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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 10:51 AM
Need some advice from the guys and galls in the know about Toyotas


I am wanting to put together a "fix-it kit" for my "new" 4Runner

You know, all those belts and bolts that everyone advises you should have. (not that I'd know what to do with the stuff, but, I figure if I have the parts, my odds are better for getting help if I need it)

It's a 1992 V6 with all the bell and whistles.

A list of "must haves" would be great help. Thanks, Debra
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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 01:04 PM


I have a 93 Toy 4x4 PU. I carry a good first aid kit, at least 2 good tow straps, one with hooks. a set of fan belts, radiator and heater hoses. 2 or 3 good flashlights. 1 or more 5 gal gas can. 2 or 3 gal water jug. Security club. A set of front brake pads. A gas filter. A machete. A hammer. I carry my main tool box when I go to Baja, but for you I suggest a set of combo wrenches and socket set both metric type. Side cutters (dikes) gas pliers, needle nose pliers. Electrical tape and duct tape, zip ties and nylon rope. Tire plugs and a portable air compressor that plugs into the lighter outlet or clamps to the battery. I have a compressor in the engine compartment. That way you can air the tires down for sand and up for pavement. Don't forget the tire gauge. A can of tire sealant wouldn't hurt either. Make sure your lug wrench is easy to use, if not get one that is. Also get a Haynes service manual.

Make sure your timing belt is no more than 60,000 miles old. In fact I suggest having it replaced every 50,000.

Blankets, sleeping bag and snack food etc. For me I carry beer in case I were to break down I could have a picnic.

Hope this helps. I suggest one of those plastic boxes to put most of the stuff in and a seperate tool box or tool bag.

[Edited on 12-13-2003 by TW]
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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 06:17 PM
Thanks Tw and Neal Johns


both for your great lists!

and to my Chilian houseguest who tells me that I already have most of this stuff in my garage....He has taken both lists and is stowing the items for me in one area of my garage, and what I don't have he says he has for me (including a compressor!)

Thanks again, and if anyone has a "must have" to add, it would be most welcome. Debra
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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 06:38 PM


Also, some tequila (for snake bites):P:bounce::spingrin:



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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 06:46 PM
Good idea....but should I


feed it to the snake, or pour it over the wound? :saint:
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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 06:54 PM


Neither... unless it's the cheap stuff!

Say, you thanked Neal... but, where is his list???




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[*] posted on 12-13-2003 at 07:55 PM
He e'd me, I will forward if you like


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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 07:57 AM


Debra: I would carry a large Bumper Jack if I was going to be going to the Beach: It is the type you can Jack your Bumper high and put dirt or Sand underneath you r wheel to move our of a Hole. Let me Know and I can send a picture of the type. Skeet
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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 10:56 AM
Thanks Skeeter....


Yes please send the pic. I'll show it to my friend......he is talking about some special jack he has for me, maybe it's the same thing....I never thought tools could be fun, but, I have to admit, I feel like I'm on a treasure hunt. :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 11:03 AM


Maybe I missed it, but no one seemed to suggest you change your trans fluid and filter. Most people don't and anytime we buy a used vehicle, it goes to the trans shop within a month. While it's open, he can check everything. My guy tells me how long it will last.
After reading that all those cowboy pictures I grew up with were misleading concerning snake bites, I bought a suction cup for the venom at Sportmart.
We did see a nice 6 ft. snake when we were leaving the Diamond Eden near Loreto. The cab driver even stopped to watch it cross the road.:o
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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 12:12 PM
Thanks Joe


Yes, that is one of the first things I always do...along with an oil change (no matter what I've been told about when it was last done)
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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 01:04 PM


It's all good info. However, I am concerned if you cram all that emergency stuff and basic needs into the 4Runner, there will be no room for anything else, let alone 3-4 people.

Please send me Neal's list or post it here (wouldn't we all like to see it?). Neal is a great desert explorer ( http://www.desertexplorers.org ) and 'aridologist'. Plus, he's a solid Toyota believer (advised me to get a Tacoma and I am sold on them, now).

The high lift jack is great, but I never had one and always got out without it... just may have been easier with one. I think you need one of those heavy duty looking off road Con-Fer roof racks for carrying all this extra equipment and high lift jack. Then you may have room for camping gear and people inside.

Getting unstuck is usually a matter of lowering your tires' air pressure way down to you see a good buldge (around 10 psi) and being able to reinflate them. Have a regular size shovel to clear the sand away from the tires and differntials (attach to roof rack).

