at 06:07 PM


Information on how the now banned pesticide chlordane is still harming the health of millions of people in the United States and other countries today.

Doctors and scientists who are knowledgeable on the chlordane problem state millions of adults and children are becoming sick by living in homes built before April, 1988 (the period when chlordane, originally developed by Monsanto, was allowed to be used). Chlordane contaminates the air of over 30 million U.S. homes by diffusion through concrete flooring - ceiling drywall - or outgassing from previously treated indoor areas. Documented health problems can include child cancers, neuroblastoma, leukemia, chronic infections, bronchitis, asthma, sinusitis, infertility, neurological disorders, aggression and depression.

Unfortunately, due to the lack of obvious odor or easily administered test, most occupants are unaware this pesticide is in the indoor air they are breathing hour after hour.

By Wayne Sinclair, M.D.
Allergy, Asthma & Immunology
Richard W. Pressinger, M.Ed.
Tampa, Florida

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The Chlordane Problem
Why scientists consider chlordane a health threat surpassing cigarettes and radon -
What is chlordane? - When was the mistake realized -
How widespread a problem? -Which homes affected?
Immune problems worse in chlordane treated homes
Sinusitis, bronchitis, migraines, cough and anemia higher in chlordane homes
Immune system damage & autoimmune disorders
The body's cancer fighting cells are paralyzed by chlordane and how chlordane can literally make the body's immune cells attack healthy tissue by mistake (called autoimmunity)
Hidden neurological problems found
Chlordane suspected of causing chronic fatigue, depression, anger, memory and concentration problems in adults living in a chlordane treated apartment complex
Asthma and allergies higher in chlordane homes
As chlordane has shown strong immune damaging potential
Asthma and allergies are an expected consequence.
Neuroblastoma and leukemia higher
Children develop blood disorders and neuroblastoma following chlordane treatments in the home
Liver damage and chlordane
Chlordane shows the ability to cause liver damage at low exposure levels
Male and female infertility problems
Research shows chlordane can cause infertility and sperm damage
High school closes due to chlordane treatment
Teachers and students complained for 4 years before chlordane was found to be the cause of illnesses in this Virginia High School.
Overweight is a symptom of chlordane exposure
Surprising increases in body weight have been found to occur in test animals exposed to chlordane.
Researchers are not sure if this is due to the ability of chlordane to alter hormones or chlordane's ability to damage brain centers controlling body weight.
Chlordane & Dursban Air Test Results
This table summarizes eight different indoor air testing projects by the U.S. Air Force and Governmental Agencies of over 1000 U.S. homes. Pesticides sampled include 6 chlordane test projects and 2 Dursban test projects. These test results clearly show how serious and widespread the chlordane indoor air problem is in pre-1988 homes.



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75% of U.S. Homes Contaminated
with Chlordane
New research shows that people living in homes built before April of 1988 are most likely breathing the pesticide chlordane each minute they are in the house. In fact, research by the U.S. Air Force and the New Jersey Department of Environmental Regulation has found in tests of over 1000 homes, that approximately 75% contain chlordane in the indoor air and 7% are over the maximum safe levels according to National Academy of Science (NAS) guidelines (1). These figures are suspected of being the same throughout the U.S.

Chlordane's History

Chlordane was the pesticide used to prevent or eliminate termites during the 1950's, 60's, 70's and 80's. However, after many reports of serious illness among both adults and children following its application and links to cancer in animals, chlordane was finally banned by the EPA in March of 1988. Unfortunately, the ban did not take place until over 30 million homes throughout the U.S. had been treated. Concerns in Florida are even greater because of the increased termite problem and the fact that research shows chlordane is higher in homes built on sandy soils.

Most homeowners are unaware that just before the concrete slab was poured for their home's foundation, a pesticide company had come in and saturated the soil with 100 gallons of chlordane per 1000 square feet of area. People were literally building their homes on top of a toxic chemical dump. The public was reassured by the pesticide industry and entomologists that this was a safe procedure and that the chemical would not enter into the home because of the barrier provided by the cement foundation. However, this turned out not to be the case.


