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capn.sharky
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Mas en Loreto y Loreto Bay
Hola Nomads....Got home last night from another 30 days in Loreto. You will love this great new idea Loreto Bay has...remember they promised a
desalinazation plant and a black water processing plant. Also remember, this is stuff I have verified by those who should know--but that I have not
seen first hand. #1---they would like to pump their crappy water into a lagoon located behind the project. They will then fill the lagoon with carp
(yes, I said CARP) who they insist will eat all the bad stuff out of the water and purify it. #2 Ecologically responsible Loreto Bay wants to cut
some canals out of the beach so more homes can be located on the waterfront (thus charging even more for their already overpriced crappy homes. Now,
I know carp eat the poo poo of other fish and are bottom feeders, but this idea is so far out as to be only thought of by Canadians on Pot. As for
the canals, fortunately for Loreto, they would have to get this by the Park Service and Profeppa---and they are manned by good, clear thinking
Mexicans with some education. Loreto Bay has brought in another 250 workers from out of the area--this time from Tijuana. We now have about a
thousand workers walking the streets of Loreto on Saturday afternoon until Monday Morning with nothing to do. Their women are in Guadalarja or
Tijuana and they are there for three months at a time. Talk about problems. For the most part, they seem to be nice men and stay out of trouble.
But, with nothing to do but drink, I am sure there will be trouble in the future. Again, I have nothing against most Canadians, but I am totally
against Loreto Bay and can't wait until the next earthquake or Hurricane hits the area. More to come, but I am off to a couple of doctor appointments
that I had to come home to California for. Give me your thought on the above---if you have any. Happy trails, Capn. Sharky
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elizabeth
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I can just see the "fish of the day" on the menu at the Inn at Loreto Bay....
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bajarich
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It sound like a big load of crap to me. 6000 houses are going to make a lot of crap for those carp who are going to make a lot of carp crap.
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Dianamo
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What I think about the Loreto Bay development
Crap.......oh I mean carp!
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Capt. George
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Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!
Carp con po-po y espegetti, yum-yum.
Good luck Loreto on a south wind....
Pobre Baja...the mongol hordes( aka: baby-boomers) have arrived.
Capt. George
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Skeet/Loreto
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Thanks Sharky for the Excellent report on Carp!!
The Lagoon you are talking about must be down where the Raod starts up the Hill??
When the Workers came in to build the new presidente in Nopollo, there were about 40 Hutos ran out of Town because they were spreading Disaese among
the Locals. Better be careful where you go to the bathroom!!
I would notlike to here about the Floating Crap after a good South Storm hits>.
Oh Well.. We shall see , sooner or later, Who Knows??? The Shadow Doo!
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elizabeth
I can just see the "fish of the day" on the menu at the Inn at Loreto Bay.... |
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turtleandtoad
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When those carp eat all that crap they don't hold it in. They have to crap too, you know.
So you've changed human crap to carp crap. You've still got a lot of crap on your hands. The a**hole it comes out if is immaterial.
crap in - crap out. Sounds like some programmers I know
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backninedan
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Maybe they can sell "Pond-O-Poo" as lake front
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Pompano
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carpe diem...redneck Loretoism for 'fish of the day'.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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vandenberg
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"NEVER" heard so much crap. Literally.
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David K
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Thanks Sharky!!!
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flyfishinPam
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I don't believe it
...doesn't sound right although it makes for fun discussion. Sharkey there must be more to it than that. Perhaps the carp pond will be filled with
treated wastewater? and the golf course will be irrigated with the same? I do know about the canals and that proposal is true but still needs
approval, but the carp eating ALL of the waste? I don't believe it you must have misunderstood something. And are they really going to introduce a
new species into the water system? I doubt they'll be able to. (get premission)
[Edited on 2-6-2006 by flyfishinPam]
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flyfishinPam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capn.sharky
We now have about a thousand workers walking the streets of Loreto on Saturday afternoon until Monday Morning with nothing to do. Their women are
in Guadalarja or Tijuana and they are there for three months at a time. Talk about problems. For the most part, they seem to be nice men and stay
out of trouble. But, with nothing to do but drink, I am sure there will be trouble in the future. |
With the exception of their women being in guad or TJ, sounds like a perfect description of over 75% of the Loretano men already here!! I know this
is a fact, not because I am married to one of them (mine's from ACA) but I employ them.
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Don Alley
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#4: Loreto Bay is looking to buy ranches in the mountains. For the water, maybe?
With the workers, and other increases in population, will crime increase?
There was another burglary on our little block. Third one I know of in the last year or so. 
Oh, and a dead body was found up near El Bajo. Rumor has it it was a murdered LB worker.
[Edited on 2-6-2006 by Don Alley]
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Pompano
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There has been a steady increase in crime here too over the last 12 months. Armed robbery, murder, arson, burglary. It is definitely not the same
old Baja...by a long shot.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by turtleandtoad
When those carp eat all that crap they don't hold it in. They have to crap too, you know.
So you've changed human crap to carp crap. You've still got a lot of crap on your hands. The a**hole it comes out if is immaterial.
crap in - crap out. Sounds like some programmers I know |
crap in and crap out
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elizabeth
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All joking aside, sewage ponds are commonly used for recycling effluent, but they aren't just sewage going into a lagoon or other holding area to be
eaten by carp. Typically the water is highly treated prior to ponding (or in some cases in constructed wetlands). Typically, there is grit removal,
clarification, biofiltration, ammonia removal, filtration, chlorination, dechlorination and then the effluent goes to ponds for recycling. So, the
questions to be asked really have to do with level of planned treatment before ponding, removal of pathogens, etc. And...if carp are non-native, then
that is a big environmental question. I know, I know, no jokes about non-native species in Loreto Bay...o.k., just good ones...good jokes, that is.
[Edited on 2-7-2006 by elizabeth]
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Bruce R Leech
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why don't the people just put the carp in there toilets and emanate all that other pluming?
we could call it the carp crapper
Bruce R Leech
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capn.sharky
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Typically the water is highly treated prior to ponding (or in some cases in constructed wetlands). Typically, there is grit removal, clarification,
biofiltration, ammonia removal, filtration, chlorination, dechlorination and then the effluent goes to ponds for recycling.
Elizabeth---this is all too complicated for me to understand. However, seems reasonable to me to believe that the lagoon would be better left alone.
Why don't they ship the black water up to Canada and treat it there? Why don't they just get out of Baja altogether. And take all their carp with
them.
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