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Killer Squid
great show on the discovery channel right now on the "killer squid" in the sea of cortez. Anybody see it or have any stories?
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I'm seeing it right now.
I've seen small squid while diving and caught some small ones with a night light and scoop net.
I love calamari; fryed, ceviche, in marinara fra diavlo...
Boy, could you feed a bunch of people fried calamari with one of those Humbolts ! Got any Humbolt recipes Sharks ? BTW, the food on your website looks
delicious !!
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I also like squid, cooked properly. 30 secs and no more deep fryed. Nope, we don't fry. Besides, fresh squid is the only way to go. They never get
landed here or anywhere close to here. I actually do have a couple recipes up my sleeve tho. Thanks for the note. If yer ever in the neighborhood,
come by I'll buy ya couple shooters (pistoleros).
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Famous baja watersports guide Dale Pearson of Gone To Baja fame will be filming these critters soon at hight in their natural habitat. I plan on being
on the boat watching, not in the water!!
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Sea Monsters
They are thick as fleas at times around SLC off of San Marcos Island. A few years ago we camped at SLC and followed the commercial panga fleet out
each night from 8pm-2am. They were hand lining tons of squid with a fleet of about 50-100 pangas and we were there to catch the Dodos that were
participating in the feast created by the mauruding squid! We would catch a squid and use it as chunk bait for the Dodos and when we got tired of
catching those we would drop iron for squid. They are like catching a freight train and it got pretty interesting when it was time to boat em and
retrieve your jig without donating any fingers or getting slimed! The schools are huge, maybe the size of several football fields and they shred
everything and anything they can catch...I would not want to fall over board. They were very fast and agile swimmers that turned on a dime and headed
back into the depths when they saw the boat as they chased our jigs to the surface. A few times they grabbed my arm with thier suckered tentacles
leaving a red welt the size of a quarter!
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Humbolt Squid at SLC
Below is a male squid caught at our doorstep at SLC. It's really a dink compared to the females off San Marcos. Note the ink it's releasing on the
right. It's my understanding that the males die after spawning, hence their presence in the coves. I fried this one up and we had it for lunch. It had
the familiar calamari taste we all love but was considerably tougher than our local California species Loligo opalescens that we buy in the
supermarkets. The mantle steaks are a solid one inch thick. I am not sure if tenderizing the steaks would help. They were tasty but rather chewy.
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bajablue
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Sharks or anyone?
what is the best way to tenderize the thicker ones. I have come across those in the past as well and have just tried to lightly saut? them, but it was
really tough. Even tried to fry them, but just wasn't the same.. Any tips on getting them tender?
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With the large Squid that I have cooked I have not been able to get what I would say was a saltwater taste out of them. We tried with the outer skin
removed, freezing and thawing still not good for my taste, I know a lot of other people who have complained about that problem. When you go into a
restuarant you don't get that tast.
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Calamar, if prepared properly can be cut with a fork. Pompano is right. It all has to do with the membrane. Hard to explain. Much easier to show. By
the way I was down at Jungle Jims tonight and John was telling stories of catching, I believe he said, 40 pound calamar. Im not sure when, and we had
all had a few. I believe Mulege Marv has the complete story.
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We had a huge run of them in San Diego this year, up to 55 pounds. The big trick we found was to get the membrane off of BOTH sides, the inner one is
a little hard to see. After thats done we use a tenderizer and soak overnight in milk, then panko and deep fry.
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One of the main reasons that the Large Squid do not tast good is that the PH level changes at a certain time of their Life Span usually at the time
they are much smaller.
I have always found "the smalle the better tasting.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajablue
great show on the discovery channel right now on the "killer squid" in the sea of cortez. Anybody see it or have any stories? |
I've never eaten a Humbolt, just the smaller ones, but I have to say this show was great. The way they can change colors so fast is unbelievable.
When you guys catch them, are they changing color in the boat too before they die?