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Homes Remain Contaminated For Decades
Chlordane is such a highly toxic and persistent chemical that homes treated 20-30 years ago are still showing unsafe levels of chlordane in the indoor air. The problem occurs because the hundreds of gallons of chlordane underneath the home are slowly evaporating, rising through cracks in the foundation or around plumbing pipes and entering the home. One of the first studies to find there was a problem came in the 1970's when the U.S. Air Force randomly tested over 500 apartments and housing units of its airmen. Results showed approximately 75% of the units tested contained chlordane in the air and over 5% were above the National Academy of Sciences "safety guidelines" of 5 micrograms per cubic meter of air (1).

Unfortunately, this is turning out not to be an isolated case. Further studies by the New Jersey Department of Environmental Regulation and other agencies have found similar results in hundreds of homes in New Jersey and New York. Of great concern, when testing 64 homes built before 1980, researchers found more than 30% of the homes contained chlordane levels above the 5 microgram safety limit set by the National Academy of Sciences (2).

Illnesses Linked To Chlordane Home Exposure
There are now several university studies showing even so-called acceptable levels of chlordane in indoor air can cause respiratory and neurological problems. These are outlined by sections below:



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Families in apartment complex treated with chlordane show increases in sinusitis, bronchitis, migraines, cough & anemia
JOURNAL: Bulletin of Environmental Contamination Toxicology, 39:903 (1987)

A study of 261 people who were either living or had lived in homes with higher air chlordane levels were found to have nearly three-times more respiratory illnesses, including sinusitis (infection of the sinuses) and bronchitis. The study, conducted at the School of Public Health, University of Illinois, also found other illnesses significantly more often in the chlordane homes. These included chronic cough, anemia, neuritis, ovarian/uterine disease and skin disorders. The migraine headaches, which was the worst acute symptom found, was occurring in 22% of people living in the higher level chlordane homes.

An important point of this study is that researchers divided the 261 people into three groups based on the level of chlordane found in their homes. These included:

LOW EXPOSURE (under 1 microgram of chlordane per cubic meter of air in the home)
MEDIUM EXPOSURE (1-5 micrograms of chlordane per cubic meter of air in the home)
HIGH EXPOSURE (over 5 micrograms of chlordane per cubic meter of air in the home)
Separating people into these groups is done in order to look for what is called a "dose-response" effect, which strongly suggests that the chemical is in fact causing the illnesses. A dose-response effect means that as the amount of chlordane in the air increases, we would also see a corresponding increase in health problems. This is in fact, exactly what the researchers stated they had found. In conclusion, Dr. Clark stated,

"The finding of a dose-response relationship between the indoor air concentrations of chlordane and three self-reported chronic health conditions (migraine, sinusitis, and bronchitis) suggests that chlordane could have chronic human health impacts. The association between chlordane and migraine and bronchitis is consistent with previous reports of these symptoms in chlordane poisoning or incident cases. Aplastic and acute refractory megaloblastic anemia and effects on the female reproductive system have also been associated with chlordane and/or heptachlor exposure. In our study, half the homes judged to have had a proper termiticide application had detectable air levels of chlordane, an average of 2.7 micrograms per cubic meter, months to years following the last application... The United States Environmental Protection Agency has often considered lifetime cancer risks exceeding one in a million as unacceptable. An air level of less than 0.1 micrograms per cubic meter, which appears unachievable, may need to be required to have cancer risks within an acceptable range. On August 11, 1987, on the basis of new evaluations regarding the safety of the cyclodiene termiticides, EPA announced the cancellation of virtually all termiticide uses of chlordane, heptachlor, aldrin and dieldrin."

This study was reported by Dr. J. Milton Clark, Ph.D.
School of Pubic Health, University of Illinois (3).

