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Marie-Rose
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What is this creature???
I am going to try and attach this image (so far have not had much luck!!)
Frizkie found it while sweeping around the fifth wheel. It is green, about 3 inches long.
Caterpillar type body with a forked tail. Funny looking head with 2 spikes. At one point
looked like it was "spitting" clear liquid. Did not flipp the forked tail in defence (like a scorpion) Anybody know what it is?
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Marie-Rose
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Oops ... didn't work!!!! To tired to try again!! Will try tomorrow!!!!
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Marie-Rose, if you see Barbie again please tell her I said hi and hope to see her about a month. Gracias.
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Marie-Rose... sounds like a water scorpion... Please email me the photo and I will post here for you! info*at*vivabaja.com or my 'baja4me' email if
you have it.
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neilm
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If you do a Google 'Image' search
for water scorpion; you'll find pages and pages of pics...
kinda cool
Neil
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Speaking of water scorpions...
Did you know that there is a scorpion native to Baja California that lives on beaches and can remain under salt water for 40 or more minutes at a
time?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Did you know that there is a scorpion native to Baja California that lives on beaches and can remain under salt water for 40 or more minutes at a
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Well, so much for drowning the little sumb-tches.
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Has anyone tried soaking them in Pacifico or a margarita for the 40 minute time limit???
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jide
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hey vgabndo
I found this one at night, a few feet from the water at ensenada San Juanico , is this what you're talking about?
[Edited on 1-19-2006 by jide]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Did you know that there is a scorpion native to Baja California that lives on beaches and can remain under salt water for 40 or more minutes at a
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When Mike Humfreville showed us (in the Viva Baja van, 2001) the location of their hut at Las Cuevitas (north of La Gringa, L.A. Bay)... we saw a
small scorpion right near the sea edge, on the rocky beach.
When Jide and I were walking back out of Ca?on el Cajon (Apr., 2004) we saw dozens of 'water scorpions' where the stream disappeared into the desert
sand... I had never seen them before... ugly guys!
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It is really tough for even the experts to identify the many different scorpions.
The late Gary Polis, whom many will remember lost his life underestimating the sudden weather changes in the BOLA, was probably the Baja master.
A lot of his work was in studying the density of scorpions. He published the names of several scorpions who inhabit the inter-tidal zone.
Opistophthalmus litoralis
Centruroides exilicauda
Mesobuthus martensi
Euscorpius carpathicus
Vaejovis littoralis
Vaejovis, however, was found to be exceptionally dense. Up to a dozen examples per square meter were observed.
Intrestingly, even though many scorpions can survive up to twelve hours under water, the non-tidal zone critters seem to be able to do it as well as
their aquatic cousins.
I suspect that the scorpion pictured above is one of the Hadrurus's. they get their name from their very thick tail. There are many different types.
Then again he could be an Anuroctonus phaiodactylus named for his "dusky fingers".
Here's some more of interest.
http://www.science.marshall.edu/fet/euscorpius/Scorpion%20Sy...
Maybe if I live to be 150 I'll get a chance to understand these amazing critters more thoroughly.
[Edited on 1-20-2006 by vgabndo]
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Marie-Rose
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I've sent the pics to David. Waterscorpion is not what it is. This little guy is green and more like a caterpillar body. Unfortunately the picture
does not show the forked tail.
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The first of two photos...
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The second photo... these both were pre-reduced in size.
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Looks like some type of lepidopterus larva by the three sets of pro-legs and drab color (probably a moth species). The clear liquid it regurgitated is
often a defense mechanism. Best I can do with the photos. Can't figure out the "appendage" on the end though? The larva will not attain "true" legs
until metamorphosis; in this case egg>larva>pupa>adult = complete lifecyle.
FYI: An ancient species of water scorpion, a six-legged creature called Hibbertopterus, was about 5 feet long and 3 feet wide, and died out about 250
million years ago. This suggests that our earliest land-walking ancestors were giant, slow moving water scorpions at the time they left their aquatic
environments to colonize the land.
[Edited on 01/01/06 by bugdude]
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Marie-Rose
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It was aprox. 1.5- 2 inches long and the body was not rounded ... definitely caterpillar shape. It did not have legs that I could count!! (I
think!!!)
[Edited on 2006-1-20 by Marie-Rose]
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Early pupating stage of the lime green chupa cabra. Usually found in the decaying skulls of their hosts. Don't touch the forky thing that is where
the venom is.
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Marie-Rose
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I'm not finding anything on "chupa cabra" when I google it. Any more pics or info??
Is it dangerous?
[Edited on 2006-1-21 by Marie-Rose]
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If you don't own sheep, I wouldn't worry about it.
Now if you're dealing with this, it gets a little messier
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vgabndo
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Marie-rose
Does your leg feel like it's getting longer?
See: Below
http://skepdic.com/chupa.html
You didn't find it in Google 'cause it was not spelled correctly.
[Edited on 1-21-2006 by vgabndo]
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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