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Kiliwa Tribe


I am seeking general background information on the Kiliwa people of northern Baja California for a scientific publication describing a new species of scarab beetle.

I am interested in brief historical accounts, present day status, correct pronunciation of "Kiliwa" and is Kiliwa or Kolew the correct reference.

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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 11:04 AM


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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 11:52 AM
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Click here to get your answers & Welcome

Nuts far to many letters in the URL to copy here. Just type in Kiliwa Indians in Google and you will find everything you want.

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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 05:57 PM


Nice looking bug, and judging from the beautiful petro pics by Don Jorge, it has been around awhile. See:

http://www.southcoastfarms.com/baja_flowers_spring_2004.htm

Scroll down on the page left to "cave5.jpg" Looks familiar to me.

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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 07:05 PM
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The most detailed ethnographic study of the Kiliwa was done in the late 1930s by Peveril Meigs, who also wrote his dissertaion later published as a monograph on the Dominican missions located between Rosario and the international border.
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[*] posted on 11-13-2005 at 10:14 AM
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[*] posted on 11-13-2005 at 02:55 PM
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PEVERIL MEIGS (1903-1979) (Ph.D., 1932). Both Meigs studies were published in the 1930s. The Kiliwa monograph was a part of one of the University of California series, in Anthropology I believe. You would have to look in a library. About 30 years ago I was able to get a copy of Meigs study on the Dominican missions in a used bookstore: Peveril Meigs, The Dominican Mission Frontier of Lower California (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1935). My volume on the Baja California missions in the Borderlands Sourcebooks Series published in the early 1990s by Garland reproduced much of Meigs's book on the Dominican missions. The title of the Kiliwa study is: "The Kiliwa Indians of Lower California (Mexico)." Univ. Calif. Publ. Geogr., 15, 133 pp., 1939. He also co-authored a study with Carl Sauer on San Fernando mission: "Site and culture at San Fernando de Velicat?." (with Carl Sauer) Univ. Calif. Publ. Geogr., 2(9):271-302, 1927. Here is his complete resume as listed at the Geography program at U.C. Berkeley, which is also my alma mater:
PEVERIL MEIGS (1903-1979) (Ph.D., 1932)
"Historical geography of the Dominican Mission frontier, Baja, California." (Sauer)

b. 5 May 1903, Flushing, N.Y. City, N.Y.; deceased 16 September 1979, Wayland, MA. m., Yvonne Lieben; ch., Willard, Nancy (Brandriss).

A.B. University of California, Berkeley.

Chief, Earth Sciences Research Div., Quartermaster Corps, Washington, D.C.Natick, Mass. 1949-1965. Retired 1965.

Visiting Prof. Louisiana State Univ. 1938-39; San Francisco State College, 1929; Chico State College, 1929-1942. Geographer, Office of Strategic Serices, 1942-45; editor, Joint Intelligence Studies Publishing Board, 1944-47 representing OSS and State Dept.; geographic analyst, Arctic Institute of N. Am. working on Arctic Biblio., 1948-49.

Pres., Assoc. Pac. Coast Geogr., 1939-40. Chrmn., Arid Zone Commission, International Geographical Union, 1950-1968.

Books and Monographs:

"The Dominican Mission frontier of Lower California (Mexico)." Univ. Calif. Publ. in Geogr. 7, 231 pp., 1935. (Reprinted by Johnson Reprint Co., N.Y., 1968.)

"The Kiliwa Indians of Lower California (Mexico)." Univ. Calif. Publ. Geogr., 15, 133 pp., 1939.

Fundamentals of Economic Geography (with Nels Bengston and W. Van Royen). 3rd edition. New York-Prentice Hall, 1950.

"Geography of coastal deserts." UNESCO Publ. in Arid Zone Research, 28, Paris. 140 pp., 1966.

Articles:

"Site and culture at San Fernando de Velicat?." (with Carl Sauer) Univ. Calif. Publ. Geogr., 2(9):271-302, 1927.

"Vegetation on shellmounds, Lower California." Science, n.s., 88:346. April 15, 1938.

"Climates of California." Calif. State Dept. of Education Science Series, 44 pp., 1938.

"Water planning in the Great Central Valley, California." Geographical Review, 29:252-273, 1939.

"A new index for the analysis of regional trends." Scottish Geographical Magazine, 55:161-170, 1939.

"Exploring American orchards." Yearbook, Assoc. Pac. Coast Geogr., pp. 3-5, 1940.

