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DanO
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Water expected to rise 9 more feet
The effort to shore up the largest levee break has apparently failed and the pumps that send the water back to the lake have failed. They expect nine
more feet of water before the city and the lake water levels equilibrate, in the next 12 hours our so. Meanwhile, they've got as many as 60,000
people, many of them badly hurt, in the Superdome, who now have to be evacuated to somewhere else (in the meantime, it's 90 degrees in there, with no
electricity and no water, toilets backing up, people jumping from the upper levels, shootings and carjackings outside, you name it). I just don't see
how they are going to get that done or how they're going to prevent massive disease outbreaks from the terrible conditions. There are going to be
thousands of dead from this.
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soulpatch
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Really, the looting is a minor issue in the overall scheme of things. The commercial stuff is or should be insured and it would probably be ruined
anyway.
The real issues are potable water, disease and total loss of lifestyles.
Imagine the sense of loss of people and things you hold dear...... it's gotta hurt.
I'd say, rather surprisingly, that Surfer Jim is taking the bonehead award on this one. Well done, mate.
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David K
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Thanks for posting the photos Pompano, they pretty well show how major this turned out to be...
[Edited on 8-31-2005 by David K]
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MrBillM
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No Problema
The REVEREND Jessie Jackson is going to work with Hugo Chavez to see that oil is imported at a discount to those who are needy. Of course, those
needy are going to have a devil of a time figuring out how to do something with that crude oil. Bathe in it to keep off the mosquitos ?
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Pompano
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The Eye of the Monster
One last photo before I go to sleep.....wish all the flood victims could sleep as well and as comfortable. Godspeed rescue missions.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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MrBillM
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Something to Ponder
Sitting here watching Greta Van Sustical "On The Record" and the Hurricane guy pointed out that this current scenario was forecast at the beginning of
the Season. In fact, they rated based on historical data, the area around New Orleans the most dangerous area for this season and it behaved exactly
as their worst case scenario had envisioned. What he was leading up to is the fact that the rest of that early forecast contemplates a second-hit
scenario for the same general region. The conditions out in the Atlantic and off of the Upper East Coast are developing just as that forecast had
predicted.
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jrbaja
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Brilliant David
We can fly them all over here to help in the empty bombers and you can check them all in at the gate.
This was in referrence to another of dk's ridiculous postings, which he again has deleted. And according to his post below, he doesn't seem to
remember the spew that comes out of his mouth on a regular basis.
Same with his ideas on Baja, just a bunch of gibberish from another tourist!
[Edited on 8/31/2005 by jrbaja]
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David K
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[Edited on 8-31-2005 by David K]
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vgabndo
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If you can step back and look at the larger picture...
The first thing that you hear these red state politicians saying is that as soon as possible they will rebuild in the same spot, but bigger and
better. So lets see. If I can build a house fast enough, I could get it built in the inter-tidal zone, and when the tide comes in, as surely as the
next hurricane will come, FEMA will use your tax dollars to build me another house in the same stupid location.
If you choose to build your house in a hole in the ground surrounded by water in a place where hurricanes are a frequent occurance, you had better
have something bit more bouyant than a belief in the supernatural to keep your butt dry.
At some point, common sense and rationality need to be taken into consideration. Mythology will not provide the food, water and basic necessities that
these poor people need. Those rescue materials will come from the rest of America, and since the blue states provide something like 80% of the US
economic engine, it will be, once again, money from the progressive states that bail these people out. Otherwise, the dominionist theocrats won't have
a dry place to stand.
The plight of these people is certainly pitiful, but equally predictable.
Personally, I'd prefer that all those billions of dollars we will have to send down there were emblazoned with: In Reason We Trust. Several million
simultaneous prayers didn't do squat.
Ok, I'm back in my foxhole, fire away...
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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soulpatch
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Hey David,
why do you have to bring that chit into the picture??????????? Seriously. can't you leave the religious bullchit/policital out of it?
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Pompano
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If this thread is ending..I want it to end on a different note..concerning the disaster, not opinions.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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David K
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OK... Thanks again Pompano!
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jrbaja
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When the levy breaks
or why Mexicans that are familiar with an area don't build their homes in arroyos.
To rebuild in the same situation would be downright stupidity! When do they start?
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MrBillM
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To Protect and Serve
Watching MSNBC for awhile last night, there was video taken inside a Walmart that was being looted. They were attempting to engage some of the
looters in conversation without much success
(big surprise), but then they came around a corner and there were two Big Mama Police Officers pushing a shopping cart and collecting loot off of the
shelves. Looking through the shoes for the right size. When the Mama Cop farthest away saw the camera, she took off around a corner. The closer one
turned away from the shopping cart and pushed past the camera. When they asked her what she was doing, she said "ma job". And just what was her job
? "Lookin for looters". Obviously, she was successful in finding at least two, including herself.
It's encouraging to see the law at work in time of disaster.
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jrbaja
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That's pushing it
but I did see a clip where they police were allowing the people to take food and water from the stores. Seems fair enough to me.
The rest should be shot.
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
but I did see a clip where they police were allowing the people to take food and water from the stores. Seems fair enough to me.
The rest should be shot. |
common thieves
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Mike Supino
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The looters somehow remind me of the million man march a few years back.
I believe that the march was on a weekday and no one missed a day at work  
Therianthropic
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MrBillM
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Looting
While the looting is wrong, law enforcement has the right attitude. The other problems they are faced with are a lot more important to a limited
force at this time. The perishables would just go bad anyway and the big outfits (probably small ones, too) like Walmart aren't interested in
salvaging any of their inventory. After the "Big One" here in 1992, the stores threw all sorts of good stuff in the dumpsters so they could just
write it off and not have to deal with damaged or scuffed up goods. Besides, many of the element looting are probably better kept occupied at that.
They're less likely to get into other, more harmful mischief.
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Pompano
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When I wrote dozens...it was dozens as known. Now unfortunately the numbers will escalate. I acknowledge the increase....sadly.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Sharksbaja
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just a prayer.... of all denominations
Bless the people of America and our resolve and strength to prevail against all
odds. Our hearts and our hands will be with you in your time of need.
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