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are these the same squid that hang out in san lucas cove...
right close to shore,while we there my buddy speared one and we cut it up and cooked it but it was almost impossible to chew...i kinda figured that it
was the wrong type of squid for eatin,but maybe if i had tried some of the above methods it would have been better
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ursidae69
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajablue
great show on the discovery channel right now on the "killer squid" in the sea of cortez. Anybody see it or have any stories? |
I've never eaten a Humbolt, just the smaller ones, but I have to say this show was great. The way they can change colors so fast is unbelievable.
When you guys catch them, are they changing color in the boat too before they die? |
Yes they do change color as you say. And it's fascinating to watch. The one my son is holding in the above picture would change from a deep maroon
color to a very pale color in seconds before your very eyes. ,It was almost like some people's faces flush at being embarassed. It looks as though
these animals are going through emotional changes - perhaps fear and anger. There is a danger in associating human emotions with the siimpler animals
but it's very hard to resist that when you actually see it.
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bajablue
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great info and tips guys, thank you...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Who can say, maybe someday one of us fishermen will pull up something like the ________? caught off Africa a decades ago. Remember that one? It was
supposed to be extinct a couple million years ago. Next time you are fishing really, really deep......perhaps. |
Coelocanth. I remember it well. I was in school at the time and they made a big todo about it at the Academy here in SF. All packed
in ice, it was. The natives off Madagascar had actually caught it.
Anyway, about the squid. I don't think these humbolt squid were in baja in such numbers before. At first I thought that they were there all along
until someone 'discovered' their presence and the fishery started. But now I just think they just moved in about 10 years ago into those waters.
Thanks for the life history of these critters, pompano. Personally, I like that kind of stuff. And that kind of information is not always real easy to
find either, even with our great search engines.
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heres one off yahoo i saw today about the big ones...
Scientists capture giant squid on camera
1 hour, 55 minutes ago
LONDON (Reuters) - Japanese scientists have taken the first photographs of one of the most mysterious creatures in the deep ocean -- the giant squid.
Until now the only information about the behavior of the creatures which measure up to 18 meters (59 feet) in length has been based on dead or dying
squid washed up on shore or captured in commercial fishing nets.
But Tsunemi Kubodera, of the National Science Museum, and Kyoichi Mori of the Ogasawara Whale Watching Association, both in Tokyo have captured the
first images of Architeuthis attacking bait 900 meters (yards) below the surface in the cold, dark waters of the North Pacific.
"We show the first wild images of a giant squid in its natural environment," they said in a report on Wednesday in the journal Proceedings B of the
Royal Society.
Little is known about the creatures because it has been so difficult to locate and study them alive. Large ships and specialist equipment, which is
costly, are needed to study deep sea environments.
The Japanese scientists found the squid by following sperm whales, the most effective hunters of giant squid, as they gathered to feed between
September and December in the deep waters off the coast of the Ogasawara Islands in the North Pacific.
They used a remote long-line camera and depth logging system to capture the giant squid in the ocean depths.
"The most dramatic character of giant squids is the pair of extremely long tentacles, distinct from the eight shorter arms. The long tentacles make up
to two-thirds of the length of the dead specimens to date," the scientists said in the journal.
They added that the giant squid appear to be a much more active predator than researchers had suspected and tangled their prey in their elongated
feeding tentacles.
...there was some pictures but they werent to big,go to yahoo to check them out
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Who can say, maybe someday one of us fishermen will pull up something like the ________? caught off Africa a decades ago. Remember that one? It was
supposed to be extinct a couple million years ago. Next time you are fishing really, really deep......perhaps. |
Coelocanth. I remember it well. I was in school at the time and they made a big todo about it at the Academy here in SF. All packed
in ice, it was. The natives off Madagascar had actually caught it.
Anyway, about the squid. I don't think these humbolt squid were in baja in such numbers before. At first I thought that they were there all along
until someone 'discovered' their presence and the fishery started. But now I just think they just moved in about 10 years ago into those waters.
