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David K
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Yah, I could tell from the sidewall tread pattern, but I wanted you to confirm... I wonder what those 3 plys are made of ? 
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I wonder what those 3 plys are made of ? |
90% post-consumer waste???
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Roberto
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What I would wonder is why there are some folks who drive, and have been driving, to Baja and other places for years with little to no problems, and
others seem to tear them tires up?
Could "driver error" be a factor? 
By the way, the only BFG tires with three-ply sidewalls are the All-Terrain and Mud-Terrain. The Baja T/A has four, as does the Krawler. The others
are two-ply, at most.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Could "driver error" be a factor?
By the way, the only BFG tires with three-ply sidewalls are the All-Terrain and Mud-Terrain. The Baja T/A has four, as does the Krawler. The others
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My Super Swamper/Interco TrXus MT tires are 2 plys, and I have not had a single problem out of this brand in the 80,000 miles that I have run them.
When you're the guy leading the events, your stuff can't break down...
Damage incurred on Old Dale Road w/in Joshua Tree Np:
Baja Grande Nov.'07 This happened en route to Gonzaga Bay along the shoreline:
An OEM tire let go while in Copper Canyon Jan. '07:
[img]http://www.justruns.com/gallery2/d/6529-2/Search+for+tire+for+Bill.jpg[/img]
Victor Chacon switched from BFGs to Mickey Thompson Baja MTZs. He didn't suffer a blown sidewall, but on obstacles like this one in Baja, he doesn't
like to take chances. Baja Pole Line Road (Night Run) 12/06:
Chris Glass went from Pro Comp X-Terrains to Maxxis Creepy Crawlers to now Super Swamper IROKs. This is Chris' rig on the Baja Pole Line Road:
This is Chris in Rosarito Beach at a 4WD event held there last year:
[img]http://www.justruns.com/gallery2/d/8516-1/drop+in.jpg[/img]
Here's Chris gettin' some love. He was an event official, and he judged the dancers!!   
[img]http://www.justruns.com/gallery2/d/8524-1/Model+1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.justruns.com/gallery2/d/8506-1/Chris_+modelo+girls.JPG[/img]
Chris then moved to Goodyear MT/Rs (37") as shown here in Jacume (outside of Tecate, BC, Mex.):
Here's Chris' rig out in Mexicali running the big 40" Super Swamper IROKs on 20" rims:
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David K
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I was riding in Amo Pescar's truck when the NEW All Terrain T/A had the sidewall blow out... and we were not rock crawling or under inflated... I
don't hate BFG, I have owned them and have friends own them, but I think when people flock to one brand thinking it's 'the best' solely from high
sales or advertising they should here the 'dark side' as well...
Hotschott loves his, Baja Angel had them on her CJ-5, etc. etc. I appreciate BFG sponsoring Score and helping Sal mark the race courses... Ken had
personal experience with them also and has found better, cheaper tires...
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Ken had personal experience with them also and has found better, cheaper tires... |
The TrXus MT doesn't ride as smoothly as the BFG All-Terrain, it costs roughly the same price, and it is not engineered as well as the BFG or the
Goodyear tires, but it is durable, and wears more evently than the MT/R. That's why I am sold on the Interco tire.
...it works well in the sand, but doesn't like the mud very much...
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BAJACAT
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MATOMI'S REVENGE
Well guys my firts flat in Baja.this happend about a mile from reaching Matomi Ranch.I check my tires and my sidewalls just had it, to many miles in
Baja, the 3 left are coming off.
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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Wow Jose, that Matomi road sure did that one in! What kind of tire was it? I know that road is a very slow going section, so you couldn't have been
racing!
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BAJACAT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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David I was riding on BFG'S RUGGED TRAIL'S,it happen in a good section don't know what happen.On this trip we had a total of 5 flats and Suzuky
Samuray tranny stuck in neutral,it had to be tow.
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Wow Jose, that Matomi road sure did that one in! What kind of tire was it? I know that road is a very slow going section, so you couldn't have been
racing! |
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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You will naturally be upgrading to 'good' tires soon???
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I appreciate BFG sponsoring Score and helping Sal mark the race courses... |
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Roberto
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From the damage, it looks like Jose drove a little after the flat. All the bouncing may have prevented him from noticing it.
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BooJumMan
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haha. That is a great picture. 
Looks like something that would happen in Pismo dunes. Although its an Arizona plate.
Also, that Ford Explorer is really nice. Coilovers on a solid front axle.... NICE!!