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Immune System Damage & Autoimmune Problems
JOURNAL: Archives of Environmental Health, 43(5):349-352 (1988)
An excellent test to determine how well a person's immune system is functioning is called "proliferative response." This test measures how fast a person's immune system cells multiply in order to eliminate invading bacteria or viruses. In several different tests of proliferative response, conducted at the Southern Illinois School of Medicine, it was found that people living in chlordane treated homes had immune system cells that multiplied only about half as fast as immune system cells of people not exposed to chlordane. (This provides an explanation for the increase in infections shown in the previous study.) In another immune system test conducted by the same scientists, eleven of twelve chlordane exposed people were found to have a condition known as autoimmunity. This is where the person's own immune system mistakenly attacks their own self, which the researchers stated can then result in a variety of other illnesses.








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Neuroblastoma & Leukemia After Chlordane Exposure
JOURNAL: Teratogenesis, Carcinogenesis, and Mutagenesis, 7:527-540 (1987)
Chlordane has also been linked to causing neuroblastoma and leukemia in children along with other blood abnormalities. Severe anemia and leukemia developed in a baby girl following home termite treatment. The case was settled in the California Superior Court (1975). Five cases of brain cancer were also reported to develop in children following prenatal or postnatal chlordane exposure.

A 1987 study at the School of Public Health, University of Illinois Medical Center, reported 25 new cases of various blood problems with the majority occurring following chlordane termite treatment. These included more examples of leukemias and anemias (8).

In a study reported by Velsicol (the manufacturer of chlordane), it was found that when monkeys were exposed for 90 days to air chlordane levels of 100 micrograms per cubic meter of air, they were more likely to develop a condition known as leukopenia (9), which means their disease fighting white blood cells dropped to a dangerously low number. Leukopenia often predisposes an individual to increased colds, flu, and infections. Levels of 250 micrograms per cubic meter of air chlordane have been reported in some chlordane treated homes, which is two and one-half times higher than the level causing leukopenia in the animals.

Chlordane exposure has also been linked to causing an increase in leukemias among agricultural workers. 1,084 death certificates of leukemia cases among Nebraska residents during the years 1957-1974 were matched with 2,168 deaths from other causes. These farmers exhibited a considerably higher risk of acute leukemia in counties where corn was grown in large quantities (10). Similarly, death certificates from Iowa for 1,675 white males over the age of 30 years who died of leukemia were investigated for possible causes of the cancer. Iowa farmers had a higher risk for lymphatic leukemia in counties where there was extensive production of corn and soy bean. There was also an association of death from leukemia with the amount of corn produced per acre. During the period of these studies, one of the major agricultural uses of chlordane was on corn crops.

JOURNAL TITLE: Leukemias and Blood Dyscrasias Following Exposure to Chlordane and Heptachlor

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Liver Damage Results from Chlordane Exposure
SOURCE: Science News, November 24, 1984.
The human liver appears to also be vulnerable to damage from exposure to chlordane. After a 48 year-old woman had her home treated for termites with chlordane, she developed symptoms of nausea, sore throat and chest discomfort. Her medical history showed no signs of previous health problems. Blood tests found low levels of chlordane in the woman's blood. Indoor air testing of the woman's home was then performed which found high airborne levels of heptachlor (a breakdown contaminant of chlordane).

Follow-up blood tests of the woman, conducted monthly, showed abnormal liver function indicators that "track exactly with the levels of pesticide in her blood," stated Dr. Alexander, who as a physician had been clinically involved in the case. Even though the levels of heptachlorepoxide (the form stored in the body) never exceeded 3 parts per billion in blood, Dr. Alexander stated, "We're now able to say that she has a mild chemical hepatitis-representing liver damage, caused by these pesticides.."

