Barry A.
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Much of what you say is true------------
-------but, the answer is not to let the ILLEGALS keep coming, it is to increase the quota on future LEGALS-----AND GAIN CONTROL OF THE BORDERS!!!!!!
Very few advocate actually kicking the illegals out----just stem the tide of them coming IN, and make the ILLEGALS already here EARN their right to be
here!!! Why some try to confuse this issue with exagerations is beyond me-----lets just get it done!!!
Without the "rule of law" we are headed downhill, and fast. It is the "rule of Law" that makes us different, don't you know.
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Sharksbaja
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Interesting stance Jesse
now simmer down
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If i want to work for a year or so, i go to the U.S. and work illegaly, if i want to migrate to a better nation, i would go to Canada, Australia,
Spain, or other nations that have good economies, life is better, migrants are appreciated, and it takes half the time or less.
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Maybe it's attitudes like that that "yanked the chain" so to speak for critics here. I haven't heard so much criticism of the Mexicans in this
country until the mass rallies held this month. It sort of seemed like "pie in the eye" to me. I can't grasp the positive message they were trying to
send.
As a proponent for a mixed multi-cultural society I take offense to the notion that Canada or the others are better nations to settle down in. Maybe
you are right Jesse, but our social and cultural comforts are being rapily absorbed by the new affluent Mexico. To this end many share the same
fundamental mindset. Meaning, they have computers, SUVs, homes, businesses, healthy families etc. I believe lacking the U.S. as a neighbor you may
have never become a Nomad using a hi-speed connection.  Get my drift?
Considering that Mexico has the Worlds' 14th strongest economy leads one to believe that maybe the good place to settle down may be a lot closer
than many think.
......Well, maybe if Mexico had a government that was for the people
Just cause our gov't gives ourselves continous black-eyes doesn't mean the average American actually endoses their actions,..................no
matter what Fox News says.
Are you sure you are aiming your condemnation at the right audience?
When the Mexicans in this country acknowledged and celebrated Moms' Day on May 10th I learned something indeed.
mi casa es su casa but mi dia es no sus dia?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Sharksbaja
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uhhhh....well....something......um.....happened........ okidoki
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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David K
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It appears that Jesse deleted his post, and under the newer format of Doug's forum, all the replies below the original remain up... even though they
may make no sense.
The previous format, the entire thread would go away if the 'owner' of the thread (the first post) deleted his post.
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Barry A.
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David-----
------are you saying that my previous post (now the lead post) makes no sense?????
I am deeply offended 
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Debra
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I wish JESSE hadn't deleted his post (if that is what happened) I would be very interested in his views on this subject (I've never known him rant or
be rude, or I might be glad the post was gone.)
JESSE, would you concider putting the post back up?
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comitan
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I also would like to have seen his post, I think we should try to understand his perspective, because he is a very knowledgeable Mexican. I have
always been interested in his posts.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Debra
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comitan, That it was JESSE's post was the only reason I opened it. I don't usually open the Political area at all. Things just seem to get too hot
under the collar here for my tastes.
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JESSE
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I made a rather long post about my opinions on the matter, but you know what, i don't want to start a huge argument, i know its a difficult topic and
some have a very short fuse. Basically, i think the US needs cheap labor, Mexico has it, and wether we like it or not its the best thing we have.
Would you rather see millions of Chinese, Indians, or Turks instead of Mexicans? and would Mexico want to have China, Russia, or Iran right next door?
I think we have a pretty good deal, its not perfect, but its better than the alternatives.
Have a good one folks.
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