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JDCanuck
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JZ: I beg to differ on the expense of solar and wind fields. Utilities and their investors are increasingly putting them in not to gain Liberal
praise, but because they are far cheaper even with grid and battery costs than the alternatives like Nuclear, coal and gas.
The funny part is...the politicians are taking credit on sweeping financially based changes in power generation begun 4 decades ago and increasingly
accelerating.
Here's a good table displaying the progress that's been made recently by various countries up til 2022, and the US does not rank badly compared to all
others. Sierra Leone and Denmark are the most impressive:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/carbon-intensity-electric...
[Edited on 6-29-2023 by JDCanuck]
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surabi
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
That seems to be the issue with solar reluctance in Mexico. Small electrical loads cost very little for most and the additional cost of solar is
seldom viable over a short term.
[Edited on 6-29-2023 by JDCanuck] |
I guess it depends on what you consider short or long term. For instance, my 200 peso CFE bills over the course of 30 years, which I would consider to
be long term, would only amount to less than about $2000US.
Installing solar costs more than that, especially if you are retrofitting it rather than installing as part of the original build.
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JDCanuck
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I guess it depends on what you consider short or long term. For instance, my 200 peso CFE bills over the course of 30 years, which I would consider to
be long term, would only amount to less than about $2000US.
Installing solar costs more than that, especially if you are retrofitting it rather than installing as part of the original build.
I agree, hopefully CFE continues to subsidize low energy users as they convert to non carbon power sources as much as they have on their present
carbon dependent sources. Retrofitting is far out of the reach of most native Mexicans, while it is easily within the reach of the highest power users
that supply the excess funds for the subsidies. Mexico has a unique opportunity in solar and wind alternatives and they seem to finally be grasping
it.
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surabi
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Here's an interesting story. My Mexican son-in-law is from a village on the mainland that up until about 20 or so years ago, was not serviced by CFE-
they had no electric there. So the govt. had given the residents solar panels.
Then CFE brought in electrical lines. My daughter and son-in-law got a bunch of solar panels for free to use at their place in Baja from his rellies
in the village because they were no longer using them.
When some friends of mine heard about that, they drove up to that village to see if they could also score some. Within half an hour of arriving and
making it known what they were looking for, lots of locals showed up with solar panels, which my friends bought dirt cheap.
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JZ
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Welp, no power in Nebraska for a while.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/06/27/baseball-sized-hail-...
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SFandH
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Yup, nature. Sort of like when the tidal wave wiped out the Japanese nuclear plant.
Or when the winter weather crippled the Texas power grid.
Or......
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JDCanuck
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It seems the suppliers of the panels overstated their hail resistance. According to the others in the state that had excessive damage to other
equipment but their panels survived several heavy hail storms, having been previously tested with baseballs fired out of cannons and even had vehicles
driven over them.
"Jason Bloomberg, a Cheyenne physician and proponent of renewable energy, said the solar panels on his property have had plenty of hail impacts over
the years, and they’ve been fine. Hail has damaged other parts of his property, he said, but not the panels.
The company that sold him the panels demonstrated their ability to resist hail damage by firing baseballs at it with a baseball cannon. They also
drove a pickup over them.
“They’re very durable,” he said.
Bloomberg suspects that high winds drove large hailstones into the Scottsbluff panels, which exceeded their hail resistance limits"
2023 Baja storm season is still ahead, having been surprisingly light so far this year. Time to check the stability of your system still.
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Don Pisto
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Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
Yup, nature. Sort of like when the tidal wave wiped out the Japanese nuclear plant.
Or when the winter weather crippled the Texas power grid.
Or......
[Edited on 6-30-2023 by SFandH] |
wonder what your car must look like!
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surabi
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The term global warming was exchanged for climate change because of dummies who don't bother to educate themselves on the science- that it will get
colder in some places and warmer in others, that it causes extreme weather events and disasters, and affects every living thing on the planet, But it
didn't do any good- the dummies still don't get it.
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JZ
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It was changed to Climate Change to be ambiguous, as they got called out for being wrong on a 100 more specific predictions over 60 years. So a
genius solved that annoying problem: Let's just be vague and carry-on.
Trying to change language is a top play of dishonest people. They try to redefine bad ideas with clever terminology.
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Glidergeek
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How's that palm tree doing?
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JZ
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First the came for our gas stoves, now they are coming for our fireworks? You guessed it, some cities are substituting drone shows for fireworks to
help with the "Climate Crisis." Where does it end?
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SFandH
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World registers hottest day ever recorded
"Unfortunately, it promises to only be the first in a series of new records set this year as increasing emissions of [carbon dioxide] and greenhouse
gases coupled with a growing El Nino event push temperatures to new highs,"
https://news.yahoo.com/world-registers-hottest-day-ever-1550...
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A "super" El Nino is predicted for the next year. It's gonna be stormy.
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Don Pisto
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well that record has already been broken.......hang on!
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RFClark
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OK, China, Russia and Iran emit about 65% of the CO2. The US is about 25%.
What is the plan to get them onboard so we’re not the only ones doing the heavy lifting? China, also makes most of the fireworks.
Mexico also makes lots of fireworks. Pemex and CFE are major polluters as well.
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | OK, China, Russia and Iran emit about 65% of the CO2. The US is about 25%.
What is the plan to get them onboard so we’re not the only ones doing the heavy lifting? China, also makes most of the fireworks.
Mexico also makes lots of fireworks. Pemex and CFE are major polluters as well. |
Yup, every country pollutes.
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Don Pisto
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | OK, China, Russia and Iran emit about 65% of the CO2. The US is about 25%.
What is the plan to get them onboard so we’re not the only ones doing the heavy lifting? China, also makes most of the fireworks.
Mexico also makes lots of fireworks. Pemex and CFE are major polluters as well. |
lets go out on a limb here and suggest metal box guy meant "India" not "Iran"?
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pacificobob
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Metal box.... that's funny.
Whenever i enter my closet and see the shoe boxes stacked within, I'm reminded of that construction style.
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JZ
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You hippies sold your souls to the man.
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surabi
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Better gather up all your toys and batten the hatches and lockdown, JZ before "they" come to take it all away.
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