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[*] posted on 6-23-2005 at 11:59 PM
Forum societal and cultural ramifications


Some think that by engaging others philosophically that it does not warrant the time to read it or believe it. Especially when the dialog is in cyber-space. A deep subject indeed. AS a stimulace for debate on current subjects we enable each other to espouse their/our wisdom. And then we play.
Does the dialog cross cultural borders and barriers? Are we unwittingly adding pious and prejudice or is it the other way around.
We can ask ourselves and others questions not easily approached or answered in everyday verbal America here on the forum.
Does this shorten the societal and cultural distances.
Do you feel more or less welcome in Mexico because of all we say.
Do you feel more or less inclusive.
Does this forum enlighten your attitude about Baja.
Are you more or less comfortable with authority figures in Mexico now that you've heard so much.
Can you or do you envision the people and their society any different now as an informed Nomad.

If you answered any of these, any way, than it has affected your attitude. Thanks to a common thread we all share, companionship, we do postulate and we do react.

The best part being every response is unique and has the posters personality behind it.

Have they changed your mind?
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 07:50 AM
Nope


I still think that there are just as many P-nche gringos who come down here and make asses of themselves on a regular basis!:lol:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:10 PM
dang it JR


I was hoping to find out if the pincies learned anythang new from you.:D
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:14 PM


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I was hoping to find out if the pincies learned anythang new from you.:D


Shark, please, please watch your language! Kids read this forum too.;D




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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:31 PM
There is one or two things that can be learned from these type Forums,


Profanity;
Who likes Porn
Who likes to Smoke dope
Who is Hateful


But the most important thng we learn is that Baja is our love no matter How many different people go there, we learn How diferent we are in our reactions to Baja, we learn the Beauty and the Ugly, but most of us Learn.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:36 PM


but do we learn tolerance and patience?
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:42 PM
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I could give you a list a mile long on the things I learned about myseld and the Mexicano People while living in Loreto, but Sir I am concerned that the Youngins of Today would not in any way understand "What I am talking about".
The main thing would be "compassion"
Nex,t How to be Happy while being Dirt Poor.
What it means when a "Person speaks for another and what is expected in Return"


Question: Can anyone on this Board define the Statement about One person Speaking for another?
Also Example.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:47 PM


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but do we learn tolerance and patience?


It just cost us 950 pesos to register our oldest daughter in kinder garden. Plus the cost of uniforms. Not a major expense for us but imagine being a single mom with several kids. Education can be quite costly if you have three or four kids (not uncommon) and your making 700 pesos a week.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:49 PM
That depends


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Question: Can anyone on this Board define the Statement about One person Speaking for another?

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on if we are talking about the "me" on the forum or the "me" in real person. Cause it seems sometimes as if I am defending someone else here, maybe my alter ego. :lol:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 12:55 PM
gringos


well i thought gringos were the only ones who came down here and made asses of themselves (as JR put it) until easter. when the mexicans from the mainland come over to vacation. i have never seen so many inconsiderate, rude people since leaving the states (and i know i am going to get this so i will say now yes, i know its there country). But quads going by my house all hours of the day and nite at 60 mph, leaving garbage everywhere, drunk & loud. when i aksed them to slow down on the road they responded by going faster. miles of places to ride and they went up and down the road all the entire week. so its not just the gringos, you dont have to be a certain nationality to be a jerk. were they all like that, no ! just the ones i encountered.



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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:02 PM
Why can't we all just get along?


because we are all different.
But, just because we don't agree, and we argue, sometimes even heated!, I think that we all do some MAJOR learning on here about many things as Skeet says. Including humanity.
I think many on here would be surprised at the number of people I have argued with (almost everybody!) on here that have become friends after meeting in person.
That's because I don't find politics, dead seas, gringo enclaves and who lives in them, drunken arrogant P-nches, egotism and all the other do do that we argue about more important than humanity itself.
And that's at least what we should all at least try to be. No better and no worse than any other humans on the planet! Even if they do happen to be republicans!:P
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:06 PM
I said P-nche Gringos Marv


and for the intelligence impaired, that doesn't mean all gringos!:saint:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:13 PM
intelligence impaired


that was good ! i could probably qualify for that catigory. by the way JR without offending you (i hope) i found you an avatar.



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lol.gif posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:17 PM
Hahahahaha


Maybe a while back Marv but something in the grumpy grandma dept. would be a little more accurate at this time.:no:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:37 PM


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Originally posted by jrbajaThat's because I don't find politics, dead seas, gringo enclaves and who lives in them, drunken arrogant p-nches, egotism and all the other do do that we argue about more important than humanity itself.
And that's at least what we should all at least try to be.
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Bravo JR. I am glad you delineated between debate and pure hatred. I am afraid that a few would not understand the relevance of partaking without malice intent. It seems some only reply as such. Some can't see through the smoke and fire so they just point their nozzle and fire blindly.
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:43 PM
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I mean in the Mesicano culture. What does it mean when One Mesicano Speaks for another; It is a common thing, happens all the time.

Muelg Marv. I have witnesses the same thing at ensenada blanc on several different Week ends including Easter.

The people from Villa constitution come over and take over the Beach for a Weeks Party, they make more money so they can buymore Toys.

Tolorance;/In tolorant?
I was intolorant when I was surrounded by about 15 large Sharks while trying to catch Yellowfin tuna 35 miles out in the Sea Of cortez. When they started bumping the Panga I proceeded to Bop them on the head. Intolorant.

Tolorance-- when I have to explain to people that I find the word "Gringo" offense.
when I have to explain to people that "Profanity is ignorance Made Audiable".

I appreciate the Tolorant People on this board who forgive me for my bad spelling, even the Intolorant who do not forgive me.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 01:56 PM
Intolerance


WTF is a Mesicano? Skeet, I hope that's your spelling (or lack of) problem!:mad:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:06 PM
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"I mean in the Mesicano culture. What does it mean when One Mesicano Speaks for another; It is a common thing, happens all the time."

There's a couple brothers who work with me down south. One of them (once doce) now has a cell phone. They met some girls at a dance in Los Barriles and Louis, (the shy one) gave one of the girls the phone number.

The girl called and thinking it was Louis started talking "stuff". Apparently she really liked him.

Now, 11 - 12 being the kind considerate brother took full advantage of this opportunity to show this girl how outgoing Louis really is. (Not!):lol:

So, this was going on on a daily basis and this girl is really getting to like Louis. 11-12 and I are absolutely loving this spectacular opportunity.:lol::lol::lol:

Unfortunately for you guys, and me, I had to make an unplanned journey to the north before Louis and the girl met again so this story is "to be continued".

But, I see what you mean Skeet!:bounce::lol:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:38 PM
"11 - 12 being the kind considerate brother..."


Is the lads name 11-12, and is he so named because of his Baja time schedule? I AM SPEAKING FOR THE OTHER GUY:lol:
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[*] posted on 6-24-2005 at 02:45 PM


The internet is a funny thing. People can slander others, steal from them, and still come off as "the good guy". Meanwhile, those that fight back, make valid points to explose those that do such things for what they are, can be widely construed as "full of Hate".

With that in mind, how the el could anybody consider what goes on here anything more that mental self gratification.:lol::lol:

As probably the only original poster, 1994, from amigos de baja who still follows what goes on here on the web, I say, don't worry about what others say or do here too much, everything changes face to face.

Yes, Mike H and Zac. I posted on amigos a year before there was ever a general discussion. It started out as just a fishing site. FYI
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