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wrk
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Art & Beer near Pescadero - don't go
Don't go there. They are rude, obnoxious, rude, obnoxious. Many people on this board and other boards have said so in the past - it is true. They
won't let you even wait five minutes in their establishment without paying their "minimum" charge - even if you tell them you are waiting for amigos
and will happily purchase a drink when your amigos arrive. Just DON'T GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't matter whether you speak English or Spanish - they
are equally rude in either language.
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Barry A.
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I almost got into a fight with that guy-----
last time I was in there about 2 years ago. He has a real problem----------I second, DON'T GO THERE.
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Tucker
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Is that the place formerly known as Los Arbolitos? Huge mango tree growing inside? The people who built and first ran the place were great. Of course
that has been more than 10 years ago.
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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Diver
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We stopped for a snack/meal there 2 or 3 years ago.
Our little man had to pee first so we all headed for the bathrooms.
We were stopped by management who demanded the "minimum" before we pee'd. We ended up leaving without eating after my two year old dropped trou and
relieved himself less than 10' from the front entry.
Kid has no shame; just like his dad ! 
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TripleG
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Art & Beer
Must have changed a lot in a year as my wife and I have gone there several times in the last couple of years and they have been very friendly.
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Barry A.
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If you don't violate any of his "unknown" rules-----
he probably is just charming. Make a mistake, and you catch his wrath-------watch your step-------the guy is a wacko, IMHO, and I would never go back.
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vandenberg
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I would like to know what establishment you're talking about.
Please enlighten me.
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Barry A.
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Vandenberg--------See post #1 of this thread
"Art and Beer" near El Pescadero, Baja Sur, south of Todos Santos, is the one I am talking about-----it is on the west side of the highway, sorta out
in the open. Wierd looking place, with strange folks inside. Don't go there, unless you are really curious about wacko folks.
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David K
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Yes, perhaps escapees from the 'Hotel California'!??
[Edited on 10-16-2005 by David K]
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vandenberg
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Barry
Thanks. Generally the Todos Santos area. Seldom go there. If we do go to the cape ,we usually take the old road through El Triunfo, much prettier and
scenic. Pescaderos all over the peninsula, that's why I asked.
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jrbaja
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I was confused too.
Thanks for clarifying.
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bajaden
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I will never go and I will also tell my friends not to go. I also seldom go through Todos Santos, so its not much of a sacrifice. Much rather go down
through the cape.
Just out of curiosity, are there any mexicans left in Todos Santos?
At a feast of egos, everyone leave\'s hungry...
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Barry A.
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Mexicans in Todos Santos????-------
Yes, there are, and we happened to run into her when we visited about 2 years ago. (just kidding) We stayed in a brand new 4-plex within a big, and
well established, mobilehome park right in town, and it was really nice, and not that expensive. It was run by a very nice Mexican women, at least I
think she was Mexican. We really liked the town, and the people, but I know what you mean. I have always liked Todos Santos. All the restaurants we
ate in were excellent, and all run by Mexicans-----really.
Actually, "Art and Beer" is also run by a Mexican, or he is hispanic, anyway. He is not a nice person, tho, which is very unusual. I understand that
he originally lived in the USA. He hit me with his very unusual "rules" when my wife asked where the restroom was, (we had all already ordered very,
very expensive drinks, but not my wife).
He very gruftly said, "your wife must order something before she can use the restroom". I said innocently that, "she was really not thirsty". He
said, "then no restroom for her"----you know, like the "restroom N-zi". That is when I said, "your kidding, of course". He litterally went ballistic,
and tried to kick us out. I refused to leave until I got my expensive ($12 usa) drink. (I had already paid for it). He refused to give me my drink,
and that is about when I was ready to clobber him. I think I said something like, " I am going to burn this place down if you don't give me my drink".
I got my drink, but he screamed a lot, cursed a lot, made many bad comments about my Gringo-ism, and tried to escort me out. I had never raised my
voice, and was flabbergasted at his actions. I went outside to join my wife (she was so mad that she had to leave, or she would have thrown something
at the N-zi) and to drink my very expensive drink, and left the glass in the parking lot. We were with another couple----they did not dare ask about
the restrooms, and the N-zi left them alone.
Now, understand that I have been going to Mexico for some 50 years and NEVER had anything like this happen before, or since, and cannot recall ever
having any major problems.
A "restroom N-zi", that is what he is. I am surprised that he is still in business.
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David K
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"...he screamed a lot, cursed a lot, made many bad comments about my Gringo-ism..."
Doesn't this sound a lot like... ?? Oh, never mind!
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Barry A.
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Oh, Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
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jrbaja
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Restroom N-zi
What kind of community is Todos Santos again David? Or is that another of
your"so much Baja" double talk.
I'm again trying to be nice. But then I see you pretending to own some huevos when people aren't around to defend themselves.
Don't start it again
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The Gull
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Defending Todo Santos
...nothing can be more stooopid.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
What kind of community is Todos Santos again David? Or is that another of
your"so much Baja" double talk.
I'm again trying to be nice. But then I see you pretending to own some huevos when people aren't around to defend themselves.
Don't start it again |
JR, what are to talking about? Last time I was in Todos Santos (Dec. 2001), I didn't even stop!!! Oh, I guess because I had "so little time"!
Actually we were trying to get to Baja Bus' place before dark... in Colonia Elias Calles! Max, Lynn, and their friends are great people... spent
Christmas with them.
'Baja Bus' satellite and solar power expert of Baja Sur!
Lynn next to 'The Bus' that Max get's his handle from.
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jrbaja
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When was the first time?
And what I'm talking about is your attacks on Me No now that he's not around.
Why don't you just chill out, pretend to know about Baja, and promote your site promoting everyone elses trips. Nevermind your chicken chit tactics.
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Bajaboy
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Art & Beer near Pescadero - don't go
I've driven by that place many times...it just doesn't look inviting. After all, art does not go with beer.....
As for Pescadero, there are some cool little places to eat. A number of years back, some friends took us out for some burgers. Everything was great
but here's the rub...we basically bought burgers that were cooked in someone's front yard. Let me clarify, you are actually in their front
yard...imagine going to a friend's house for a bbq. We had to bring our own beer (no problem there) and I think the place was only open a few days a
week. The place definately left me muttering "Only in Baja..."
Does anyone know of the place I am referring to?
Zac
[Edited on 10-16-2005 by Bajaboy]
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