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AmoPescar
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VIOLENCE AND CRIMES AGAINST AMERICANS IN BAJA
Fellow Nomads,
I sent the following e-mail to Baja Governor Elorduy, the Attorney General and Secretary of Tourism, and I am going to send it to EVERY government
official on the list at the web address below. Their Baja state officials e-mail addresses are listed under each department.
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/english/gabinete.jsp
NOTE: LINKS TO THE E-MAIL ADDRESSES OF BAJA STATE OFFICIALS ARE ALSO IN ANOTHER POST BELOW
I URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME! We must let them know that we feel these crimes and violence is unacceptable.
Feel free to copy and use my letter if you feel it's acceptable. I have written it in English. I'm sure they'll be able to read it or have it
translated. Simply insert the officials name and/or title at the top. You can use this Discussion subject title as your e-mail subject title.
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Dear Governor Elorduy,
I am writing to you about the many incidents of crimes and violence which have been occurring against American citizens visiting both Baja Norte and
Baja Sur. Please see the following links for examples.
http://www.elvigia.net/noticias/?seccion=elvalle&id=3700...
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=18869
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=18835
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=18830
These incidents, which have included robberies, attempted robberies, car-jackings and even deaths have been increasing in frequency lately. Much of
the crime seems to be happening in the area of the Tijuana to Ensenada Toll Road, but, is also taking place further south and on both sides of the
Baja peninsula. These crimes are not acceptable and very sad. Something must be done to stop these dangerous criminals and end their violence!
I am a regular Baja traveler and lover of Baja, visiting many times every year. I have spent hundreds of days and thousands of tourist dollars all
over Baja. I am also an active participant in many Baja Internet traveler web sites. These web sites are read daily by hundreds of active Baja
travelers and thousands of potential tourists to Baja.
Myself and the thousands of other participants and viewers of these Internet sites are outraged at the crimes and violence which has been carried out
against American tourists and Americans living full-time and part-time in Baja. It has even endangered families with children. It has all of us VERY
scared and very wary about visiting Baja now, in the future, or, if ever again at all. Many long time visitors have already said they will never
visit again.
Many visitors to these Internet sites have been discussing organized Boycotts of Baja. Also, I know that many have contacted American TV and print
medias have already been informed of these crimes and violence, and of our fears of visiting Baja.
Something must be done to STOP this violence! PLEASE urge your Federal, State and local governments to work together and find ways to immediately
stop this violence.
I URGE you to work with those in power to come up with a plan to stop these dangerous criminals and their dangerous behaviors and violence.
We Baja lovers WANT to come to Baja and enjoy the people, beauty and more that Baja has to offer. And of course, this means we would be spending
millions of tourist dollars in Baja. PLEASE HELP US FEEL SAFE IN BAJA AGAIN!
Sincerely,
Michael Curtiss
Carlsbad, CA.
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Amo Pescar  
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by AmoPescar]
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by AmoPescar]
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bajablue
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awesome, great work!I was just in the La Fonda area for 3 days and did not see one policeman. After all the violence and robberies that were written
about on the site this last week (one by me), I was hoping to see a greater police presence in the area. Really disappointing and hopefully the work
of Antonio and the other members of this site work will get some proactive police work in place..
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Bajagato
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Thanks. I am very concerned, I copied your letter and sent it to a few officials.
Thanks again
Bajagato
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Marie-Rose
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I have copied your letter to send a copy but for some reason I cannot open the address link to get the email address. Anybody else having problems??
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
I have copied your letter to send a copy but for some reason I cannot open the address link to get the email address. Anybody else having problems??
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The link is good:
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/english/gabinete.jsp
Albert G
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kingpin
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ROTFLMAO
Not at whats happened, but the fact that you think the MX government gives 2 Cents.
This type of letter will only make them hate gringos more.
[Edited on 8-24-2006 by kingpin]
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Bajavestruz
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kingpin, do you have any suggestions on what would be more effective?
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Barry A.
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ROTFLAMO---------------Huh???????
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Barry A.
That stands for: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off
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kingpin
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajavestruz
kingpin, do you have any suggestions on what would be more effective? |
No! Lo siento?
