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Bedman
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Pesky Poop Problem!!
It seems that I have built a Seagull - Crow - Buzzard - Pelican Outhouse!!
We haven't had the opportunity to correct the problem, Yet. Befor I blow all my bubblegum money on Rubber Snakes, Plastic Owls, Screening material and
Shiny C/D's hanging from the rafters. I figured it would be wise and forthright to request recommendations from the Sage folks here on a Remedy of the
problem.
Any and all suggestions Greatly appreciated.
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Bedman
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Another shot of the Garage
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Bruce R Leech
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that is one ugly structure. maybe the birds are trying to tell you something
Bruce R Leech
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bancoduo
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
that is one ugly structure. maybe the birds are trying to tell you something
| What do you expect for $10/hr.
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Frank
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Put a ceiling up, then they will have less places to sit and squat.
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Barry A.
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Frank has it right, I am thinking-------
-----but I would go further and restrict bird access to all those stringers by closing up the ends, too. You don't want a mess in the
attic-----------makes things too odorific.
Maybe chicken wire???? so the ventilation continues???
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Bruce R Leech
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lets see, what would look better the bird poop or the chicken wire?
well at least with the chicken wire you could raise some chickens to eat, but you would still have the poop. but it always looks better when it comes
from your own birds
Bruce R Leech
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vgabndo
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Jeez Bruce, I hope you and Bedman are buddies.
I love your idea of having that much elevated deck area, and given the architectural standards of the average Baja community, I think you've done
fine.
Clearly, it will be possible to limit roosing space to the railings and the top of the roof. I would look for the least expensive appropriate sheet
goods and build a ceiling, and as Barry says, close the gable ends too. Ventilation of the enclosed space is very important or you'll cook your roof
covering from the inside, limiting its useful life. I would use gable vents and at least as much square area in frieze block screening. The ceiling
may even reduce temperatures on the deck by eliminating the radiation of heat to the living area from the underside of the sheathing.
In the end, it may be necessary to make removable screen panels you can put up when you are away for extended periods, if that is the case, as I
suspect you have less problem with roosting when there is lots of human activity around the place.
It looks like a perfect "rest area" for both birds and people!
Another thought: If the deck was waterproof, and I assume it has slope, you could just hose it off as required.
Two cents from the Home Inspector.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
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PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Jack Swords
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The owls, CDs, etc. have all be used by boaters for their moored boats with little success. I have seen boats moored for years in the Bay of La Paz
that have monofilament line strung all between the rigging that are poop-free. Seems the birds don't like entanglement with the line and it is not
that visible. They just go somewhere else. Cheap and easy "solution" for that roosting area. Let us know what you eventually do.
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Bajame
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Hire the energizer bunny, turn him on when you leave, he'll keep going, going, going------------------! Another idea! Put the chicken wire on the
inside of the roof, there will be no where for them to roost. You can also find wire that has smaller holes that will even be better.
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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Roberto
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Bedman, if they are roosting on the rafters and doing their business, here is a solution for you - apply to top of rafters, and no more roosting!
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte...
[Edited on 8-17-2006 by Roberto]
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Cypress
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Roberto! Those spikes look tuff! Good idea! I was thinking about a solar powered hot-wire that would tickle their gonads. If they visit/roost at night
it would have to be powered other than solar. Might make 'em poop more than usual when they got the jolt?
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Cincodemayo
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Roberto...The spikes are used extensively by the Washington State Ferry System on all the lighting , terminal roofs and railings so the seagulls don't
land and crap on cars and people walking on the ferrys. They work great.
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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Sharksbaja
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DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Bruce R Leech
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all kidding aside I think you need to learn to live with the Birds. after all they were there first. try painting your thing the same color as the
bird poop or some thing like that. to do anything to make them go away would be like some one moving to Mexico and kicking all of the Mexicans out.
just be glad that you can provide them with a nice perch and a little shade. some food and fresh water would be nice also.
good luck and enjoy your new Friends
Bruce R Leech
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bancoduo
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What do Mexican birds eat?
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Roberto
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
all kidding aside I think you need to learn to live with the Birds. after all they were there first. try painting your thing the same color as the
bird poop or some thing like that. to do anything to make them go away would be like some one moving to Mexico and kicking all of the Mexicans out.
just be glad that you can provide them with a nice perch and a little shade. some food and fresh water would be nice also.
good luck and enjoy your new Friends |
It's not the birds he's worried about, Bruce!
Seriously, the device I listed has been put to good use in the Marine industry for years.
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Bob and Susan
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Bedman you'll look back later and laugh....
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Bruce R Leech
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Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
all kidding aside I think you need to learn to live with the Birds. after all they were there first. try painting your thing the same color as the
bird poop or some thing like that. to do anything to make them go away would be like some one moving to Mexico and kicking all of the Mexicans out.
just be glad that you can provide them with a nice perch and a little shade. some food and fresh water would be nice also.
good luck and enjoy your new Friends |
It's not the birds he's worried about, Bruce!
Seriously, the device I listed has been put to good use in the Marine industry for years. |
It seems that I have built a Seagull - Crow - Buzzard - Pelican Outhouse!!
fish I guess
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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Diver
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Bruce,
Are you drinking again ?? Too funny !
Bedman,
1. Careful closing in the gables if there is much wind in your area. Make sure the shole thing won't blow over or lift off from the extra wind force.
2. Once you've closed in or screened the top of your big bird house, they will move down to a less desireable but still satisfactory location on your
railings.
3. Walls are the only cure to keep all those danged nature's critters and their poops away.
They oughta learn not to poop an your place, eh ??
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