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cat127
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Leaving Hawaii - Back to Baja
So we are your basic middleaged couple (he's 55 - me 47) - we have been living on the Big Island of Hawaii for 20 years. I am about sick of all the
Haoles (Hawaiian for gringos) moving here from So Cal and trying to make their gated communities and blocking off the beach access.
Up until 5-8 years ago we had party lines in many places.... DSL? forget it until 2 years ago... we lived on solar with catchment....
Okay so I went to San Felipe many years ago a couple of times a year with my family, and then in my 20's to Gonzaga and Cabo to dive.. I want to move
and Baja is one of my big choices! Someone please tell me that it isnt as overun as the stuff I have been reading - I saw CONDOS in San Felipe on the
net for $100K up?????? Condos??? We used to camp there!
Is there anywhere in Baja that is still affordable to live to the regular person? We will be visiting in Dec 06 - and I thought of Mulege, Loreto or
Gonzaga? Any advice is appreciated.
-Cat
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comitan
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You will get all kinds of advise, when you come down make sure you look at La Paz.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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bajabound2005
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Get yourself a good book about Baja (recommendations anyone???) to learn about el clima (the climate) in different areas. It's very hot in the summer
along the Sea of Cortez. Many places are getting built up but we are confident you'll find something. Would be delighted to show you are little part
of the Peninsula, about 20 miles south of Ensenada.
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cat127
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Pretty Familar with the climate on the Sea of Cortez side....
not so much on the Pacific side....
We really had not considered the Pacific side much but I am now researching it too.
-Cat
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longlegsinlapaz
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I have two that I found very helpful....
1) Live Well in Mexico; How to relocate, retire & increase your standard of living, by Ken Luboff/John Muir Publications
2) Baja California; The U.S. Border to Cabo San Lucas by AAA. It is primarily designated as a travel guide, but it has a lot of good info for the
length of the Baja, including some backcountry areas, with maps, distances between everywhere, recommended lodging & restaurants, etc.
You also need to keep in mind what kind of local amenities are important to you; medical, dental, availability of certains foods, imported dairy
products, whatever is important to you! You have your choice between sleepy little fishing villages to more progressive larger towns.
Enjoy your research!!!! The Baja has Hawaii beat all to hell!
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longlegsinlapaz
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Cat127.......Check your U2U
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bajamigo
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Wherever you go in Baja, at least you won't get island fever.
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Bob H
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Cat, seriously check out Mulege. We absolutely love that area. La Paz would be our second choice - but it's getting so big there. Mulege is still a
nice sleepy village that still seems to offer reasonable prices. But, things change so fast now.
Bob H
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cat127
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Mulege is definately on the list... so as I have been here all day researching - dont find one B&B in San Felipe... any suggestions ?
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Capt. George
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go to the little un-gringoed pueblos...what it lacks in the things you "think you need" it makes up for in peace and good people.
lived in Punta Abreojos 2 1/2 yrs..missed family, language and culture. Still ahve a one bedroom casita on the edge of the pueblo..elec, phone, net
de-sal water...full kitchen freezer garage storage and 12 ft klamath 15 Evinrude..
Deborah may offer it for rent if interested
gpurrm@hotmail.com
have a very dear friend lives on Kuaia? Garden Isle always asking me to come over...no interest...heading to Alaska
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Hola Cat, I'm a Canadian married to a local fisherman here in Bahia Asuncion where there are only 3 expats living happily ever after. The climate is
the coolest in the baja which we appreciate and it's a gorgeous beach village where lots and houses are available for very cheap still. We have good
services and stores but no Costo ect. Come and stay with us and we'll show you what's available.
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DanO
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If you liked the climate in Hawaii, you may find the weather on the Pacific side in BCN a tad chilly, and the water downright frigid. For now at
least there are still out of the way places, but the development boom shows no signs of letting up.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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cat127
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I thought that might be the case. The developement boom is slowing down here / pricing has dropped about 20/30% since Jan 06.
I am narrowing down the area to between Puertecitos and Mulege. Cabo was way crowded in 1989/1990 when I was down there last (or whatever the year
Cabo Wabo went in). We can live on solar/genny - no problem. My SO is pretty much "tim the toolman".... (he is a builder here - NOT A CONTRACTOR... he
is in better shape than his young guys!!)
All my pals here who surf all over the world are telling me that the Pacific Side is better. Our water temp here on the Big Island is pretty cool -
comparable temps mainly because deep water right outside the reefs.
Thanks everyone for the advice... if you got more, I am always listening!
-Cat
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cat127
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One more thing - am taking Punta Abreojos in the picture also....
-Cat
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DanO
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There's no surf on the gulf side except for the east cape, by and large. From what I hear, many of the spots down there have the same localism issues
as many in Hawaii. For the Pacific side, which has lots of surf, the bad news is cold water temps, inconsistent wave conditions, treacherous
currents, howling winds, and bad roads. The good news? Cold water temps, inconsistent wave conditions, treacherous currents, howling winds, and bad
roads (heh).
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Capt. George
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ahhh, Bahia Asuncion, Punta Prieta, Hipolito, PA
Asunscion most services available, most people, but still a peaceful place to hang your hat...all of them are...know a few people in each Pueblo.
Don't leave this entire stretch of coast off your list.. Capt g
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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vandenberg
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I'm with Comitan. La Paz in the 80's was my second choice to Loreto. But now, with all the development going on in Loreto, and if I had to choose now,
I would probably pick La Paz. Real Mexican town still, not too big, and prices still affordable.
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cat127
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Believe it or not - one of the big things I am looking forward to is Mexican cooking - FISH TACOS especially! (as opposed to all Asian influenced
cooking here!) I make them here but cant quite get into the same spirit when we are making Lilikoi Margaritas to go with it. Kinda changes the
spirit! Lilikoi is "passion fruit"...
-Cat
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Capt. George
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no great shakes in small Pueblos, very basic fare, but good.
find our own "mexican style" more spicy and tasty then the local stuff.
could be just our taste
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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cat127
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Did I mention although I was an orginal valley girl - yah I used to surf - I am 1/2 mexican? My spanish sucks but as I work on this research all sorts
is coming back, but my SO's spanish is awesome and he is gringo orginally from Kansas.
Someone mentioned localism? Here it is harsh at times unless you speak pidgeon which I have picked up just because there are some words that work way
better in pidegeon that English. Such as DaKine (means that which you cant remember the name for)... ha ha
What is it like there? I always found Mexicans to be the best at hospitality and inclusions rather than exclusions.
-Cat
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