"Current trends in California orchards and vineyards." Economic Geography, 17:275-286, 1941.

"An ethno-telephonic survey of French Louisiana." Annals, Assoc. Amer. Geogr., 31:243-250, 1941.

"Suggestions for the research program of the proposed International Institute of the Arid Zone." UNESCO, Paris. 5 pp., 1949. (Mimeographed)

"Water problems in the United States." Geographical Review, 42(3):346-366, 1952. (Reprinted in Bobbs-Merrill reprint series in Geography).

"What is an arid zone?" "Distribution of arid climates." Courier, UNESCO, 5(7):6-9. 1952.

"Design and use of homoclimatic maps: dry climates of Israel as example." In Desert Research, Proc. International Symposium held in Jerusalem May 7-14, 1952, sponsored by the Research Council of Israel and UNESCO Jerusalem. pp. 99-111, 1953.

"World distribution of arid and semiarid homoclimates." In Review of research on arid zone hydrology. Paris: UNESCO. pp. 203-209, maps, 1953. Also French edition, 1953. U . N . Maps Nos. 392, 393, scale 1:28,500,000 published separately, 1952.

"Outlook for the arid realms of the United States." Focus, American Geographical Soc., December 1953.

"The geographic study of water on the land." P.E. James and C.F. Jones (eds.), American Geography: Inventory and Prospect, Chapter 17. Assoc. Amer. Geogr. Syracuse Univ. Press, 1954.

"Outlook for arid North Africa: the Sahara." Focus, Amer. Geographical Soc., December 1954.

"Salvaging the desert." The Nation, 180:577-579, 1955.

"First report of the Commission on the Arid Zone." 9th Gen. Assembly and 18th Int. Geog. Congress, Rio de Janeiro, 1956. I. G. U. New York, 1956.

"Frequency of cold-wet climatic conditions in the United States." (with Fernand de Percin) Monthly Weather Review, 85:45-52, Feb. 1957.

"Arid and semiarid climatic types of the world." In Proc. 8th Gen. Assembly and 17th Int. Congress, Washington, D. C., 1952. Int. Geog. Union, Nat. Acad. Sci. - Nat. Res. Council, Washington, D. C. pp. 135-138, 1957.

"Weather and climate." In Edmund C. Jaeger, The North American Deserts. Stanford Univ. Press. pp. 13-32, 1957.

"Report of the Chairman, Commission on the Arid Zone." The IGU Newsletter, 11:14-22, 1960.

"The climates of Central Africa." In G. H. T. Kimble, Tropical Africa, I. New York: Twentieth Century Fund. pp. 39-59, 1960.

"Some geographical factors in the Peloponnesian War." Geog. Rev., 51:370-380, 1961.

"Quartermaster problems of the ancient Greeks." QM Review, 41:38, 128-137, 1961.

"Classification and occurrence of Mediterranean-type dry climates." Bulletin de la Societe Hellenique de Geographie, ser. 3, 4:34-41, 1963. (Reprinted in Land use in semi-arid Mediterranean climates, UNESCO, Publ. in Arid Zone Research, 26:17-21, 1964.

"The distinctiveness of coastal deserts." UNESCO Newsletter, Arid Zone, no. 26, pp. 8-10, Dec. 1964.

"Peru's coastal deserts. Land of three great cultures." The UNESCO Courier, 19:10, 11, 14, 15, March 1966.

"Coastal deserts: prime customers of desalination." In Proc. of the 1st International Symposium on Water Desalination, 1965. Washington: Government Printing Office. 3:721-736, maps, 1967.

"The cove names of Walden." The Thoreau Society Bulletin, 104, Summer 1968, pp. 5-7, map.

"Future use of desert seacoasts." In W. G. McGinnies and B. J. Goldman (eds.), Arid Lands in Perspective. Washington, D. C. and Tucson, Ariz.: Amer. Assoc. for the Advancement of Science and Univ. of Ariz. Press. pp. 101-118, 1969.

"Capes of human hair from Baja California and outside." Pac. Coast Archeological Soc. Quarterly, 6(1):21-28, Jan. 1970.

"Historical geography of tide mills on the Atlantic coast." Amer. Philosophical Soc. Yearbook 1970. Phila.: Amer. Philosophical Soc. pp. 462-464, 1971.

"Notes on theLa Huerta Jat'am. Baja California. Place-names, hunting, and shamans." Pac. Coast. Archaeological Soc., Quarterly, 8(1):25-40, Jan. 1972.

