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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 07:25 PM
CARRYING VHF RADIOS FOR SAFETY


I have a good suggestion for baja travellers and lots of our visitors followed my advice and are very glad they did! I suggest buying a VHF radio, either base or even easier is a handheld radio. Everyone on the coast moniters channel 16 and it is an excellent saftey idea for when you break down, get sick or are in trouble. Here in baja the group Proteccion Civil (like a volunteer help squad) also monitor the radio and are quick to respond. When friends are coming our way, they call me on the radio if they have trouble on the road. Also it's a great thing to take fishing, or kayaking as well just to be safe. think about it and make it part of your baja safety kit. (West Marine often has cheap and good radios on special)



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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 07:45 PM


Shari: Excellent Advice and a beautifull web Site;

Bill and Betty Riffe of Loreto have mantained on channell 16 for many years out of Loreto, checking in each morning with the Sailing Vessels at Port Escondido and all vessels under way.
Many emergencies, help has been given over the years.
Keep up the Good Work.

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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 09:57 PM


I always have a handheld VHF with us when we drive down. You can get a inexpensive one for about $100.00
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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 09:59 PM


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I always have a handheld VHF with us when we drive down. You can get a inexpensive one for about $100.00
What is the range?
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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 10:08 PM
Midland Radio has one cheaper than-----


-------$100, and it is a 5 watt, which is pretty powerful for a handheld. Type in "The Sportsman's Guide" .

I have had excellent performance from Midland, over the years.
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[*] posted on 5-15-2006 at 10:50 PM


When I"m near Puerto Escondido I like to listen in to the sailor's VHF net every morning at 8:00am. Just listen to channel 16 at that time and someone will direct you to the right channel which I think is channel 21 or 22. They have lots of good info. La Paz also has their own net but I don't know the details. They discuss things like tides,weather, who needs help,who needs crew, jokes or just anything to do with sailing in Baja-its fun.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 04:46 AM


I have 2 of the Midland VHF radios. They are $59 each in the Sportsmans Guide and the Overtons boat catalog. Run off of 4 AA batteries.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 05:47 AM


overtons has em.

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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 07:49 AM
Capt. Mike (and all others)---


------keep watching "The Sportsman's Guide"----they DO get the Midland Nautico Radios in from time to time, and they are under $100. That is where I bought mine.

Better yet, get on their mailing list.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 07:55 AM


West Marine has Uniden M72 handheld "From $39 US" Also some at $99.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 08:11 AM


Careful of the cheaper ones that have less power output.
Go with the 5 watt handhelds for use as anything but a convenience.
When you need to be heard, you want to carry as far as you can.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 09:28 AM
Uniden/West Marine


West Marine sells a couple of Uniden-made VHF radios that will interface with the Uniden WAM mic. This is essentially a wireless remote for a full sized VHF radio. I put one inside my Lance and I can range about 100 feet from the rig and still transmit and receive at a full 25 watts. Came with a charging stand that works with 12v or 110v. NiMH cells. Also has a belt clip and wrist lanyard.

If I had decided to mount the transceiver that "talks" to the remote control on the outside of the Lance, it might get even more range. But I wanted it inside and use it for listening and transmitting while sitting outside.

I also use it while driving, if necessary, with the antenna at about a 30 degree angle on the roof.

You can find the compatible radios on sale for as low as 130.00 and the remote mic is another 90.00 or so.

I would not count on a handheld for any emergency unless you are certain that other listeners are within 5-10 miles. That's rarely certain in Baja.

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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 10:05 AM
25 watts vs 8 watts


VHF is line of site. Doesn't matter how much wattage the radio puts out. If your down in a canyon, you can't talk to anyone. We use handheld radios in aircraft that can do 50 miles at less then 2 watts. Why? Because we are line of site. I have used my marine VHF with an antenna on the roof and have talked with the Coasties 25 miles away.
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 01:38 PM


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VHF is line of site. Doesn't matter how much wattage the radio puts out. If your down in a canyon, you can't talk to anyone. We use handheld radios in aircraft that can do 50 miles at less then 2 watts. Why? Because we are line of site. I have used my marine VHF with an antenna on the roof and have talked with the Coasties 25 miles away.


Good call on the line of sight feature of VHF radio. With your roof antenna you can extend the horizon a considerable distance. In theory, the higher the better. Be careful though of over-long antennae leads which can be a problem. If all else fails, climb a hill.




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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 02:07 PM
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I thought VHF was illegal except on a vessel - not sure how/if this is enforced in Mexico (SCT used to do sporadic inspections of homes in the late 90s looking for illegal VHF antennas, so I am told - this in the days when getting a phone took years).
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 02:07 PM


Yes as to line of site and climbing a hill but when you are miles offshore in tall waves and spray or within an area with trees and buildings partially blocking the line of site, more wattage does help. Even the coast guard doesn't consider the 2 watt handhelds as sufficient safety gear.

Given the same line of site situation at long range, more wattage will also put out a stronger, more readable signal.

Don't cheap out if you will use it for your safety.
I doubt any pilot would be comfortable with nothing but a 2 watt VHF to depend on !
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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 02:22 PM


I forgot how hard it is to climb a hill when you are in the midst of tall waves and spray. Good point.



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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 02:50 PM


I've talked to a friend on the beach in Puerto Penaso from my home - base set transmitting on 5w, he was on a hand held - 1 or 5w - over 85 miles across Sea of Cortez. I'm at about 450ft elevation with a 6ft antena



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[*] posted on 5-16-2006 at 03:06 PM


2 more examples, La Paz 2000' 25W base to San Carlos Marina boat.

Conception Bay 25W base on boat to San Carlos Marina on boat.

Don't know what these distances are but are considerable.




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