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JESSE
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Good news for Baja Wines
The state water agency has announced it will build a water aqueduct from Tijuana to the Guadalupe Valley. Thus providing desperately needed water to
increase the size of vineyards, and more wine!!!!!!
The project will take a couple of years but in the end, it will help grow the wine region into something capable of producing enough grapes to put us
on the map. Currently, there isnt enough water to go around, so production is limited.
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that is very good news for us wine lovers and also the state. these are the kind of projects that really do a lot of good 
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So this will come from Rodriguez? I'm sure that the citizens of TJ, Rosarito and points South will be pleased to hear this. Instead of potable water
they can just drink wine. Sorta like "let 'em eat cake".
As it is, there ain't enough to go around and there are 20 high-rise condos in the works.
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Bruce R Leech
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give me wine and a good deli sandwich any day keep the water and hold the mayo.
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I'll drink to that!
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Holy cow Bancoduo, you went from the lowest class avatar to the highest class. Congrats.
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Bruce R Leech
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yea what a change, tis is going to take a little getting used to
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From what I've tasted.....
....the Guadalupe Valley needs to cut the yields on the acreage already being farmed.
Too many thin wines..............
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I would be very curious to know the percentage of Baja Norte grapes grown in Guadalupe, compared to those grown down at Llano Colorado and the valleys
up and around Meling, etc.
Bet Guadalupe is just the 'showcase' and the major portion of grapes grown elsewhere.
That is just a guess, not a know fact.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Holy cow Bancoduo, you went from the lowest class avatar to the highest class. Congrats. |
She's my new
hunting buddy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
So this will come from Rodriguez? I'm sure that the citizens of TJ, Rosarito and points South will be pleased to hear this. Instead of potable water
they can just drink wine. Sorta like "let 'em eat cake".
As it is, there ain't enough to go around and there are 20 high-rise condos in the works. |
I was wondering
if this has more to do with development than grapes. The valley is a prime area for a upscale inland community.
eco-community
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That is great news, we can't get Baja wine here in Canada, and my husband and I LOVE it!!!
Now we can take even more home!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
....the Guadalupe Valley needs to cut the yields on the acreage already being farmed.
Too many thin wines.............. |
they grow some good grapes they just cant make a good wine yet . or at least with any kind of constancy. but that will come with time and some help
from outside Mexico.
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From what i know, Mexicans wines cannot compete with foreing wines because the goverment taxes the hell of out them. So a bottle of similar quality
wine from lets say California and Chile, will always be cheaper than its Mexican counterpart. Right now theres little incentive to produce world class
wines in the valleys. If you export them, people complain they are too expensive. And the local market is rather small. (Tijuana-Rosarito-Ensenada)
consume more wine than the rest of Mexico.
I had a conversation with Eduardo Liceaga, the owner of Viña de Liceaga, and he confirmed that theres two problems that prevent Mexican wines from
becoming truly international. 1.-Water and 2.-Taxes.
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The wines I've tried in Baja aren't that good. Can anyone suggest a nice baja red for around $10usd? I'm from Sonoma so I'm kinda spoiled.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
The wines I've tried in Baja aren't that good. Can anyone suggest a nice baja red for around $10usd? I'm from Sonoma so I'm kinda spoiled.
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Not likely.
Go south, young man. Chile and Argentina are kicking some serious Baja burro in the under 10 range. Try some Malbecs or Cabs. I like the Montes
Reserve Malbec '05 or the '04 Altas Hormigas Malbec.
Then, there's Espana..........and South Africa.........and the Rhone.
If taxation is the problem as Jesse suggests, the government should get out of the way of the wine industry in Mexico, cause this is a bad time to be
at a disadvantage to other countries.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
The wines I've tried in Baja aren't that good. Can anyone suggest a nice baja red for around $10usd? I'm from Sonoma so I'm kinda spoiled.
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You wont find any, like i said, a wine in baja of equal quality to one from california or chile is going to cost 10 dollars more, so its not for
everyone. If you don't mind the cost, i suggest you try the following:
Acrata Portada
Jardin Secreto
Roganto
Macouzet Cab-Merl
Equinoccio
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You're being WAY too kind
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
a wine in baja of equal quality to one from california or chile is going to cost 10 dollars more |
Joanne's daughter owns a wine bar in Long Beach. They specialize in Cal wines at $4-12 (their cost). There's not a Baja wine under $40 that even comes
close.
I plan to start importing truckloads. Even with import duties and taxes I'll be very competitive. That is...If they let me live. 
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Dave, I've seen some of my favs from Chile and Argentina for sale in Mexico in bottle shops. At least on the mainland. Not quite as inexpensive as
what I get em for up here but pretty close. So, dont discount them.
But, yes, the grape glut is continuing in California. Good for consumers.
And I didnt even mention the under 10 market coming out of eastern Washington state.
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Trader Joes....Gato Negro from Chile....try the cab-merlot blend....$4.99 a bottle
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