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Rocks in the beans guy: it is actually good news.
When cases were going through the absolute roof in December, the smart ppl noticed the latest variant wasn't nearly as deadly or threatening.
In early Jan, lots of us called the end of the US peak in Feb. Because of the fact that so many ppl got it so fast and most recovered very quickly.
Meanwhile the bulk of the MSM was in ultimate scare mode in Dec/Jan (cases, cases, oh my). Stop listening to those ppl.
My god, the 85 yo Queen got it and had cold like symptoms for a couple days.
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Quote: Originally posted by lencho  |
Depends. Positivity is not necessarily negative (I said that, <giggle> ), if it increases community immunity without
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Best comment you have made on the board in a few months.
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Have to admit it felt great to go out shopping today and see everyone smiling again. Last couple years I felt like I was surrounded by a bunch of
grumpy bandits.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Have to admit it felt great to go out shopping today and see everyone smiling again. Last couple years I felt like I was surrounded by a bunch of
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Very happy for you JD.
You have been a blessing for this Baja forum. A voice of reason.
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Covid is soaring in China because those idiots had a zero Covid policy and their vaccines are sh#t.
[Edited on 3-17-2022 by JZ]
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Things will never return to normal. There will always be ppl wearing masks. Immune deficient, elderly, those who believe masks are useful
preventive measures.
The new normal is here. Stop believing everything you read JZ. Does anyone believe what you write here? I don't. Two years of wishing
normal would reappear. Keep dreaming. Troll.
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JZ
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Things will never return to normal. There will always be ppl wearing masks. Immune deficient, elderly, those who believe masks are useful
preventive measures.
The new normal is here. Stop believing everything you read JZ. Does anyone believe what you write here? I don't. Two years of wishing
normal would reappear. Keep dreaming. Troll.
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I said signs of normalcy. Why wouldn't you root for that?
It's getting better and it's gonna be OK Lee.
[Edited on 3-17-2022 by JZ]
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| Quote: Originally posted by sunnybern | | Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Things will never return to normal. There will always be ppl wearing masks. Immune deficient, elderly, those who believe masks are useful
preventive measures.
The new normal is here. Stop believing everything you read JZ. Does anyone believe what you write here? I don't. Two years of wishing
normal would reappear. Keep dreaming. Troll.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you for speaking for most members of this forum Lee!
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I couldn't agree more.
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Cases in La Paz and BCS overall drop by another third in a week.
https://coronavirus.bcs.gob.mx/english/
New normal right around the corner there too. Yes a whole lot of people will continue to wear masks. We saw this commonly with Chinese Asians coming
over here for a couple years before Covid hit. I will continue to appreciate breathing in fresh air as a healthful activity whenever allowed.
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Some people have always worn masks, in some countries it's common, that doesn't prove it's a good idea for either the mask wearer or others, there is
ample evidence it's a very bad idea for human health to wear a mask that collects moisture and bacteria in the nose, mouth area and reduces fresh air.
Here are meta studies that review large numbers of studies, showing no benefit from masks, yet they do significant harm.
There is no evidence is airborne transmission of infection in real world situations, never has been shown, but, if people chose to wear face masks its
a personal choice, so, let individuals choose as they may. Today driving through remote San Pedro, Pescadero and Todos Santos, I saw many people
inside cars alone wearing masks, but no one inside restaurants, bars, hotels, or at beaches, etc.
Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and
meta-analysis
https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567
Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/65/11/1934/4068747
Mask mandate and use efficacy in state-level COVID-19 containment
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v...
Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: a systematic review
https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c...
Face masks to prevent community transmission of viral respiratory infections: A rapid evidence review using Bayesian analysis
https://www.qeios.com/read/1SC5L4
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659...
Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers : A Randomized
Controlled Trial
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33205991/
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
There is no evidence is airborne transmission of infection in real world situations, never has been shown
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Paul, you are so wrong.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
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| Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Some people have always worn masks, in some countries it's common, that doesn't prove it's a good idea for either the mask wearer or others, there is
ample evidence it's a very bad idea for human health to wear a mask that collects moisture and bacteria in the nose, mouth area and reduces fresh air.
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Japan has been wearing masks 100 years. They believe the Hong Kong Flu was controlled by masks. Since long term use, no ill effects have been
published.
A neighbor told me his dentist said mask wearing harms teeth and he (my neighbor) believed this nonsense. No proof, just opinion.
Your opinions have been outrageous on this subject for 2 years Paul. Chill Bro. It'll all work out.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid | Some people have always worn masks, in some countries it's common, that doesn't prove it's a good idea for either the mask wearer or others, there is
ample evidence it's a very bad idea for human health to wear a mask that collects moisture and bacteria in the nose, mouth area and reduces fresh air.
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Japan has been wearing masks 100 years. They believe the Hong Kong Flu was controlled by masks. Since long term use, no ill effects have been
published.
A neighbor told me his dentist said mask wearing harms teeth and he (my neighbor) believed this nonsense. No proof, just opinion.
Your opinions have been outrageous on this subject for 2 years Paul. Chill Bro. It'll all work out. |
Read the studies, make up your own mind.
I provided sourced meta studies covering hundreds of peer reviewed studies demonstrating that face mask do not reduce influenza or respiratory illness
and do cause harm.
The results of the studies are not my personal opinion.
It's an interesting topic, there is no demonstrable evidence of influenza or respiratory illness as a person to person or animal to animal airborne
contagion.
People do get colds, flu and respiratory illness, possibly from toxins in their environment, but not from interacting with each other, apparently.
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c...
| Quote: | | There is some evidence to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing
during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission. There are fewer data to support the use of masks or respirators to prevent becoming
infected. Further studies in controlled settings and studies of natural infections in healthcare and community settings are required to better define
the effectiveness of face masks and respirators in preventing influenza virus transmission. |
In other words, you might be wearing a mask to protect other people.
Some other data from cdc.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm
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[Edited on 3-19-2022 by Purdyd]
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Meanwhile, on the other side of the Pond
The BBC website posted this article about how different countries are approaching the prospect of a post-pandemic world.
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Thanks PaulDavid, that was certainly an interesting article. It seems the countries that were thought to have avoided the virus altogether have
suddenly been swept up in it to a massive degree (no naturally acquired immunity?). I guess the fortunate part is they had high vaccination rates and
are facing the Omicron variant rather than the much more deadly earlier strains.
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Here's a shocker. The CDC lied to us. They just admitted they over reported Covid deaths by 74K. And they inflated the death of children by a
whooping 24%.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...
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The medical journals should be notified.
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How do they manage to overestimate by 24%? This had big ramifications for kids.
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Blame the former Disaster in Chief. Tell me again who's running this CLUSTER F*CK?
Sure a lot of whiny babies here. Blame it on Gen X. Are they still lost?
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