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Marie-Rose
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It must be my MAC because I cannot get anything but "gobbly goo" from this link??
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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Russ
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My Mac too
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AmoPescar
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SORRY you couldn't get on through the link.
I tested it again by clicking on the link as I entered it and also the one AL G included. Both of them worked fine.
TRY DOING IT THIS WAY...
1. Enter just the first part (up to the .mx) in your Internet address box.
2. If it takes you to the page, click on the INGLES language tab on the top left.
3. Roll your cursor over the GOVERNMENT tab (under the BAJA CALIFORNIA on the banner picture) and the "State Officials" will pop up under the
Governor link. Click the State Officials and it will take you to their names, addresses with their e-mail links.
Let us know if that worked
AMO (Michael) 
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by AmoPescar]
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BajaNomad
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Mike, I'm guessing it has something to do with an incompatibility with the browser they're using on their Macs and the JSP scripting that site is
using.
What specifically, I have no idea... but that just sticks out as a quite possible reason.
You might want to just copy down some of those email address and post them here.
Just a thought.
Regards,
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Doug
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by BajaNomad]
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AmoPescar
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What happened to Grover's posting????
Grover,
I'm not a computer expert, but you might try going into your Internet
Browser SECURITY settings and see if you can ENABLE Java Scripting.
I have MS Internet Explorer and it's under the TOOLS section at the top.
AMO
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AmoPescar
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IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE LINK..use these e-mail addresses
Click on the e-mail link..OR..just copy and paste the e-mail address into your e-mail address box. And when writing the salutation at the beginning
of the letter, BE SURE to use their middle name... i.e. the Governor is Elorduy (it's the name used in their e-mail address)
BAJA GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
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EUGENIO ELORDUY WALTHER
Governor of the State of Baja
eelorduy@baja.gob.mx
(if it's returned, send it to his Chief of Staff and ask him to forward it)
RAUL S. ALEMAN SALAZAR
Chief of Staff of Governor
raleman@baja.gob.mx
MANUEL D?AZ LERMA
Secretary of Public Safety
manueldiaz@baja.gob.mx
SERGIO TAGLIAPIETRA NASSRI
Secretary of Economic Development
stagliapietra@baja.gob.mx
ALEJANDRO MORENO MEDINA
Secretary of Tourism
amorenom@baja.gob.mx
ANTONIO W. MART?NEZ LUNA
Attorney General
amartinez@pgjebc.gob.mx
RAFAEL FELIPE QUIROZ MART?NEZ
State Government Representative in Mexico City
rquiroz@baja.gob.mx
RICARDO ALFREDO SU?REZ ANAYA
Direction of Public Relations
rsuarez@baja.gob.mx
JOS? MAR?A VALDEZ MORALES
Administrative Officer of Government
jvaldez@baja.gob.mx
BERNARDO H. MART?NEZ AGUIRRE
Secretary of Government
bmartinez@baja.gob.mx
Good Luck, AMO 
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by AmoPescar]
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Details...
Hi guys,
I believe this is a good idea to do, specially if many of you send this e-mail... after all... the one who does not speak is not heard.
AmoPescar... It might be better if you inlcude some links of some incidents... this will reinforce your letter and show them what you are talking
about, specially because sometimes there is no official report of the problem.
Also, perhaps you need to include in your e-mails the US Consulate in Tijuana and the Secretary of Tourism in Ensenada (Lic. Hector Rosas, Delegado,
hrosas@baja.gob.mx).
Antonio M.
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"Where the Baja is so much more than a dream..."
BajaCactus
"Where Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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AmoPescar
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BAJA CACTUS
Antonio,
I took your advice and added some links to the letter as you suggested. And as you will see, I also added another posting with E-MAIL addresses for
many state officials. Thanks for the advice.
Muchas Gracias, AMO 
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by AmoPescar]
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Catalina
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My emails have been sent to the Baja gov't. Thank's for posting the letter so that we could copy it I was feeling helpless.
Thank's
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Don Alley
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Mac users:
The problem with the link is in Safari and Firefox. Explorer works, as does Omniweb, on a Mac. I haven't tried Opera.
This is probably a relic of attempts by the Borg (Microsoft) to make the entire web only compatible with Windows.
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