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CortezExplorers
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
My problem is, can we bring enough to offset what we would consume? Where would you stay? What would you eat? By the time you get there would relief
agencies such as the Mexican military, Rotarians, helicoptors, boats already be in operation. |
Well said. Sometimes the best help is to stand back and provide material support to those with field experience in disaster work.
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Very true, however with some of us need to head down out of concern for loved ones, extracting where needed. If we are going down anyway, it would be
great to know what is needed -
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capt. mike
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As far as i can tell, BBP is working on airlift options, have to let that admin run their show, they have good people showing concern. Landing on
roads etc not a good idea, have to keep safety at the forefront - don't need to lose others or have an incident. if i could get there now i would but
have to wait for now. many good volunteers will get on this i know, like the flying sams and angel flight did for katrina.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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BAJAmerican
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OK FOLKS latest update from the scene Tuesday 1051 PDT
Soldiers say Palo Verde Airport is OK
The phones in Sta Rosalia are working.
Food, electric also OK in Sta Rosalia
In Mulege, water will not be ready until the electric goes on. They think that will be a WEEK.
MAJOR NEED IS MOSQUITO ABATEMENT - LARGE SCALE AND REPELLENT -DENGUE IS A MAJOR THREAT. VACCINE may be needed afterward.
SOME TELEPHONES ON IN MULEGE - NO REGULAR INTERNET OR CELL SERVICE
rELIEF EFFORTS - BEST EFFORTS is GUAYMAS FERRY to STA Rosalia
Serenidad Airport has major rocks/arroyos as of last report
If you have planes flying in with goods to Palo Verde, you can call Gaby Saul at 615-152-0707 to get some trucks up there to bring back
Yesterday Road to Sta Rosalia took 3 hours
Soldiers are in the area; helicopters are reviewing the area.
CHIVATO area OK - water came from mountains, not the sea
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJAmerican
DENGUE IS A MAJOR THREAT. VACCINE may be needed afterward.
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There is no vaccine for dengue. All we can do is help with external preventatives.
From the CDC website:
No dengue vaccine is available. Recently, however, attenuated candidate vaccine viruses have been developed. Efficacy trials in human volunteers
have yet to be initiated. Research is also being conducted to develop second-generation recombinant vaccine viruses. Therefore, an effective dengue
vaccine for public use will not be available for 5 to 10 years.
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Natalie Ann
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American Red Cross Report
I don't see how this really cover the situation in Mulege, but here's what the American REd Cross is saying:
Hurricane John Rips Mulege - 9/5/2006
As we are told and from photos, the river in Mulege crested in the town square of Mulege to the North and within several feet of highway 1 to the
South. All of the structures, trailers, etc. along the river were either washed away or were severely damaged. We have no information on the
Serenidad, one report was that it was washed away and another that it sustained very little damage.
The report from the Red Cross:
That President Vicente Fox was in Mulege (and other areas) yesterday
That he pledged national support for the area
That the water in Mulege is down to normal level
That the roads to Mulege from the north have been fixed or detours have been made
That trucks will be arriving today with relief supplies
That most structures survived the flood however, most in the river sustained heavy damage
That there is major cleanup to be done
That the government is sending in persons to spray for dengue fever as well as vaccinate all the children
And that although Mulege was hit very hard, the major damage was between Loreto and LaPaz.
We have been attempting to contact persons in Mulege who can confirm this information. If you are in Mulege or have a contact that can be reached in
Mulege, they need to contact us at
[Edited on 9-5-2006 by Natalie Ann]
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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vgabndo
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Sounds like the Red Cross needs a link to Baja Nomad.
Doug's site seems to be the clearing house to the world about REAL conditions. Thanks to all for what you are doing.
Still hoping for any word on San Nicolas. No known contact since before the rains came. The suspense is not too much fun, but I have nothing to
complain about either way.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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jandjbaja
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john
 THANKS FOR THE INFO. WE ARE ON PUNTA ARENA AND SOUNDS LIKE WE TOOK THE STORM OK.
OUR CARETAKER MIGHT BE STRANDED ON THE BEACH. IF YOU CAN WOULD YOU CHECK ON HIM AND HIS WIFE. NACHO ROMO. HIS HOUSE IN TOWN, IS THE GREEN ONE JUST
PAST SALU'S TIENDA, THE GREEN ONE. HIS DAUGHTER LIVES THERE. HOPE ALL IS OK WITH THEM. HOW DID THAT PART OF MULEGE FAIR. ALSO HAVE FRIENDS THAT JUST
BOUGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SALU'S. WE HAVE NO INFO ON THAT SIDE OF THE RIVER. THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE PLACE WASHED AWAY. ANY INFO ON THESE
THINGS WOULD BE HELPFUL
THANKS, JUDY
LOL,J
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Pescador
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I just got off of the phone with Vuelos De Guerro Negro and they indicated that the strip at Palo Verde is OK and they landed there yesterday twice
with their twin engine.
