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Bob H
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Recent violence reports - FAKE?
I tend to think that the recent reports of violence on the toll road from Ensenada are fake. I do not see any official reports on the news or in
print anywhere. There is no proof of these events. 
[Edited on 8-21-2006 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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comitan
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Bob
Hope you have your flackjacket on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
I tend to think that the recent reports of violence on the toll road from Ensenada are fake. I do not see any official reports on the news or in
print anywhere. There is no proof of these events.
[Edited on 8-21-2006 by Bob H] |
Hmmmm ... and what kind of proof would you like. You need to be able to understand the difference between bogus and real reports. Hint: it's all about
who's doing the posting.
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Bob and Susan
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yea i think soulpatch truly belives it...
come to LA...it happens EVERYDAY!!!
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Bob H
Too many haves + too many have nots + too much meth = too much violence.
Sad but true.
We will continue to visit the area, but we will remain cautious.
I am less & less inclined to encourage those who have never been to visit the areas between TJ & Ensenada that I have enjoyed for the last 45
years.
Very sad.
Be very careful out there.
Hope to see you at c-ckteleria Mazatlan in the future.l
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bajamigo
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Does Bob H doubt that men walked on the moon?
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Bruce R Leech
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Bob H what do you think they are going to do, go to the police and report it? come on use your head.
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toneart
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Violence happens everywhere. Why should we doubt this report? Wherever one travels one must remain aware. Through the years the wise advice against
driving Baja at night has repeatedly been substantiated. This is just one more reason not to drive at night. Too bad it has to occur this time on the
well traveled, toll corredor that we all depend on to get further south quickly.
Even though I refuse to live my life in fear, I do appreciate a heads up. I will not drive that corredor at night, whereas I might have before.
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Barry A.
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"There is no proof of these events" ????????
------come on, Bob---------your kidding us, right??? Are you saying you don't trust your fellow NOMAD's??? Say it isn't so!!
Any opinions/doubts on the holocaust??? the death of J. F. K. ????? how about global warming??? 
and somebody just HAD to drag poor "Woody in OB's" corpse story in Catavina up again----------
Wow, the NOMAD's will be polarizing soon, just like the country.
I wish you were right, but I am convinced you are not.
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elgatoloco
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Bob H is my kind of guy. He's an optimist!
I too like Bob H wish it were not true.
When he made that post I am guessing that he was, like me, wishing it was all a bad dream.
My family has been lucky enough to have had a house at the beach in Baja Norte since I was a 'gleam in my daddy's eye' and it kills me to see the
changes that have occurred in the last few years relative to one?s feeling of safety/security in the area.
The tragedy of it all is that the feeding frenzy in development is only going to worsen the situation and until something changes BIG TIME the local
authorities are of NO help.
One just have to be very careful.
Hang in there Bob!
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Debra
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Point well made Elgatoloco,
As a woman traveling alone with small children in tow, I too appreceicate the heads up, will it stop me? No! I will not travel the toll road at night
as I have the last few times though!
Mean people suck!
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Mike Humfreville
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Regardless of the validity of the original shooting story, how can we resent someone passing on the news? No one claimed to be there first hand, no
one here saw it. Is this type of behavior completely unlikely in Mexico (or the US)??? NOT! The more information we have the better off we are, and
I mean to include those who have never travelled the peninsula before. Most of us have been helped by the locals in so many ways that we very much
appreciate the hospitality. That doesn't mean there aren't a few bad dudes out there. I've been reading for years how the influx of mainland Mexico
workers in the agricultural arena in the general area has seriously increased the crime between the border and El Rosario. While any crime is
intolorable at least we can try and understand the causes for this behavior, actual or assumed, and take action to avoid it.
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Roberto
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Actually, Mike, soulpatch was not "passing on the news" as you put it. He wasn't there, true, but since the trailer is at his house, and he has
visited the injured person at the hospital, it's probably closer than that, don't you think?
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Mike Humfreville
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Roberto
My comment refers to Bob H's initial post (that started this thread. SoulPatch wasn't even in my head.
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whaaaaaaaaaat????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we actually WENT to the moon?
i thought it was filmed in Nevada at Art Bell's place.
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Bruce R Leech
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what kind of Nomad would soulpatch be if he had this info and didn't pass it along to us?
thanks soulpatch
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aha baja
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I personaly know the person who was shot in the report i worked with them on projects for several years. I didn't read it first on Nomads but heard
about it from one of his subcontractors at 8am that morning(co-owner of a construction business) I wanted to confirm the "rumor" and looked it up on
Nomads. If Soulpatch said it happend, rest assured IT HAPPENED!!!. I know the person shot and soulpatch to be honest, decent, family oriented people
and this is not being made up. Get cynical somewhere else but this did happen. Tom(victim) did not ask for this to happen nor would he ever encourage
it. He and his family were victims of random senceless violence and did not deserve this . It brings it all home when it happens to someone you know
and respect. This could have happened in the U.S but with Mexico+less negative media coverage=GRINGO $$ P.S. Soulpatch, please tell Tom we all wish
him a speedy recovery.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Hint: it's all about who's doing the posting. |
Very good point - well taken. My wish is that these stories are not true.
[Edited on 8-22-2006 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
Bob H is my kind of guy. He's an optimist!
I too like Bob H wish it were not true.
When he made that post I am guessing that he was, like me, wishing it was all a bad dream. |
I think you got it right.... thanks for the positive feedback.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Baja Bernie
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ahabaja's post should have been unnecessary
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