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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 07:52 AM
Rosarito Beach- YIKES!!!


3 Officers Among 4 Decapitated in Mexico
Police were responding to a kidnapping report when met by 100 armed men, witnesses say.
By Richard Marosi
Times Staff Writer

June 22, 2006

SAN DIEGO ? Mexican authorities discovered the decapitated bodies of three police officers and a fourth man Wednesday near an empty lot in the seaside town of Rosarito Beach, about 15 miles south of the border.

The officers had gone missing Tuesday after responding to a report of a kidnapping. Witnesses said that the officers were intercepted by about 100 heavily armed, masked men dressed as Mexican federal agents, said a spokesman for the Baja California state attorney general's office.

The men's bodies showed signs of torture. Their heads were found in Tijuana, several miles away. Authorities said the men were the victims of an organized crime hit, the latest in a string of killings or attempted killings of law enforcement officials in Baja California.

Rosarito Beach, a popular weekend destination for Southern Californians, is also a heavily contested transshipment point for drug traffickers.

One of the victims ? Benjamin Fabian Ventura, was the bodyguard of Rosarito Beach's former police chief, Carlos Bowser Miret, who was killed in an ambush slaying last year.

The other dead police officers are Jesus Hernandez Ballesteros and Ismael Arellano Torres. The fourth man was not identified.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 07:58 AM


OK OK this sounds really bad but lets not lose our heads over it. it could have just been a mistake.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 08:06 AM


I got back just in time....Who took the heads to TJ?....:lol:....hope they got paid extra for that....

On a more serious side...this is out of control....so far not really involving tourists at least from what I have read....but the law enforcement is just not there for anyone ...and when it is it is corupt....sounding like IRAQ now....I don't see it getting better at all....
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 08:14 AM


it could be that those heads were just about to fall off anyway.:lol:



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 08:54 AM
Shame on you!


Finding humor in this post is pretty pathetic.
Even my sardonic sense of humor saw nothing funny about this.
It is sad, sad, sad.
Sad for the families.
Sad for Rosarito.
Sad for Baja.
Sad for all of us who love visiting this place.
End of comment!
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:05 AM
Attaboy, Bruce


As one who has been criticized often in the past for finding humor in tragic circumstances, I appreciate and applaud your insensitive offering.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:06 AM


come on thebajarunner lighten up this is just part of life here now and we are going to live with it for a long time. of coarse it is a sad situation but a lot of things in life are that way . we can either huddle up in the corner of our house or move on with our lives. if you don't keep a sense of humor here in Mexico you will go crazy.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:24 AM


Living in Mexico doesn't mean we have to LIKE EVERYTHING that happens here, nor does it mean we should become jaded & disrespectful. Bruce, from previous posts of yours I've read, I'd have expected more sensitivity from you. What the original post said was a horrific tragedy. It tells just what lengths the drug trafficers will go to to continue plying their trade. What would your attitude have been if this had happened in Mulege? You don't know me & probably could give a rats ass, but one post like this wipes out all the respect you'd earned for all the posts you've made in the past that were compassionate & sensitive!
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:32 AM


You have to weigh what this all means, along with everything else - the risks of the highway, the scams, the costs, and yes, the rewards of the beautiful beach at the end of the day. Personally, I'm leaning toward avoiding Baja for a while until -- unless -- things start to change on the other side of the scale. I just got back from hiking, camping and hot springs in the Gila National Forest. Free camping on the river - only one other camper; beautiful natural hot springs right on the river for $3.00/day (for $4 you could camp there); and plenty of unmarked wilderness roads for exploration and adventure. I'll miss Baja, but there's plenty in our own backyard that provides the adventure I seek for much less risk and cost.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:45 AM


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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
...one post like this wipes out all the respect you'd earned for all the posts you've made in the past...


Big time ditto. What an idiototic thing to say, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:55 AM


No disrespect intended here.........but, I have to ask? 100 armed, masked men? in Rosarita? Is this for real? Dave, please tell us what you know.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 09:57 AM
Beware the Speech Police.


Bruce, you have run afoul of the Touchy-Feely Gestapo and their tiresome condemnation of ill thinking. These are the ones who always express politically correct compassionate WORDS while never actually doing anything to address the problems that result in these events. Their "Hearts" always go out to these unfortunates, but their "Actions" are lacking.

Shame, Shame, Shame on you.

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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:18 AM


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No disrespect intended here.........but, I have to ask? 100 armed, masked men? in Rosarita? Is this for real? Dave, please tell us what you know.


Debra,
Which number is important?
100 masked men,
or four mutilated officers?
Yeah, I too wondered about the gang of 100, but that is pretty insignificant to the story, isn't it?
Well, not to some, I guess.
Still a pretty sad deal.
Next week when Baja Vida and I drive down to the observatory we will be by-passing Rosarito.... if for no other reason than respect for the dead.
And, my favorite panaderia is in RB.
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:21 AM


Hmmmm....Over 100 heavily armed men, decapitations...You'd think the Mexican Government would have Ensenada cordoned off with the place crawling with Federales searching for the murderers. Something just doesn't jive as this story should have been all over CNN. Maybe it will be soon enough as this makes the Officials look like Keystone cops...:O



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:30 AM


MrBillM:

While you might find "their tiresome condemnation of ill thinking" ("tiresome") Your statement that "these are the ones who always express politically correct compassionate WORDS while never actually doing anything to address the problems that result in these events" I find "tiresome", borish and without facts of findings. (Just where do you base your facts?) IMHO people that try to find the good in the world usually find that good, others, well? Bruce is man enough to own up to his flipent remark I'm sure (I'm sure he meant no ill-will) Bruce is a man of honor I feel, are you?

Sincerely, Debra (AKA: Touchy Feely Gestapo)




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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:36 AM


More details

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060622-9...




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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:42 AM


I will show a lot more respect when I am convinced that this is not just a story made up by the Gringo Gazette or something like that. for now it reminds me of that movie three heads in a duffel bag. and that was funny



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:51 AM


Sorry Bajarunner....I guess I didn't explaine my thinking. If this really happened (that was my question, the report of 100 masked, armed men pulling into Rosarita seemed unreal, I didn't in my mind get to the next step of the slay officers) If true, It's hard to get my brain around it, coming from a my own feelings about another dead officer, My "Dad" , in the small little town that I live in, it just doesn't "compute" My apoligies.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 10:56 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by Debra
No disrespect intended here.........but, I have to ask? 100 armed, masked men? in Rosarita? Is this for real? Dave, please tell us what you know.


And just how do all of these people get through the checkpoints? Huh?
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[*] posted on 6-22-2006 at 11:15 AM


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Originally posted by thebajarunner
Finding humor in this post is pretty pathetic.
Even my sardonic sense of humor saw nothing funny about this.
It is sad, sad, sad.
Sad for the families.
Sad for Rosarito.
Sad for Baja.
Sad for all of us who love visiting this place.
End of comment!


I'm in agreement with thebajarunner.
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