"World distribution of coastal deserts." Chap. 1 in Coastal Deserts: Their Natural and Human Environments, D.H.K. Amiran and A.W. Wilson (eds.). Univ. of Arizona Press, pp. 313, 1973.

"Some pictographs in northern Baja California." Pac. Coast Archaeological Society Quarterly, 12:1-8, June 1976.

"Tide mills on the Atlantic." Old Mills News, 7, 1979.


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[*] posted on 11-13-2005 at 05:47 PM
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[*] posted on 11-13-2005 at 06:14 PM


Bugdude,
As you can see, you came to the right place. And that's only the first 4 hours!!!

You'll probably get a lot more responses as there are a couple of bug people and Baja history buffs here that haven't responded yet.

Let us know when you publish that paper. You might want to consider donating a copy to the Baja Library being put together at El Rosario.

I'm curous, are you going to cite Baja Nomad as a source?




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[*] posted on 11-14-2005 at 03:31 PM


Thanks to everyone who has replied thus far.

I am still hoping to find (and searching the internet) how the name is correctly pronounced (where the accent lies) as an act of cross-cultural courtesy.

Todos para el momento. Grazias.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2005 at 03:59 PM


Bugdude,

In August on Baja Talk Radio (http://www.worldtalkradio.com/show.asp?sid=126) we had Mike Wilken, who is an expert of the indigeounos of Baja California, as a guest on the radio program. You can listen to the show and contact him for information.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2005 at 08:17 PM


Thanks for the link. A lot of excellent information there. Highly recommended as well as a perusal of the archives. There are several other shows that I want to listen to when time permits.

FYI: The name is pronounced keh-lee-wah

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[*] posted on 11-15-2005 at 10:05 AM


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Thanks for the interesting question. I learned alot from my google search.
acording to this site, http://www.indigenouspeople.net/kiliwa.htm they call themselves the Ko'lew or man hunters. Kiliwa is what other tribes called them. I wonder if Kiliwa means "people you hide from".:lol:
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[*] posted on 11-15-2005 at 02:54 PM
If you will be in Ensenada Nov 26-27, might learn some answers here....


NATIVA 2005: FESTIVAL OF TRADITIONAL ARTS OF BAJA CALIFORNIA

Native artists from the Paipai, Kumiai, Cucapa and Kiliwa communities will gather in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico to take part in an interactive marketplace featuring the traditional arts of Baja California. This is a wonderful opportunity for the public, buyers and specialists to interact directly with indigenous artists and learn about the handcraft traditions that have been passed on from countless generations of native peoples of the peninsula.

The Native Arts and Traditional Foods Marketplace will be held Saturday and Sunday, November 26-27, from 11 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. at the Hotel Misi?n Santa Isabel, Blvd. L?zaro C?rdenas y Ave. Castillo, in Ensenada. There will be more than 30 traditional artists from the indigenous communities of Baja California with a rich array of traditional pottery, basektry (willow, juncus rush, pine and palm), beaded jewelry, bows and arrows, sage incense, leather articles, sculptures and many other unique handmade items (see attached poster). The market will also feature interactive classes in which the public can sit with an artisan and learn to make a craft, demonstrations of traditional food preparation (including samples and food booths), an auction and an arts contest.

The event is organized by the Alliance for Sustainable Development (ADESU; see www.adesu.org), a project that unites indigenous communities, organizations of Mexico and the US, and individuals to work for cultural and natural heritage conservation through sustainable development in Baja California?s native lands. Current participants include, Terra Peninsular, dedicated to land conservation in Baja California http://www.terrapeninsular.org/, The Native Cultures Institute of Baja California (CUNA), Interamerican Foundation, and volunteers from Mexico and the US in collaboration with the indigenous communities of Baja California.

For more information, or to help sponsor this important event, please call (from USA): 1 818 264 4519; from Mexico: 646 178 8780 (Spanish only) or 646 174 6732 (English); or e-mail cunabc@telnor.net in either language. For hotel map and information, visit: http://www.baja.com/ENSENADA/lodging/santa_isabel/
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[*] posted on 11-15-2005 at 05:13 PM


Yes, from what I understand and have researched online, the Kiliwa call themselves Ko'lew which roughly translates to "man hunter" but I considered the etymology as referring to the aboriginal Kiliwa as hunters (of game) and gatherers and who reportedly engaged in some agriculture?

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