losfrailes
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Most folks will not have both.
Both have advantages and disadvantages.
Skype is free to join, CrystalVoice costs.
Skype deposit is lost if not renewed, CrysalVoice just carries on.
Both cost about the same to use. A little less than 3 cents per minute except to anothe user of the same system on a computer, then its free.
However, a skype user cannot connect with a crystalvoice user pc to pc. PC to hard line is fine.
I personally use Crystalvoice, have done so for several years. Am very happy with the latency lag (you cannot escape that if using Satellite
internet). If using a hardline here in Mexico, like Prodigy.net.mx there is no apparent lag.
I am sure that the users of Skype will help with their words and experience on that system.
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MrBillM
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Comparisons on DirecWay
I've been using Crystal Voice since January on DirecWay with mixed results. Setting aside the propagation delay inherent in a Satellite feed, I've
had a lot of calls where the quality varied during the call and some breakups. Not having an alternate for comparison, I couldn't say whether the
quality problems were attributable to Crystal Voice or DirecWay.
Three days ago, I loaded Skype on the same computer and have been using it for numerous calls. The same problems seem to be resident within Skype
that I encountered with Crystal Voice. Some of the quality degrading is no doubt involved with the numerous gateways that the call must go through.
I say this because the setup allows you to make a test call to their server and then listen to it afterwards. THAT call voice quality was perfect,
however, in real life calling I encountered background hum, static, etc. However, once both parties adapt to the shortcomings, a satisfactory
conversation can occur.
There is little doubt that the erratic uploading on DirecWay contributes to this. That uploading usually varies between 19K and 38K. If it were to
remain at the higher level, it would probably work fine since I've tried Crystal Voice on a dialup in the region of 38K and the quality problems were
not apparent.
The bottom line for Satellite use is that BOTH are fairly equal. You can utilize them for acceptable, if not great, conversations.
If you're on DSL, it's a whole different game and you'll probably be happy with either. The per minute charge is about the same (2 cents per minute),
but Crystal Voice has a yearly fee and Skype does not.
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bajalou
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Thanks for comparing them - I've used Skype for a year or so and been relatively happy with it - so now don't have to wonder if CrystalVoice is
better.
Oh, and I've had money credit with Skype for over a year and they do not confiscate it at any time.
[Edited on 11-20-2005 by bajalou]
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bajaden
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I've been using Skype with a land line. The quality of the calls are the same as with a regular phone. I've never had my credits confiscated, but
then my wife is on the phone all the time and uses them up quite regularly. The cost is about a penny and a half a minute. Of course skype to skype is
free.
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niknas
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The money credit only goes away if you don't use Skype at all for six months. I have been using Skype calling out of Los Barrilies and the sound
quality is very good. Skype to Skype is free and works.
Nik 
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bill erhardt
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I have CrystalVoice on a land line. Little or no lag and good, dependable service. Last year my daughter was in England and my son in France. I
could get them both on a 3-way and we could talk Mexico/France/England for 5.8 cents per minute.
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JZ
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There should be no problem using SkypeOut to call MX. I do it all the time. User error somewhere.
Skype is good stuff.
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bajalou
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I have called Mex (San Felipe) with Skype from US a few times - it's not the 2 cents a min but got thru OK.
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JZ
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Your the very first person I've ever seen bash Skype. Most think it is awesome. It was user error.
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comitan
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JZ
My turn, wouldn't it be better to say you might not have had it configuired corrrectly. But then again since he runs an ISP he should know how to
configure.
[Edited on 11-21-2005 by comitan]
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Anyone try the new netzero service, I am getting good reports for service over sat. $14.99 unlimited calls and the 1st 3 months free.
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You get what you Pay For.
If you've got DSL or even a Good Dialup ISP, Skype and Crystal Voice both are probably fine. On DirecWay, they're worth the two cents per minute.
Period. I'm running both since I had to buy 10 Euros worth of credit to try out Skype and they both seem to be about the same as far as quality and
delay.
Since I'm not addicted to talking on the Telephone, I check my voicemails via Satellite and use my Telcel Cellular when I want a clear, dependable
connection. Putting 100 pesos every sixty days on my Telcel account, I've accumulated a residual of 550 pesos. Telephone calls are not a big expense
for me.
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MrBillM
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Update - Crystal Voice 1 Skype 0
I just attempted to use Skype to access my voicemails using the Tone keypad. No luck after 4 tries. Tones sounded OK on my end, but not recognized
properly by distant end. Tried the same with Crystal Voice. No problem. Worked fine.
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