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batman
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propane
Can I take propane into mexico?
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David K
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Little camping bottles, a 5 gallon bottle or a tank truck?
You can take the first two... probably not the tank truck!
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MrBillM
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Propane Tanks
For many years, up to and including last week, I transported Filled propane tanks (5-7.5-10 Gal) into Baja with never a question or challenge.
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Bruce R Leech
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I asked a bordergard and he told me that as long as it is in a proper tank.
he added that it is vary dangerous to transport the gas without the tank.
sounds like pretty good advice to me
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Barry A.
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Odd shaped, small propane tanks------
I have 3 strangly shaped propane tanks with the old-style filler valves. 2 are about 3 gal, and 1 is probably about 2 gal.
Because of the old-style valves, I cannot get them filled in the USA.
Can I take these tanks to TJ, Tacate, or Mexicali and will they fill them for me?
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Bruce R Leech
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they will fill them here OK. they will put gas into anything you can Carry in
Bruce R Leech
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Dave
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You are, just don't know it.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
he added that it is vary dangerous to transport the gas without the tank.
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An OPD restricts fill to 80% so with a 5 gallon tank that's 4 gallons, or a shade over 15 liters. In Mexico, when you fill a 5 gallon they charge you
for 18 liters. That's more than a 16% surcharge.
And you guys thought PEMEX was rippin' you off? 
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
he added that it is vary dangerous to transport the gas without the tank.
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An OPD restricts fill to 80% so with a 5 gallon tank that's 4 gallons, or a shade over 15 liters. In Mexico, when you fill a 5 gallon they charge you
for 18 liters. That's more than a 16% surcharge.
And you guys thought PEMEX was rippin' you off? |
When I get gas, they charge me what the meter says-
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Dave
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I get 'em filled at Zeta Gas in Rosarito. Last time I brought in 5/ 5 gallons. You prepay. The receipt said I paid for 90 liters. 
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Barry A.
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Mexican propane tanks-----
Tanks procured in Mexico don't have the "OPD" safety device (do they), so you can cram 18 liters into a 5 gal tank, es verdad?? You only know it is
full when the "thumb" valve hisses liquid gas, right??
If you have an American USA tank, then you are only getting about 15 liters because of the OPD valve, and probably getting ripped off, as Dave says,
if they charge you for 18 liters.
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
I get 'em filled at Zeta Gas in Rosarito. Last time I brought in 5/ 5 gallons. You prepay. The receipt said I paid for 90 liters. |
And what did the meter say?
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bajajudy
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More or less.....GAS
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Interesting, where do you get gas? I've always bought it by the Kilo filled on a scale, unless they're delivering to a stationary tank, in which case
the truck does meter it by the liter. Which I *believe* means you get more bang for the buck if have them you fill your stationary tanks in cold
weather when the liquid is densor. ;>
--Larry |
Is that true...it does make sense. So I should get my tank filled before it gets any warmer....muy interestante. I love this kind of info!
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wornout
And what did the meter say? |
The meter never stops. It's an assembly line with two tanks being filled at once. He might finish one while another is half-full then attach a new one
then go back and finish off the other. Besides, the meter doesn't matter. You pay according to the size of the tank...period.
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by wornout
And what did the meter say? |
The meter never stops. It's an assembly line with two tanks being filled at once. He might finish one while another is half-full then attach a new one
then go back and finish off the other. Besides, the meter doesn't matter. You pay according to the size of the tank...period. |
Bring them to San Felipe - they reset the meter after every tank. Of course, we don't know how acurate the meter is but the figures seem right when
they are done. Of course, exchange tanks are flat rated.
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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turtleandtoad
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FYI,
In the southern climes, they don't use propane (C3H8), they use butane (C4H10).
So if you fill up your RV's propane tank in southern Mexico or Central America, make sure you use it up or drain it out before you return to the US as
liquid butane will not become a gas at about 32 F. Whereas propane can be used to -44 F.
I don't think this applies to Baja Sur, although I could be wrong.
Butane is also what they use in those "throw-away" camp bottles and cigarette lighters.
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have even had the "throw away" bottles refilled without a second thought.
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turtleandtoad
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Pomp,
You need Natural Gas in that ice fishing shack. It works down to -244F!
Or; as you probably heard from your wife: "What kind of fool goes fishing at -55 degrees" ????
On Edit; OOPS it's -258.7 for natural gas
[Edited on 3-20-2006 by turtleandtoad]
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Bob and Susan
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MrBillM
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More BANG for The Buck (or Peso)
Yes, you will get more propane into a tank before reaching the overflow vent in colder weather. Just make sure it isn't a whole lot colder.
I once filled two 7.5 gal tanks in Yucca Valley on a Winter weekend with snow on the ground and the air temp in the high 20s. Heading for Baja the
following weekend when the weather was warmer, just below Salton City, the tanks started venting off excess gas. Since they were loaded at the nose
of the truck bed, I had to pull over and unload the truck to get to them and drain off some gas.
BTW, it is illegal (at least in California) to transport filled propane tanks inside an enclosed camper shell. That's why I load them at the front.
[Edited on 3-20-2006 by MrBillM]
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turtleandtoad
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Pompano,
Been there, done that! Only in Saratoga NY, and not at -55!!!
I much prefer Lake of the Woods in the summer, and also around the Soux Narrows.
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