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Male and Female Infertility Increasing Past 50 Years
Evidence Chlordane Could Be Part of the Problem
Several biological problems affecting the male testicles have been occurring with greater frequency over the past 50 years. The summary of the problem, which appeared in the 1993 journal, Environmental Health Perspectives(13), discussed the observed rise in testicular cancer and the medical conditions hypospadias and cryptorchidism, as well as the apparent declining sperm count among the overall male population. Hypospadias is when the testicles do not descend and cryptorchidism is when the opening to the penis appears on the underside of the penis.

According to the researchers at the Statistical Research Unit, University of Copenhagen, Denmark, cancer of the male testicles has increased over 3-fold from 1940 to 1980. The frequency of hypospadias (the opening of the penis on the underside) in England has doubled from 0.15% in 1964 to 0.36% in 1983. Similar increases were also reported from Sweden and Hungary. Recent British data also detected a near doubling of cryptorchidism. This problem has risen from 1.6% of the boys born in the 1950's to 2.9% born in the late 1970's.

The researchers also performed a detailed survey of the international literature on sperm and semen levels published between 1930 and 1991. Compiling information from over 61 papers and 14,947 males, indicated a significant decline in average sperm density form 113 million per milliliter in 1940 to 66 million per milliliter in 1990. The mean semen volume also declined from 3.40 milliliters to 2.75 milliliters (a nearly 20% drop). This means that the total sperm count decreased even more than that expressed by sperm density.

These figures show that men are producing only about half as much sperm per ejaculation today as they did in the 1940's. This should generate concern as research has shown that as sperm count decreases, there is an increase in the risk of birth defects, miscarriages and general problems with the child. Therefore, these figures suggest that we should be observing a greater number of health and neurological problems among our children due to the connection between lower sperm count and lower sperm quality resulting from exposure of the male population to widespread environmental chemicals.

In conclusion the researchers stated,

"Recent data clearly indicate that the semen quality has markedly decreased during the period 1938-1990, and concomitantly the incidence of some genitourinary abnormalities including hypospadias, maldescent, and cancer has increased. Such a remarkable increment in the occurrence of gonadal abnormalities over a relatively short period of time is more likely to be due to environmental rather than genetic factors. Generally, it is believed that pollution, smoking, alcohol, and sexually transmitted diseases play a role."

Because of the widespread contamination of chlordane in American homes (the chemical emits vapors for decades after treatment) and its link with causing abnormalities in blood and childhood blood and brain cancer, Dr. David Ozonoff, of the Boston School of Public Health, stated there is an "urgent need for legislation creating a national program for monitoring homes known to have been treated to detect persistent contamination with these highly dangerous pesticides."

This persistent exposure to the U.S. population raises serious concerns regarding the effects of the chemical upon male and female fertility. Therefore, it is important to look at the research that addresses this issue.







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[*] posted on 3-22-2005 at 06:15 PM


before it was outlawed Chlordane was labeled for subsoil treatment only. never to be used on any part of a house exposed to air.

I hope this will stop at least some people from using it .it is not worth it give me the bugs any day over that.:no:




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[*] posted on 3-22-2005 at 07:21 PM
All Talk and no Facts.


Please furnish the names and Cities and Case of those socalled Deaths- Provable or jijust Scare Tatics>

he I am at 73 most of the time people think I am still in my50"s. Slep under my Chlordane treated Palapa for 18 years.

Where is the Beef?

If as suggested in those reports were true there would be 20 Thousand law Suits as the Asbestos thing.

No Proof as yet and I hope to live til I am 105

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every thang I have posted are facts, taken from the AMA website there are hundreds of other articles and I could not find one that was positive for the kind of use you are doing the point is if you are old and stubborn and cant read the label that is your business go ahead . what I take exception to is you advising other people to take chances with there lives and the lives of there Friends and family.
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Why Are We Concerned About Chlordane? I am not! Say...what are these dark soft spots in my throat?! Chlordane warnings? Hell....add up a few hundred thousand septic leach systems ....




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I did not advise anyone to use anything. I stated "How I used the Stuff" in my Palapa!

I know How to read and I know How to use those things and at the time I was not very "Old'.

