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bajarich
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When Does a Town Become "Too Touristy"?
You've all said it at one time or another, "That town's too touristy for me". When does a town cross the line from just a few t-shirt shops to
becomming another Mazatlan, Cabo, or Cancun. Is it the point where people start flying in for weeklong visits, or the building of large hotels and
condos. Whats your opinion?
[Edited on 2-12-2006 by bajarich]
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bajajudy
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Well lets face it, we are all tourist here. Whether we live here or only visit.
I think that the density of multi-family dwellings, including temporary(i. e. hotel rooms) is what does it.
Los Cabos got a lot of international recognition when the APEC meeting was here. Now there are investors here from Japan, China. I hear more and
more European accents around town.
To compare San Lucas to Cancun is not really fair IMHO. Although those two always come up as...."we will never let this development become another
Cancun or Cabo". I personally couldnt stand Cancun the one time I was there. I arrived at about midnight and was in a rental car headed for Tulum by
noon the next day. San Lucas has the marina and as I have said many times, if you get in a car and drive for 30 minutes you can be in the middle of
nowhere. Your rental car company may not like where you have taken their car but you will be in a place of peace and quiet. I didnt see that option
in Cancun.
Ok enough of that.
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capn.sharky
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Too Touristy
When the mexican population can no longer afford to live in town it has become too touristy. Another tip off is if there is a McDonalds or any U.S.
fast food chain opening up a store there. Also, if it has more than two Pemex stations.....more than one bank....and all the shops will accept VISA
and other credit cards. A few dead dogs left in the street is a good sign that it is not too touristy. Also a good sign....the entire beach is
availible to everyone and there is no nude bathing. There will not be a large Marina filled with Yachts and people will yell "Ep" to each other.
Finally, the foreign population will at least be attempting to learn Spanish not the other way around. Oh--and loud mufflers or no mufflers on the
cars is also a good sign.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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bajajudy
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Sharkey
One of the things that I am happy to report is that one of our best selling categories is Spanish for Gringos....Several different titles and levels
of Spanish.
Is that a start?
Ojala
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Pompano
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When the main topic of conversation is NOT how bad the road is... or when the red tecate cans left at the roadside disappear as hazard signs...or when
those idiotic daytime lights on on-coming traffic destroy all the old Baja Road warning signs to each other...or the left turn signal ahead of you
saying it's okay to pass. What? You say you don't know about those things? Then you are where it's too touristy already.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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capn.sharky
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Bajajudy---Que Bueno. It just takes practice, practice, pratice. I just love to conjugate the verbs. Hope all is well in San Jose del Cabo. By the
way, I bought one of those beautiful baskets the indians were selling out front. They were quite a bargain. Mine was the rattlesnake basket and is
for good luck. So hopefully, my good luck will allow me to visit with you and your husband again in the future.
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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Porky Pig
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when the first U.S. or Canadian real estate person moves in
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Baja Bernie
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Pomp
Guess Baja Norte is beyond hope--I have not seen a Tecate warning/detour sign in a few years. Okay to pass seldom anymore. And I am afraid that many
gringos (but not on the board) have no clue as to these modern highway signs.
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Dianamo
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too-oooo touristy
for me it's when I have to go to some anonymous company, sign up in advance, to go fishing on a fancy charter boat. I prefer to go down to the dock
and find a local with to go with! Also, when Ruth's Chris  steak house is on
the main tourist route....that is too touristy for me!
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Pompano
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The Running of the Pigs
Today in Mulege just 'might' be a little too touristy. But fun anyway. It's time once again for the umpteenth annual Pig Race. The SPCA, Sierra
Club, PETA, DOAR, Vegans Unlimited, Chuleta Society, and Greenpeace are chaperoning. (The old days of using corncobs and kerosene are gone...I
think?)
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Bruce R Leech
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it seem like for most people I talk to it is when the first person moves in after they do. 
Bruce R Leech
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comitan
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When you go into the local tienda and theres more gringos than mexicans.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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Tucker
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When people refer to it by initials, ie: TJ, GN, etc. Half the initialized towns posted here, I don't recognize, nor do I want to.
\"I think it would be a good idea.\"
-- Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
it seem like for most people I talk to it is when the first person moves in after they do. |
Think you hit it right on the head there Bruce--
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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Packoderm
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"When Does a Town Become "Too Touristy"?"
It's when civic support of tourism takes priority over the support of otherwise every day life issues for the locals. What percent of the local
workforce's job description is to cater to tourists as opposed to producing something tangible? The real shame is that the Mexican economy widely
excludes the Mexican people from the experience of being tourists in their own beautiful country.
On an aside, which city or town was the first tourist town in the world's history?
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vgabndo
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Pompano
Having trusted my life many times to a flashing left turnsignal on a truck, I am now VERY MUCH more careful. Twice now I have, on those very rare
occasions when it is possible, pulled out to pass a bus with a flashing left signal only to find that the driver was saying hello to his buddy coming
the other way in an identical bus. (with his left signal flashing)
Heavy on the pucker factor! 
I think I'd answer the original question with: When my host treats me more like a wallet with feet, than a welcome guest.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Bruce R Leech
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I think I'd answer the original question with: When my host treats me more like a wallet with feet, than a welcome guest.
vgabndo that is a good one I gotta remember that on.
Bruce R Leech
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Pompano
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vgabundo...those left turn flashing lights are also to give notice to oncoming traffic that..."I am wide, take notice and give me roooooommm!"
Daytime headlights on were a notice to oncoming traffic of problems/danger ahead...most likely a wreck or livestock on the road. The dang Canadian
always-on headlights helped to ruin that old custom. Sorry, Canucks, I like you but that's a bad deal for The Baja Road.
Also, remember those tapering lines of rocks left behind in the road by an recent accident...never could pass one of those barricades up without
tossing them over to the side of the road. Now, THAT was dangerous!
Our custom on the old chuckholed pavement was to take our half right out of the middle when no traffic was present...which was almost all the time.
The chuckholes were huge...some hiding wrecked Volkswagon Bugs.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Skeet/Loreto
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When the Road which use to take 5 days from TJ to Loreto gets paved, TV comes in, Telephones arrive, some Nut builds a 3 million dollar Monstrosity
next to your Palapa on the Beach, then wants to start an Association, close off the Beach so that the Locals can no longer drive directly to the
Cathouse,or clean their Daily Catch of fish!!
Tha is why I now live on the Wide open Plains of the Panhandle of Texas!!!
Skeet/Loreto
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eetdrt88
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hows the fishin in the Panhandle?
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