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TOILET PAPER
What is the deal with TP in Baja ? Why can you not just flush it ? I know it will take awhile to get used to putting TP in a garbage can by the toilet
- at this point I am just trying to adjust - but it is really gross !!! Maybe if I knew the reason I could adapt more easily !!!!
  
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jrbaja
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Smaller drain lines
not as much pressure, and mostly, it takes up too much room in the fosas. (holding tanks)
Personally, I use a metal can and burn it.
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bajajudy
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Just remember the rule....brown side down!
Is this related to JR's poem?
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rpleger
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One of the good things about living in Baja.
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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elizabeth
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Do you think this is part of the sales pitch at Loreto Bay?
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pokey
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We flush ours. Always have always will.
Tp in the can is practiced troughout every hispanic country I've been to. Personally I think it's just a custom that has always been practiced and
nobody has thought to do any different. I could be wrong but I've never had the toilet backup or any other negative consequences from flushing tp
down the drain.
Keep Mexico weird
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jrbaja
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Sorry Pokey
But that's like those who come down occasionally and brag about never having had a flat tire.
You have been lucky! Or your flushes are going right into the ocean rather than a fosa.
Your plan for the new house for flushing this treasure is?
[Edited on 7/24/2005 by jrbaja]
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pokey
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Septic tank but all other grey water will be used to irrigate the crops. I like to grow my own
The toilets in the house that we are living in are connected to 2" abs pipe that feeds into 8" pipe that I assume goes straight to the sewer. I'm
no plumber but it seems like these pipes are sufficient enough to carry turd and tp to the mainline. It's worked just fine so far.....
Keep Mexico weird
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Bruce R Leech
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If you have a proper septic system and your sewer pipes have been installed properly it is OK to flush it down. the biggest problem in Mexico is they
don't know how to install ether of these. they think the more angel you get on the pipes the better it will drain. but in fact to much angle clauses a
lot of problems in that the liquids run away from the solids and start plugging the pipe right away. I don't recall the exact amount but it is
something like 2 inches of fall in 20 feet of ling th or something like that. also any dips or rises in the line will cause problems. I use a laser
level when I am doing this kind of work. also any buried line must be back filed with crushed rock to eliminate settling.
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bajajudy
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Once you have your very own septic tank you will be pickier about how you treat your sewage or you will get to know it better than you will want to.
You have to be very careful what you put down not only your toilet but also the drains in your sinks. No more pouring those bacon drippings down the
kitchen sink. You should also watch your use of Fabulosa, Lysol etc and bleach. Everything goes just fine in that little tank of horrors as long as
only bodily function kind of stuff goes in there.
I am sure that there is a wealth of information on the internet but I have followed these rules and never had a problem. We have a 3 chamber fosa and
as of the last time someone(else) checked there was nothing in the 3rd chamber. Evaporation is not a problem here!....might be up north.
Jeez isnt it wonderful that we can have all these stimulating conversations about the unspeakable......once again DOO DOO
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pokey
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I've got a lot to learn about the house construction stuff. I hope folks won't won't mind a u2u or two soliciting advice while I'm working on the
place.
Keep Mexico weird
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bajagrouper
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Hey Pokey,
A 2" pipe connected to a toilet is way undersized,in the USA you connect a toilet with a 4" flange to the floor,then sometimes that pipe that
connects the toilet to the rest of the system(callec a herco bend) may reduce from 4" to 3"...and each house will have a full bore (4") vent through
the roof...
Hey Bruce,
Usually a sewer line is graded at 1/4" per foot, rainwater piping is usuall 1% grade...
But it never fails the one time I flush the paper in a second story hotel room, well you could say the sh*t almost hit the fan...
hope this helps,40 years a plumber waiting for my first retirement check...
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bajaruby
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Now tell me...If THEIR toilet does't flush right and someone comes to visit THEM...THEY tell YOU to put the paper in the in the waste bucket,
please....AND YOU PUT IT IN THE TOILET! It cost them $ they can't afford because YOU didn't want THEM to see YOUR poop!!!! Do you really think they
want you to come back?