I would think that you are too "Young" to know the difference in a goodly amount of BS put out by some Liberals/Enviors Nuts.


there have been many things taken off the Market because a bunch of Nuts gpt enough Power to force the Issue{Political]

The Stuff was used for years below the Ground for Sub-Terra Protection.
Where are the Millions of Lawsuits from the Thousands and Thousands of People who have been exposed.?

Yes I am Old but I am not so Old that I cannot tell the difference in an Envior Nut Posting of Scare tactics.

I bet you are Afraid to use a Cell Phone as you may get Radiated!!

Come on Bruce: Let each person read the label and make up their own Mind .

It is referred to as "Responsibility for your own Acts"

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[*] posted on 3-23-2005 at 09:10 AM


You know...we used this stuff too on our rental housing back in the late 60's. I am still alive and healthy. So far. Wait until the subject of Acetone comes up! Or how bout the micro dust from synthetic rubber tires we drive our cars on, laying about the road? My favorite is the fumes of gasoline...enriched with cancer starters. No. I am not an environmental nut, just pointing out that there are all sorts of material and chemicals that have negative properties I think you both are right if you think about it.

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I did not advise anyone to use anything. I stated "How I used the Stuff" in my Palapa!

I know How to read and I know How to use those things and at the time I was not very "Old'.

I would think that you are too "Young" to know the difference in a goodly amount of BS put out by some Liberals/Enviors Nuts.


there have been many things taken off the Market because a bunch of Nuts gpt enough Power to force the Issue{Political]

The Stuff was used for years below the Ground for Sub-Terra Protection.
Where are the Millions of Lawsuits from the Thousands and Thousands of People who have been exposed.?

Yes I am Old but I am not so Old that I cannot tell the difference in an Envior Nut Posting of Scare tactics.

I bet you are Afraid to use a Cell Phone as you may get Radiated!!

Come on Bruce: Let each person read the label and make up their own Mind .

It is referred to as "Responsibility for your own Acts"

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[*] posted on 3-23-2005 at 09:12 AM
Anonymous was me!


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You know...we used this stuff too on our rental housing back in the late 60's. I am still alive and healthy. So far. Wait until the subject of Acetone comes up! Or how bout the micro dust from synthetic rubber tires we drive our cars on, laying about the road? My favorite is the fumes of gasoline...enriched with cancer starters. No. I am not an environmental nut, just pointing out that there are all sorts of material and chemicals that have negative properties I think you both are right if you think about it.

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I did not advise anyone to use anything. I stated "How I used the Stuff" in my Palapa!

I know How to read and I know How to use those things and at the time I was not very "Old'.

I would think that you are too "Young" to know the difference in a goodly amount of BS put out by some Liberals/Enviors Nuts.


there have been many things taken off the Market because a bunch of Nuts gpt enough Power to force the Issue{Political]

The Stuff was used for years below the Ground for Sub-Terra Protection.
Where are the Millions of Lawsuits from the Thousands and Thousands of People who have been exposed.?

Yes I am Old but I am not so Old that I cannot tell the difference in an Envior Nut Posting of Scare tactics.

I bet you are Afraid to use a Cell Phone as you may get Radiated!!

Come on Bruce: Let each person read the label and make up their own Mind .

It is referred to as "Responsibility for your own Acts"