This is my 4runner, with MTRs. They are a solid tire... not as aggressive as a true MT but much more dig to them than an AT. However with very thick
side walls. Ken, you seem like a big time off-road guy. Any of your buddies run the Interco Irok's ?
[Edited on 2-19-2008 by BooJumMan]
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
Well guys my firts flat in Baja.this happend about a mile from reaching Matomi Ranch.I check my tires and my sidewalls just had it, to many miles in
Baja, the 3 left are coming off. |
Here's my guess.
We had just crossed a rocky wash and there was a little climb out of it. Jose has open diffs and that would be the drive wheel on the right rear. He
was aired down to 15psi and probably spun his tires a little and took out the side wall. 300 yards from there down the trail which was rocky and hard
and thats what it looked like. He made it to the ranch and all the way back down Matomi on a street tread radial on the same corner, and with beer in
hand the whole way. Then he drove home that night! What a stud!
I had a puncture on my MTRs, left front inside tread at sidewall, going down slow. Felt it and stopped and changed it out before it was flat. Thanks
all of you who helped with the swap in my post operative condition. A 1/4" slice, looks like a small exacto knife pushed straight through. Stopped
on way out of town for fish tacos across from Baja 1000 tire repair and had it patched. If it won't hold its done. They do a great vulcanized side
wall patch there with patches up to 3" for a side wall cut to 1.5" or so. Repaired tire makes for a great spare in time of need.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
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David K
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15 psi? Wow, that low is deep sand driving! Glad everyone got out okay... 2001 and 2004 we had no flats...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I appreciate BFG sponsoring Score and helping Sal mark the race courses... |
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I know the hummer is 4wd but didn't realize that it has 3 rear ends
[Edited on 2-19-2008 by durrelllrobert] |
Those might be the only good reasons for owning a Hummer.
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bajalou
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After gadget and squarecircle headed to the LLano San Fermin, I brushed a rock with the right rear, slight nick in the rim and about 1" cut in the
tire. I was running about 20lbs.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BooJumMan Ken, you seem like a big time off-road guy. Any of your buddies run the Interco Irok's ?
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I'm lucky to call my buddy Chris a real good friend. The guy is super cool, lives in Tijuana, and has a beast of an Explorer that he 'wheels
regularly. He now runs IROKs on his Ford Explorer. 40's!!
Here's the proof:
Running small(er) 37s on the street in Tijuana with his family on board:
Running the big(ger) 40s on the trail FULL-TIME:
[Edited on 2-20-2008 by Ken Cooke]
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pappy
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best rear view of a hummer i've ever seen! i wonder how much that option was? just topped the grade out of tj, making the turn to head down towards
the hwy, when a dog ran in front of us. my buddy pulled to avoid dog. hit curb, blam! scratch one bfg mt. later, coming out of the central coast area,
another bwam! scratch (well almost) number 2 bfg mt. took eleven plugs in sidewall to get us up and running. got home and replaced the bfg's .so much
for their three ply sidewall.
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BAJACAT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
Well guys my firts flat in Baja.this happend about a mile from reaching Matomi Ranch.I check my tires and my sidewalls just had it, to many miles in
Baja, the 3 left are coming off. |
Here's my guess.
We had just crossed a rocky wash and there was a little climb out of it. Jose has open diffs and that would be the drive wheel on the right rear. He
was aired down to 15psi and probably spun his tires a little and took out the side wall. 300 yards from there down the trail which was rocky and hard
and thats what it looked like. He made it to the ranch and all the way back down Matomi on a street tread radial on the same corner, and with beer in
hand the whole way. Then he drove home that night! What a stud!
I had a puncture on my MTRs, left front inside tread at sidewall, going down slow. Felt it and stopped and changed it out before it was flat. Thanks
all of you who helped with the swap in my post operative condition. A 1/4" slice, looks like a small exacto knife pushed straight through. Stopped
on way out of town for fish tacos across from Baja 1000 tire repair and had it patched. If it won't hold its done. They do a great vulcanized side
wall patch there with patches up to 3" for a side wall cut to 1.5" or so. Repaired tire makes for a great spare in time of need.
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I agree with Will, I had a hard time making that hard left from the arroyo,the rear right had to climb over
the rock and I neede it the speed to get over.later a few feet away, I was doing about 25 mph,and feelt a lound noise in the rear look at my mirror
and saw the tire desintegrated .Everybody help , specially Roy(The Squarecircle).anotherf think that I found out,my hilift jack was worthless in this
operation,didn't lift the truck high enoughf,I had to used Will's Jack,a $20 costumise by him.
[Edited on 2-20-2008 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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