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Bajaboy
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Sierra de la Giganta Expedition
Hey Everyone-
Check out the following at http://www.kpbs.org/Radio/DynPage.php?id=793
KPBS is teaming up with the San Diego Natural History Museum for a expedition to Southern Baja California in November. The team which includes over 30
scientists from the U.S. and Mexico will spend three weeks in a relatively unexplored mountainous area called Sierra de la Giganta. The goal of the
expedition is to survey the unusual mammals, birds, insects, snakes and plants that live there. That data will be used to design a conservation plan
by Mexican and American conservation groups to encourage the Mexican government to protect the region.
KPBS reporter Eric Niiler - armed with a notebook, microphone, and camera - will be joining the expedition from November 7 through November 16.
Starting Monday, November 10, Niiler plans to send daily updates and photos from the expedition to KPBS.
Niiler will also be joined by two videographers, who will document the expedition for a KPBS television program set to air in 2004.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Bajaboy: Have you been able to determine if the group is supported by the Sierra Club and whether are not the Scientist are open minded people with
not political Agend. It would been interesting to see a background resume on each one.
Sounds like a good project, It tood me 10, years and 10 flights around that mountain to see 3 Big Horn Sheep.{1986}
I would look forward to an unbaisied and Factual Report.Skeet/Loreto
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Ski Baja
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Bighorn Sheep
Skeet, we have to get together for a trip up there. I know a place where they keep em in a corral to protect em from the Pumas.
And, you are correct in your question regarding their background. I have a feeling that in spite of their being scientists, Achademic Anarchist
would be sick at what all these people are about to do.
I can only pray the guides don't show them all of the areas. It would be a shame.
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Their stated goal is to learn more about the area in question so they can help to PROTECT it! It is a pity that there are many for whom the glass is
always half empty. Cheer up and think positive, for a change!!!!
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Click here for a list of people involved
http://www.kpbs.org/Radio/DynPage.php?id=798
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Click here for updates on all the stuff the evil scientists are learning
http://www.kpbs.org/Radio/DynPage.php?id=797
of course FONATUR (mexican government) will probaly use the info to build a four lane highway for easy gringo access to the golf resort/marina that
they will add to thier big plan
egl
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update
here's for the badmouthing "uninformed" //www.sdnhm.org/research/aguaverde/log11-9.html#five
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"That data will be used to design a conservation plan by Mexican and American conservation groups to encourage the Mexican government to protect the
region."
What a joke! The only way to "encourage" Mexico to protect it's enviorns is to stick a gun to its head.
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Ski Baja
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There goes the neighborhood
I can already picture the spoiled , rich American tree hugging coke heads with their signs along the Carretera. Save the "Eucnide Tenella". I think
maybe if they were to go poke around in Nopolo, they might do some good. Otherwise, it's just another crock of dung to go on a paid vacation to
somewhere that isn't particularly any of their business. Excluding the Mexicans tagging along of course.
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If and when a time comes to take a stand, would you rather do it with ignorance? "The goal of the expedition is to survey the unusual mammals, birds,
insects, snakes and plants that live there." Mines, agave fields, cattle and sheep, grazing, sand and rock quarries are a few of the threats.
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Wow-It was not my intention to start a political discussion. Nope, I thought I was sharing a great opportunity to travel along with a group as they
explore a remote part of Baja.
Didn't your mama tell you that politics and religion are not good topics to discuss at a party?
Viva la fiesta!
Zac
[Edited on 11-10-2003 by Bajaboy]
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Skeet/Loreto
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Are a Few of the Theats"?
Sir I would certainlly hope that you would not Jump to concolusions by including me as being uniformed about the Mountain!
May I be so bold as to ask you to supply the date and time that you walked the Trail around that Mountain?
I was hoping that some of the people who were involved in the Kalmath Basin Fisco would not be involed along with the infamous Sierra Club in creating
another False story.
It would be bery interesting to see if any of those "Investigators' have ever been to the Mountain with the Exception of Tim Means.
I would suggest that one person you migh talked to is one "Harry Crosby" and a few others that have a PHL{Dr. of Life}
I would also hope that you would look at the whole study from the Mexicano instead of Americano side of the issue.
Please do not make it a view that meets any pre judged notions spouted by the Envior-nuts or the Sierra Club.Skeet/Loreto.
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nd Others.
Please Please Please !! Any of you people going into this Area. Have REspect for one of the Last True places of Privacy!!
J. R. There is one beautifull small Water hole surronded by small trees that is fantastic.
It is my hope that he peop[le doing the survey are people of respect.Common Sense. We will only know after their report and Vido Stories.
Let Us all Hope that it will not be like CBS "The Reagans''
Please forgive me for being so bold but I do not want this thing to end up like so many of the so called Investigations end=not truthful Skeet/Loreto
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Here we go
Americans, as a rule, tend to go into somewhere they don't belong, perhaps even with good intentions in the beginning and turn it into something
different than it was. And generally, unless you consider developing the entire planet good and charging 3 to 10 times more for something than it is
worth, it turns to "caca". (put that one in myself!) . And then they bail.
Here's where I tinckle off all of you but, do you think that other countries are blind when it comes to who has the most corrupt government, one of
the worst education systems and highest rate of drug consumption, crime and addiction out of most anywhere on the planet.
All of the politicians lie publicly on a regular basis, the last Presidential election was a farce and now, an Action Figure for Governor. The court
systems have absolutely nothing to do with truth, honesty, right and wrong but who has the most powerful attorney.
The rest of the world sees the U.S. as the most ridiculous country on the planet. And with fairly obvious reasons. We can't even get along with
each other on a "Baja" message board of all things.
Yet we still insist on imposing our somewhat "barbaric" ways ( divorce rate and # of perverts ) on other countries because we have more money and
a superior military.
Don't want to get sidetracked here but what is going on in that area down south is no different than any other endeavor/invasion of this type.
As far as using the information they find out down there, what if that Mansa de Plansa they find that has been curing cancer and most all other
ailments for centuries is declared dangerous and illegal by some "U.S.FDA beaurocrat" and instead of them being able to get cured, they get put in
jail.
Don't know what this word will be replaced with but,! intercourse that.
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Ski Baja
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Thank you
And by the way BB, no matter any of our political views on this subject, I am sure we will all be glued to their story so muchas gracias.
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Don't know why you folks are gettin' your panites in a wad over this,
I will state these folks with the Phd's behind their name know what they are doing. Hell, it"s their vocation.
I know several of them and can only grieve that I'm not on the treck. Good will come from this! Believe me!
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JIMMY!!!!
I believe.
What these people are doing is very important work. We have to know what it is we (humans) have if we (humans) are going to take care of it.
I would like to know who else is more qualified then these folks that are on this trip.
Trust you are feeling well!! Say hello to Sally & Char
Matthew C. Pebley
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Jimmy: Thanks for your Post and Info. I will take your word that these folks know what thet are doing and as you follow the Mexicano Custom of
Speaking for them I will await their report.
In my Heart I would prefer that they leave it alone and let the People Amimals, and birds alone. It is so Isolated and beautiful. Thanks Skeet/Loreto
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Respect
Jimmy, I as well respect what you have to say. If you have confidence in what these guys are doing then I am probably wrong in the way I think about
this.
I will not say another negative word about what they are doing. In fact, if all goes well, I may be seeing them in about a week. Hope to stop by
your place as well. Bamboo, remember ?
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MY movement has been somewhat restricted since our hurricanes and I havn't looked at the bamboo recently. It always seems to survive.
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