I have had many experiences where...WHEN YOU GOTTA GO, YOU GOTTA GO, but no one will let you use THEIR toilet. NOW WHY DO YOU THINK THAT
IS??????????
DAH!!!!!!!
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capn.sharky
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I can see there alot of experts on the subject of crap paper on this site. Why not just poop in the waste basket and put the paper in the toilet?
That way no one will see your crappy paper. Actually, by the amount of used toilet paper laying about in the desert of Baja, I kinda thought that was
where they threw it all. This all brings about the question that has plagued me for many years....how does a blind person know when he is through
papering himself?  :moon:
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
... the more angel you get on the pipes the better it will drain. but in fact to much angle clauses a lot of problems in that the liquids run away
from the solids and start plugging the pipe right away. |
Exactly right, Bruce. 1/4" per foot is the correct angle. The liquids flow slow enough to drag the solids along, rather than leave them behind.
Learned that one the hard way.
Having the right diameter pipe helps as well!
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Bob and Susan
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Just FLUSH IT!!!
Hey!!! Any of you guys related to George Castanza from the Sienfield Show...he used to be an expert on toilet paper
When and where was toilet paper first invented?
China?AD 1391
When was the first roll of toilet paper made and by whom?
Scott Paper Company in 1907
What did people use before toilet paper was invented?
*Newsprint, paper catalogue pages in early US
*Hayballs,
*Scraper/gompf stick kept in container by the privy in the Middle Ages
*Discarded sheep's wool in the Viking Age, England
*Frayed end of an old anchor cable
*Corn cobs, (still used in San Francisco) Sears Roebuck catalog, mussel shell, newspaper, leaves, sand- United States
*Water and your left hand, India
*Pages from a book, British Lords
*Coconut shells in early Hawaii (ouch!!!)
*Lace was used by French Royalty (figures!!!)
*Public Restrooms in Ancient Rome- A sponge soaked in salt water, on the end of a stick
*Hemp & wool were used by the elite citizens of the world
*Defecating in the river was very common internationally
*Snow and Tundra Moss were used by early Eskimos (COLD!!!)
Who invented the Flushing Toilet?
The flushing toilet was invented in 1596, not by Thomas Crapper as most people think, but by Sir John Harington a British nobleman
What does the word "toilet" mean?
Of French origin "act of washing, dressing, and preparing oneself".
Who was the first "soft" two-ply toilet paper producer?
St. Andrew's Paper Mill in Walthamstow, London, in 1942.
More Toilet paper facts?
What is the size of a sheet of toilet paper?
The standard size is 4.5" x 4.5". (SPARE A SQUARE?)
Which toilet paper is best for septic systems, recreational vehicles and boats?
All toilet papers today break down well in the septic system. However, thinner is better. 1 ply will break down easier and is best in recreational
vehicles and boats.
What is the "Toilet Paper Tax"?
In 1996, President Clinton passed a law on toilet paper, taxing each roll 6 cents
What is the average number of toilet tissue sheets a person uses in one day?
On average, consumers use 8.6 sheets per trip (What is YOUR usage?)
[Edited on 7-24-2005 by Bob and Susan]
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bajaruby
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capn.sharky,
THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION......
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bajaruby
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 Bob and Susan, You guys are really smart!!!!!!!!!!
Ever hear of lambs ear
Well it was the most popular with INDIANS of the western states, all the way to Baja.
Kinda makes you think of todays, "Charmon".
EVER TRIED IT??????????????
Better check your history....
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaruby
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At an average of 4.6 sheets per wipe that's a lot of lambs. (Better make that a flock.) Can you wash and use again?
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jrbaja
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You people
ARE DISGUSTING!!! Especially Bob and Susan!"*Corn cobs, (still used in San Francisco) "
I think it was Braulio or one o them groupers who said this board was going to crap.
Glad we could all do our part to prove him a real clairevoyant in the mierda dept.
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