Borderhopper
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First timer driving from TJ to La Paz?
What is the estimated driving time of a regular passenger car from TJ to La Paz? Is this a trip I could make over the course of a 4 day weekend? If
not does anyone have any alternative sites to visit south of Ensenada? I'm new here so forgive me if this question has been asked a few times already.
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Ski Baja
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Driving and fatigue
La Paz is too far under the best of circumstances for a four day weekend. The road is pretty messed up right now which requires your undivided
attention which is very tiring.
I would recommend Gonzaga Bay as you would then have time to appreciate the beach instead of just constant driving. Or Bahia de los Angeles which is
a little further south but has a better road at this time.
If you are really into the driving part, go to Gonzaga from Puertecitos. Que bonito!
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David K
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You did say passenger car, and not SUV or pickup truck, right?
Gonzaga does not need 4WD, but requires either 40 (from the south) or 60 (from the north) bumpy dirt road miles to get to.
My vote would be Bahia de los Angeles for a 4 day trip (8-9 hrs, one way). There is a town there, restaurants (Las Hamacas #1), motels (Casa del Sol
#1), campos with palapas or cabins (Camp Gecko #1, 4 mi. south), stores, etc. I have tons of L.A. Bay area photos in my web site... Getting there you
will drive through the world's most spectacular desert scenery, too!
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Borderhopper
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Thank you
Thanks to the both of you for the information. I will start researching these options and will probably skip my plans to go all the way to La Paz.
You've both been a help!
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thebajarunner
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First timer
Au contraire....
The very most beautiful parts of your trip will be the rock garden at Catavina and the stretch along the Concepcion Bay.
Try for the Parador at Catavina for the night, enjoy those wonderful rocks, boojums and cactus in the evening and morning light. We spent a full week
right there with a UCSanta Cruz photography class.
Then shoot for Loreto (a long day) and a leisurely drive down along Concepcion Bay the next morning. Be sure to wear your Polaroids, and spend lots
of stops looking down into those wonderful waters.
We drove from La Paz to Modesto in 23 hours in 1974 but much of that was over 100 mph and about 80 mph through California, probably not well
recommended for sightseeing.
Baja Vida!!
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Baja Again
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I don't think so.
I don't think so. And I bet your Modesto trip didn't include many washed out Vados from the hurricanes.
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thebajarunner
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LaPaz to Modesto
That was the year that they "completed" the transpeninular highway although long stretches were just graded and waiting for paving.
Most of the Northern half was in pretty good shape, not many potholes and the unpaved stretches were real fast, just as fast as pavement when you had
been pre-running for days.
And we hit LA about 2 a.m. and that was before the 55 mph speed limits so the CHP was letting you rip on an early morning about as fast as you wanted
to go.
Baja Vida!!
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elgatoloco
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Day 1- Cross border and get tourist visa. Head down coast on toll road looking to your right at gorgeous views.Stop at El Mirador for photo op.
Ensenada for lunch. Top off tank at south end of town.South to Cielito Lindo before dark for room/camp and crab claw dinner.
Day 2-Southbound in the AM top off tank at El Rosario continue to Catavi?a for room/camp.
Day 3- Up early to watch the sunrise amidst the boojums and boulders of a most unique part of this or any planet. Spend day hiking and scrambling over
and IN big rocks.
Day 4- Up early head north top off tank in El Rosario and continue on to SQ and lunch at El Paradiso. Continue on to Ensenada and have dinner at one
of many great places. Take toll road back to border.
Remember to come to complete stop at ALL red lights and stop signs. Always use your signal and drive SLOW thru inhabitated areas. 
MAGA
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Baja Again
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Passenger car
Ooops, I would have to agree with TheCrazyCat except you may enjoy the Old Mill in San Quintin rather than the transition period of C.L. And, you
could probably fit in a drive to La Bufadora with that schedule which is a very interesting side trip.
You probably don't want to take a chance of something bad happening to the car on at least the Gonzaga roads. People have been to Bahia de los
Angeles recently so they will inform you I am sure of the pothole conditions that can pretty much destroy a passenger car.
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David K
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2/3 of the 41 mile highway into Bahia de los Angeles is all new pavement. The last 1/3 has had most of the pot holes patched by the L.A. Bay
community's efforts. Just slow down for the final few miles... L.A. Bay and the drive to it represents a good example of Central Baja for these first
timers, and four days is the perfect minimum for that distance. See http://davidksbaja.com/bedman and http://davidksbaja.com/bedman2 for pics by Bedman and http://davidksbaja.com/703 from my last trip.
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