The air compressor in the engine compartment mentioned above, would be the best. A gas cylinder full of compressed air is the next choice (store on your roof rack). I just have the cig. lighter air pump, and that takes just 5 minutes to blow up a 15 psi (normal deep sand running pressure for me) 16" tire to 25 psi. So, a 20-25 minute ordeal. The really expensive Quick Air pump wasn't much faster, and failed in Baja because the heat generated melted the PLASTIC compression ring that holds the hose in the fitting next to the motor, the first time I used it... they could/should have used brass!

Oh well, you have a lot of info. and suggestions. BajaTaco is another good source. He really fixed up his Tacoma cherry for Baja. Not the same as a 4Runner, but you can get some ideas from Chris. http://www.bajataco.com


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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 01:58 PM
David, that was going to be my next question to Neal


But, I didn't want to be too much of a burden on his good advice.

I was thinking that since I probebly wouldn't need (I hope) this stuff, I wanted to know how much all this stuff would weigh, and if it would be advised to stow it on my lugage rack...you know me, I'm all about organizeation (sp?) "everything in it's place, and a place for everything"....I hate wasting time looking for things!
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[*] posted on 12-14-2003 at 04:41 PM


I would make sure I had a couple of cans of tire sealant ($10), to help with flats along the way. You can save space, until you can pay for a good compressor system under the hood.
A good tow strap, extra timing belt, duck tape, HD "+" lug wrench, large zip ties, good set of basic tools, some gas treatment to remove water:fire:
Just the basic sense on where you plan on taking your Toyota off the beaten path;D
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[*] posted on 12-15-2003 at 05:46 AM


Try a new motor. That year Toyota had a recall on the factory v6 motor. It should have been replaced by the dealer, but there are many out there that were not. If you have one of those think long and hard before you take it anywhere but around town.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2003 at 12:19 PM


The last post is good advice, Debra. Up until 1995, the toyota V-6 had a defect in the motor. Toyota notified all the owners and fixed it for free. Unfortunetly, not all have been fixed. Check it out before travling.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2003 at 06:40 PM


throu in a set of floor mats or carpet scraps the come in handy to keep things clean but you really will happy when ya get stuck in the sand there the best for putting under the tire to get out



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[*] posted on 12-16-2003 at 01:14 PM


If you're going to take a good jack (Hi-Lift seems to be far & away the best) be sure to take a 12" x 12" square of thick plywood to set it on, so the base of the jack won't work its way into the sand.

About security: I decided to get one of those long clublike flashlights. The Sears one even has a little light that tells you when the batteries are getting low. Has anyone had any experience with a machete catching the eye of a soldier at an inspection, or are they so common that no one notices them? They're really cheap these days, but they're so @#$% lethal that I'm uneasy even having one around.

Does anyone know what the exact problem with the older V6's was?

Last question: How much does it cost to get a compressor installed under the hood? It's always seemed to me that a manufacturer could make an AC compressor do double duty pretty easily, but I haven't heard about that.
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eureka.gif posted on 12-16-2003 at 07:20 PM


May I suggest getting a four way lug wrench to replace your cheeze factory lug
wrench that way if you do need to change a tire you do not round the lug nuts. { I hate that }. A tube of two part epoxy is a great thing to carry with you also a tube of radiator sealant these items are small but are indispsible when needed.





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[*] posted on 12-16-2003 at 10:01 PM


OK, here is the list I sent Debra - reading the above posts, it is missing some things. :(

Spare water - Pepsi bottles or ???
Jumper cables, long - battery
Tow Strap, 25-30 feet, two in. wide - 4WD shop
Tire patch kit (string type)
Tire pump or 12 volt air compressor
Twenty inch, X type, lug wrench
Socket sets, small and large - (metric)
Fan Belts
Screwdrivers, two regular, two Philips
Four in., eight in. and 10 inch Crescent (adjustable) wrenches
Allen socket set - (metric)
Regular pliers
Vice Grip (locking) pliers
Needle Nose pliers
Diagonal cutters (Dikes)
Radiator hose leak tape
Radiator Stop Leak
Bottle Jack (in addition to the stock jack)
Jack Boards, one foot square, 3/4 inch plywood - two
ReBar tie wire - small spool from Home depot, etc. - (It's just wire)
2 1/2 pound short handled hammer - Home Depot
Duct tape
Electrical tape
Spare fuses
WD-40 aerosol can
Brake fluid, can
Five cans spare engine oil
Can(s) of transmission oil (if automatic)
Can(s) of gearbox/differential oil
Five foot lengths of chain, two sizes - Home Depot
Two x Fours, short, to level truck if sleeping in
Clean Rags
Old sheet (to prevent losing parts in the sand)




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