I also talked to San Marcos Mike this morning and he indicated that COMSA which is the company at the Gypsum mine on San Marcos Island is heading up
a relief effort for Mulege. Details at www.bloodydecks.com
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Cypress
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I'd take lencho's advise. Don't jump into anything you're not prepared for. You might become part of the problem.
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jandjbaja
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YOU GYUS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!! WE HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE PAST THE MISSION AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE DOING AND IF THEY
NEED ANYTHING. I HAVE A PH# IF SOME OF THE PHONES ARE WORKING MAYBE HIS MIGHT BE. CAN ANYONE TRY AND CALL HIM. HIS MANE IS ALFREDO, HE'S DONE A LOT OF
WORK IN TOWN, MARI BELLS, OASIS, ETC. HIS PHONE # IS 1530861. THANKS
LOL,J
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Pescador
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Hi Bders ~ I have just returned from a meeting here at Isla San Marcos with the Mining Company COMSA and what to do about all the needs of Mulege to
the south. We here have already started a food and clothes drive as well sending assistance. Mulege has been devastated!!! Worst since 1959!! They
need any contribution which can be had........ NOT MONEY! but supplies. People on the river and throughout the town have NO WATER or ELECTRICITY
also most have lost everything.
We here at COMSA have come to the aid many times for the better of the Baja Community and are often the first to act in times of need. PLEASE Help US
Help Mulege's people.
COMSA has a trucking company and office in Calexico California. We need Clothes~ New/Old Foods~ Dry/Canned Medical Supplies~ Basic Shelter~
Tents/Tarps Electrical Devices~ Flashlights/Batteries/Lanterns
Here is the Addy and I/WE (COMSA) guarantee everything will go were it's needed. PLEASE DON'T SEND MONEY!!
Hurricane John "Mulege Relief"
C.O. COMSA
2421 Portico, Blvd. Suite B
Calexico, CA 92231
Thanks to All!! For Your Help
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Pescador
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Sorry about that, The previous post was from www.bloodydecks.com and was posted by San Marcos Mike from San Marcos Island. Comsa is trying to bring a truck down with relief supplies and will
pay for all the gas, they just need things to bring. If you have any questions, you can call Mike at 415-244-8451. They are close and have already
started sending things into Mulege.
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Sharksbaja
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Ok all you generous Nomads
It's paramount that money be available on the spot in Mulege ASAP.
Plunk down your cash for Mulege. I'll work together with Bruce and some other professionals to get much needed money for Mulege victims. I have access
to accounts in Sta. Rosalia which I can use in conjunction with Paypal.
If you can't trust us, who the hell can you trust.
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Viva Mulege!
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JaLoTiger
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Mulege disaster
| Quote: | Originally posted by mulege marv
sorry i havent been able to post any news, i have been to busy helping people less fortunate than myself. lets go back, friday the storm got downsized
to a "tropical storm" everyone kinda let their gard down. on saturday the rain started, no big deal, tropical storm, right ? saturday morning 3:00 am
i looked at the river for about the hundrenth time, got up at 3:30 the river had risen to my front door, about 25 feet of water going very fast. the
bottom line is mulege has been devistated, all the river homes are badly damaged or destroyed. 99% of the people on the river have lost everything,
some even their lives. everyone is pulling togather here but i dont know if its enough, the devistation is unbelivable. jorges park is gone, orchard
& oasis badly damaged, villa marias, badly damaged, cuesta real badly damaged, the river has recieded now and left tons of mud and debris behind,
we are all just trying to dig out now, with no water, no electricty, and alot, more later.
[Edited on 9-4-2006 by mulege marv]
[Edited on 9-4-2006 by mulege marv] |
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JaLoTiger
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Is anyone thinking of driving down to Mulege? Please let me know because we can either send money, supplies, and/or caravan down together. Lorraine is
thinking of going to help with clean up for a very short trip. Our hearts are sick and we want to help but need a coordinator up here on this end to
help.
Any suggestions on a Mulege bound coordinated relief effort from the west states?
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JaLoTiger
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I'm in
| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
It's paramount that money be available on the spot in Mulege ASAP.
Plunk down your cash for Mulege. I'll work together with Bruce and some other professionals to get much needed money for Mulege victims. I have access
to accounts in Sta. Rosalia which I can use in conjunction with Paypal.
If you can't trust us, who the hell can you trust. |
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JaLoTiger
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Give us instructions on username etc. for paypal. I will call all my buddies up here and let them know, if they haven't already read this. Great idea.
Thank you!!
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submarine_dbk
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The Rotary Club in Santa Rosaila is also coordinating efforts to get supplies to Mulege. You can contact Julieta Medina Oronoz - she is helping with
these efforts. Both she and the Rotary club have accounts that funds can be transferred to. Contact her at the following email:
julietabaja@hotmail.com
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mulege marv
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mulege update
the pemex got their generator going today so we have gas anyway, heard the phones are working in town only. the road to santa rosalia is drivable 4
wheel drive. the clean up is tough with no water, no electricity. according to a line hand probably be 20 days before all is restored. its pretty
depressing in mulege right now. we are working on it but very slow.
Want what you have
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Cypress
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Thanks for the update. Our prayers are with ya'll.
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