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Dave
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Boulevard 2000 open!
This means that travelers can now bypass TJ and Rosarito. And no tolls! (yet) 
Today, a friend made it from Tecate to the Fox studio exit in 35 minutes!
I have to go to Otay on Wednesday. I'll take the new bypass and report back.
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elgatoloco
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Looking forward to your report!
Drive safely.
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/fideicomiso/avances.htm
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Oso
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I'm guessing it's not on any regular maps yet. Anyone have any (readable) graphics?
[Edited on 8-22-2006 by Oso]
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BornFisher
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Thanks Dave-- I look forward to trying this new camino!
And I just might stop by for your report!!
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comitan
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It would be nice if someone would post where you access it and where it goes.
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Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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Ditto, comitan. And belated feliz cumpleanos.
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Dave
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From what I understand, the entrance/exit is only currently accessible from the free road. So...Traveling from the South you would have to take the
Puerto Nuevo exit off the cuota and travel North on the free road to position yourself to enter B2000. When taking B2000 South from Otay the exit
would place you on the free road Southbound at Popotla.
This will change when they complete the merge lanes to/from the cuota. Also, I would expect travel times to change as they will probably add traffic
lights along the route.
Oso, the Southern end is at Popotla. The Northern end is supposedly a couple miles West of the toll gate for Tecate. I'll let you know exactly on
Wednesday.
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Barry A.
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In the old days---------
---You could drive from eastern TJ to Rosarito Beach thru the mountains-------in fact it was the main road. Is this a good way to bypass the toll
road between TJ and Rosarita Beach?
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Bruce R Leech
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thanks for the report Dave nice to have some good news.
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toneart
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I too will look forward to your report, Dave. Do you think the diminished tolls would cause a more vigilent patrol of the TJ/Rosarito corredor? It
seems that former police may be the perpetrators. The Baja Norte government knows who they are. Eventually lack of revenue should activate the
government as these incedents get publicized. The public, business communities and the press, Mexican and Gringo, should put on the pressure. It is
not only the lack of revenue from tolls, but also lack of revenue from tourism that is essential to the Mexican economy. This is HUGE!
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
---You could drive from eastern TJ to Rosarito Beach thru the mountains-------in fact it was the main road. Is this a good way to bypass the toll
road between TJ and Rosarita Beach? |
Still doable. It's called the libre. We take it often when heading north. It takes you right to the SENTRI line. It's also the best way to go if you
are headed for Otay crossing.
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
I too will look forward to your report, Dave. Do you think the diminished tolls would cause a more vigilent patrol of the TJ/Rosarito corredor? It
seems that former police may be the perpetrators. The Baja Norte government knows who they are. Eventually lack of revenue should activate the
government as these incedents get publicized. The public, business communities and the press, Mexican and Gringo, should put on the pressure. It is
not only the lack of revenue from tolls, but also lack of revenue from tourism that is essential to the Mexican economy. This is HUGE!
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It is huge. When the revenues drop the prices just go up.
Viva Mexico!
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Oso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
---You could drive from eastern TJ to Rosarito Beach thru the mountains-------in fact it was the main road. Is this a good way to bypass the toll
road between TJ and Rosarita Beach? |
Still doable. It's called the libre. We take it often when heading north. It takes you right to the SENTRI line. It's also the best way to go if you
are headed for Otay crossing. |
Sounds like it's improved. The last time I took the libre many years ago, it was about 10 mph between gravel and hog trucks belching black smoke and
stirring up clouds of dust.
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David K
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Libre vs. Cuota...
After the 2005 Pyramid Resort Book Party... Doug (Baja Nomad) and I left at the same time. He took the Libre and I took the Toll road back to San
Ysidro and I was surprised at how close we were to getting to the border... We cell phoned each other in the border line and he was just a few hundred
feet behind me.
I just don't like stop and go traffic, with signals if there is a non-stop alternative... even longer in miles.
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Baja Bernie
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Soulpatch
Take San Ysidro south and come back north through Tecate and then stop by the Barrett Cafe for a great fish dinner. Except Tecate can be a bear on
the weekends.
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would 94 be the best route to get to tecate from the orange county area? on a map it looks like it is about 40 miles from the 5 in san diego to
tecate.
baja bernie: the barrett cafe sounds like a good idea. is it easy to spot?
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Baja Bernie
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fandango
Yep, 94 will get you there. Barrett is very hard to miss as it is down in a hollow where 94 passes by. High hills, mountains down this way, on both
approaches. When you get to a high spot on the east of Barrett is where you should start looking for the signs to Tecate. (not like David--I can't
remember the name of the turn off--his young mind is a trap) A fun trip in either direction. Once in Tecate you take Hwy 3 south and end up in San
Miguel just north of Ensenada.
Enjoy!
David can tell you about some really good cafe's in Tecate.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fandango
would 94 be the best route to get to tecate from the orange county area? on a map it looks like it is about 40 miles from the 5 in san diego to
tecate.
baja bernie: the barrett cafe sounds like a good idea. is it easy to spot? |
To get to 94 and avoid San Diego:
I-5 to I-805 to Hwy. 52 east past Santee where it turns into Hwy. 125 south to Hwy. 94 east... all freeway! Do not go near the area between 3:30 and
6:30 weekdays!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Yep, 94 will get you there. Barrett is very hard to miss as it is down in a hollow where 94 passes by. High hills, mountains down this way, on both
approaches. When you get to a high spot on the east of Barrett is where you should start looking for the signs to Tecate. (not like David--I can't
remember the name of the turn off--his young mind is a trap) A fun trip in either direction. Once in Tecate you take Hwy 3 south and end up in San
Miguel just north of Ensenada.
Enjoy!
David can tell you about some really good cafe's in Tecate. |
Barrett is good... Casa Vieja in Tecate is good... the expert on Tecate is Roy, The Squarecircle on Nomad!
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Dave
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Report:
It took less than 20 minutes to travel from Popotla to the TJ-Tecate toll gate entrance, the Eastern terminus of B2000. An additional 10 minutes back
West on Industrial to the Otay border crossing. All 4 lane and no detours.
Who should use this route?
All those traveling from the East could enter at Tecate and avoid San Diego, San Ysidro and TJ completely. Same in reverse. And If I were towing a big
rig from Rosarito to San Felipe I would use this to go to Mexicali and then down.
For travelers Northbound:
Once they complete the on/off ramps from the cuota this would save at least 45 min for those needing to cross into the U.S. from Otay.
From SoCal:
IMO, and unless towing a big rig, entering at Otay to backtrack to B2000 doesn't make sense. Best to use San Ysidro and the cuota. Same in Reverse.
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