Thanks for the life history of these critters, pompano. Personally, I like that kind of stuff. And that kind of information is not always real easy to
find either, even with our great search engines.
skipjack |
A Fish Caught in Time by Samantha Weinberg is a very good read. It chronicles the amazing story of the people/science involved with the discovery of
the ceolcanth.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170632,00.html
Giant Squid Finally Captured on Film
Wednesday, September 28, 2005
PHOTOS
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STORIES
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Jumbo Flying Squid Found Off Alaska
TOKYO ? When a nearly 20-foot long tentacle was hauled aboard his research ship, Tsunemi Kubodera knew he had something big. Then it began sucking on
his hands. But what came next excited him most ? hundreds of photos of a purplish-red sea monster doing battle 3,000 feet deep.
It was a rare giant squid (search), a creature that until then had eluded observation in the wild.
Kubodera's team captured photos of the 26-foot-long beast attacking its bait, then struggling for more than four hours to get free. The squid pulled
so hard on the line baited with shrimp that it severed one of its own tentacles.
"It was quite an experience to feel the still-functioning tentacle on my hand," Kubodera, a researcher with Japan's National Science Museum, told The
Associated Press. "But the photos were even better."
For centuries giant squids, formally called Architeuthis (search), have been the stuff of legends, appearing in the myths of ancient Greece or
attacking a submarine in Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea." But they had never been seen in their natural habitat, only caught in fishing
nets or washed ashore dead or dying.
The Japanese team, capping a three-year effort, filmed the creature in September of last year, finding what one researcher called "the holy grail" of
deep-sea animals.
The results were not announced until this week, when they were published in Wednesday's issue of the British journal, the Proceedings of the Royal
Society B: Biological Sciences. Kyoichi Mori, of the Ogasawara Whale Watching Association (search), co-authored the study.
Giant squid are the world's largest invertebrates, having been known to exceed 50 feet. Kubodera said the one he caught on camera was probably an
adult female. He said the squid's tentacle would not grow back, but its life was not in danger.
The photos earned the team cheers from researchers around the world, largely because of the difficulty of finding the mysterious giant.
"That's getting footage of a real sea monster," said Randy Kochevar, a deep-sea biologist with the Monterey Bay Aquarium (search) in California.
"Nobody has been able to observe a large giant squid where it lives. There are people who said it would never be done. It's really an incredible
accomplishment."
The photos ? taken with strobe lights at 30-second intervals ? also shed some new light on the animal's behavior.
"We think it is a much more active predator than was previously thought," Kubodera said Wednesday. "It had previously been seen as more lethargic, and
not as strong."
In the pictures, the squid's tentacles can be seen stretching out toward the bait, grasping it and pulling away in a ball. It is then seen struggling
to get itself free of the jig attached to the line under the remote-controlled camera. The struggle took place at a depth of between 2,000-3,000 feet.
Kudodera said catching the squid on film was the result of 10 years of sleuthing.
He added that he had some help ? from a population of sperm whales (search).
"We knew that they fed on the squid, and we knew when and how deep they dived," he said. "So we used them to lead us to the squid."
Kudodera and his team found the squid about 10 miles off the remote island of Chichijima (search), which is about 600 miles southeast of Tokyo. They
had been conducting expeditions in the area for about three years before they actually succeeded in making their first contact at 9:15 a.m. on Sept.
20 last year.
"We were very lucky," he said. "A lot of research went into it, but still, others have tried and not succeeded."
New Zealand's leading authority on the giant squid, marine biologist Steve O'Shea, praised the Japanese team's feat.
"Through sheer ... determination the guy has gone on and done it," said O'Shea, chief marine scientist at the Auckland University of Technology
(search), who is not linked to the Japanese research.
O'Shea said he hopes to capture juvenile giant squid and grow them in captivity. He captured 17 of them five years ago but they died
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