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shari
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Women in Cantinas...not
When I first came to Baja, my lanchero amigos took me to a Cantina in guerreo negro. I couldnt understand why I was the only woman in there. Yes there
were women looking fellows...transvestites...that often fooled the tourist men much to their dismay! I later found out that it is illegal for women to
enter Cantinas...unless you have an ID card...once in Constitucion I was looking for a cold Tecate and walked into a bar where I was asked for my
ID...I was flattered but he didn't mean my age ID....he wanted my Prostitute ID...a card which they carry proving a clean bill of health from the
clinic. OOOPS....so ladies...just to let ya know...sometimes nobody will say anything cause they like to have chicks in the cantina but it is illegal.
Also I went to a Ladies Bar thinking, OK, this one I can get into...but Ladies Bar means "ladies available"!!! So guys, when you see those gals in
the cantina...beware...they aren't!
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Hook
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This is incredible! But it must also be ignored in many destinations. My wife and I have been in many cantinas together.
Is it possible that escorted women are exempt?
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Paula
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Why, it's certainly to protect the virtue and safety of our fair and delicate sex, Kate. 
Just like a birka...
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No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What, that wasn't a woman????????????????? 
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DENNIS
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I can remember many years ago in Ensenada, bars that were, only by tradition I believe, for men. There were no bar stools but at the base of the bar
on the customer side was a trough, about a foot wide, with slow running water draining to one end. The bar had no restroom. Well, not a restroom of
the civilized style. Maybe thats why ladies wouldn't go in there. No TP on the bar.
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JZ
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Lots of Catinas allow women, you are just hanging out at the wrong places!
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My brother tells the story of being picked up by the cops one evening for asking this rather discheveled woman if fish net stockings where he might
find a hilado stand. She told him and then the cops came and tried to arrest him. He offered the usual mordida and then was told "no" by the cop. His
protests and queries pried from the cop the reason, "sir, that was no lady", "you have offended public decency!". He finally paid the required ten
bucks and was on his way. Ne Modo No?
Iflyfish
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I've told the old story about the two gringo couples in Guaymas more than once so I don't want to be accused of having Alzheimer's by repeating it
again. "Ladies Bar" has come to have a completely different meaning in Baja than its origins in the D.F. On the mainland, traditional cantinas would
by law have a small metal sign over the door prohibiting the entrance of women, minors and soldiers in uniform. Many often had a "Depto. de Mujeres"
around the corner which was a very small room, standing room only, with a pass-through to the bar where a "decent" lady could purchase a discreet shot
without attracting attention. Women within the cantina itself were assumed to be prostitutes and required to have health cards. Due to the influence
of tourism, the phenomenum of more modern lounges catering to couples, foreigners and more "enlightened" upper class Mexicans arose and were
distinguished by the term, in English, of "Ladies Bar" to distinguish them from traditional cantinas and were not subject to the same law. Somehow
the term became used in Baja to signify the availability of companions to whom the applicability of the term "Lady" could be debated.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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shari
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I asked the local police about Cantinas to check out for myself and yep they said it's illegal for the owners to allow women, escorted or solas, but
there are new bars where women can go...just not the old cantinas, which do not have womens bathrooms either. Some people call bars, cantinas
etc...but there is a difference...los hombres don't want their wives waltzing into the cantina while they are dancing with the "lady" with the adams
apple! Uh uh...so ni modo muchachas
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spike
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Did the police tell you how you can tell which bars are "legal" for women?
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Skipjack Joe
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Australian bars
It must have been 1955 when we arrived in Australia. I was 8 at the time. I remember my parents going to to have a beer at an establishment with a
'Hotel' sign over the front door on Puckle Street, Melbourne. We no sooner stepped in than we knew something was wrong. A couple of the men were
winking at mom and making suggestive noises. Her face grew red and she became real agitated. We left real fast outta there. On the way home they
talked about it and figured things out.
It takes time to understand the ways of people. European women often don't know that they're expected to shave their underarms in this country.
Another source of embarassment.
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FARASHA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
European women often don't know that they're expected to shave their underarms in this country. Another source of embarassment.
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 from where did you gather this Information?? Sounds an very OLD source of
embarassment. Depends which COUNTRY witin Europe you refere to!!
I'm European (Austrian) - and we do shave - not only underarms!!
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DENNIS
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So, lets see, where has this thread taken us?
If you meet a woman in a cantina who hasn't shaved, she may not be a woman?
Could it be the goatee that would give away the secret?
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by FARASHA
[ from where did you gather this Information?? Sounds an very OLD source of
embarassment. Depends which COUNTRY witin Europe you refere to!!
I'm European (Austrian) - and we do shave - not only underarms!! |
I'm sorry for taking so long Farasha. I tried to get in touch with Schwarzenegger's office to confirm your statements.
As stated above, those are memories from the 50's. They were mostly Italians.
A prior search of the internet showed that male-only bars are also a part of the past in Australia and you won't find them these days, either. The
women's movement changed that years ago.
BTW, the governor's reponse:
"In Kahleefohneea only girlie-boys shave their underarms" 
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bajaguy
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Somebody bashing Italians?????.........gee, hope not....whatsa matta for you, anyway????
Luigi, aka bajaguy
[Edited on 10-29-2006 by bajaguy]
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bajaguy
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I have enough trouble shaving my face
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FARASHA
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OMG you are funny GUYS - really. Well I will certainly NOT go into details. 
BUT it is quite common (females AND males) to have a good waxing job or a shave on hairy parts - especially Gay and Transvestites are extremely into
it.
We used to have special establishment for them - but nowadays - all mixed up, no one cares. Go wherever you want and do what ever pleases you, as long
as you stay within the law ( no sexual harassements, no kids molesting, etc.)
YOU can be dead sure that there is in Austria absolut no place a woman can't go. Equal rights for all. We have our own Ministry for it.
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Summanus
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and then there is 'sport shaving'...
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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FARASHA
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AND don't bother to ask ARNIE - he is too OLD to know whats going on here now.
When he left Austria he was on Steroids - something that inflicts memory and cognitive abilities - in exchange for build up muscles!!
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Summanus
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Certain women in 'Ladies Bars' might be suspect...as shari mentioned.
It might pay to wear your glasses.
Summanus....ancient Roman Nightly Thunder God. He liked refrieds too.
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