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Thank you to all who have replied to my original post. I have learned a lot about construction methods in Baja, i have also learned a lot about colordane(sp?) and a lot of other interesting but relatively diverse (if not irrelevant) issues, none of which i do not appretiate, but a lot of which has nothing to do with my original query. So now that everyone has aired out their respective positions, is there someone here who can give me information about the per square footage cost of concrete block structures or bale structures, palapa structures or any combination of these. Im talking a 1200 sq ft dwelling with an outdoor living/cooking space and the typical amenities i.e. cooking stove, power, refridgeration etc. I understand there are many variables but i seem to get a lot of advice but a lot of "non" answers as well, not that i do not appretiate any and all input. I want to build a dwelling about 1200 sq ft with a bedroom and a bathroom/shower, with an outdoor kitchen and living area, with septic, solar or whatever and need concrete input on the guesstimated cost. Again i offer my thanks for the responses in the past and thanks in advance for what you may be willing to share with me now. Saludos.. jim
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that is what makes this forum so much fun you git your questions answered and a Lot moor. we all love Baja or we wouldn't be here. you will git accustomed to it and enjoy like the rest of us. Skeet Loreto is a Nice man we just disagree on the pesticide thing he writs some really good posts on this forum and I hope I git a chance to meet both of you some day. don't give up, hang in there. good luck on your project.



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Welcome to the Brady Bunch Show! You learned more about people than houses, didn?t you! Here?s a draft of my La Casa I plan to do at Campo Ocotillo. The main living area will be about 1300 sq feet. I plan to construct this as an early 1900s style adobe. No thrills. It?s at about 25k. I am doing a lot of the construction with hired Mexican help. All materials will be bought locally. If you wish to see the final detail prints on this, email me sometime next month.



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thank you, the house design looks great and i would like to learn more about your project. Thanks to everyont that have responded. Its all good! .... jim
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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 08:50 AM


Oh thanks Pompano! Now I'll have to call it the Nipple House! As soon as you said what it looked like, I saw it too. Perhaps I wasnt thinking housing as I was drawing:lol:



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Yatchmerchant-
Here's a photo of one reason we don't put palapa over our main living quarters. But the main reason is the huge amount of dirt that filters through the leaves in our windy/dusty location. Neither is something I want to find in my bed every night.
Your location is a variable in your construcion cost. We have to add another 30% to the cost of materials for our location to cover the delivery. We're outside of any big towns and have 30 mile of bad dirt road and the truck drivers have gotten wise. Our ballpark construction cost is $35 dollars/s.f. for "Obra Negra" which means building shell only. No fixtures or finish work. This is for block with foam/cement roof and does not include the "pasta" coat (final stucco finish which can add a few more thousand), underground water storage out of block and cement, septic, solar system and water pumping, vinyl windows, property walls and fences. Tallying up all of this stuff is an ongoing process.
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Latitude,
This is good stuff and i thank you for the response. What do you think the finished cost will be for you? Where we are there is good hard road access and utilities are onsite. I understand what you are saying about the palapa over the main structure. our rough draft of the Casa call for a two bedroom, one bath stucco/adobe structure with a palapa structure enclosing an outdoor kitchen and living area. Are we going wrong with the outdoor kitchen? This is a basic set up, stove, fridge,sink and some workable counter/bar space. This would need to have an enclosure for those times when an enclosure is essential. Do you have reccommendations for the enclosere? we were thinking of a short wall with a palapa roof that could be enclosed with some type of screening. What say you? I truely appretiate all of your help! Saludos! .. jim
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[*] posted on 3-26-2005 at 08:49 PM
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My house has an outdoor kitchen along with indoor we built the oudoor for summer cooking, as it turns out it was alway to windy to use the burners we do use the oven. We have friends that have a totally outdoor kitchen they had to build a wall to be able to use the stove. It gets cold even in the Baja to go to an outside kitchen in the morning to make coffee and breakfast.



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[*] posted on 3-27-2005 at 07:05 PM
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I agree with Comitan. I'd put the stove, fridge, dishes and food storage inside where they can be sealed up more effectively (from dirt and the everpresent ants). But then, I've got a thing about ants. Tarantulas and scorpions I can live with but I really hate ants in my food!

As Comitan also mentioned, there are times that you don't want to deal with the elements when dining so I'd also have a small eating counter or bar indoors. Then you can make a spacious outdoor BBQing and dining area outdoors without screens.

Another tip is you can't have enough shaded areas. This is where we enjoy the palapa. Be generous with the shaded areas off of your house, garage etc, and you'll maximize the use of your property.
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"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







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