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puzzled.gif posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:16 PM
Expat, american, gringo, americano?


What would you prefer Mexicans to call you if your an american or foreigner living in Baja?



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:27 PM


I prefer Amigo



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:29 PM


I think few would care. Seems strange considering all the political "correctness" wrangling in the US. I believe it is good to be a gringo. I think only Mexicans consider it demeaning.



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:33 PM


Well, there has to be a preference. I know some who don't like to be called gringos. And amigo or señor is not descriptive of foreigners.



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:36 PM


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What would you prefer Mexicans to call you if your an american or foreigner living in Baja?


Expatriate is the most appropriate according to the dictionary.

Both american and americano could mean anyone from the USA, Canada, Chile, Peru, etc.. Norte Americano narrows it to only three countries. "Americano" is often used to imply one is from the USA; but, I prefer not to use it out of respect for all the other Americans not living in the USA. It's an ambiguous term at best.

I personally think "gringo" works the best in a casual setting becuase it is simple and understood everywhere. I don't find that it is a derogatory word in and of itself; although, it could be used in a derogatory context if the user so wished...yet so could any other label/term/word.

Amigo works well in casual settings and Senor/Senora/Senorita is appropriate in more formal settings.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:36 PM


I really don't care. I think "gringo" is supposed to be a derogatory word, but somehow it doesn't strike an emotional chord within me. I refer to myself as a gringo.

If it is used as a reference to a person by a Mexican, you will probably not hear it. Among friends, if a Mexican calls you any slang word, it is because he genuinely likes you. It is usually followed by lots of laughs.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:39 PM


I am called a pet name by friends...but am referred to and described to others as an Americano by the Mexicans I live with...this would be my preference. Gringo gets too much bad usage, expat seems a little silly and Casablance-like...while American is the wrong pronunciation.

Good quest. What would you prefer Americans to call you if you are a Mexican or foreigner living in the U.S.?




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Both american and americano could mean anyone from the USA, Canada, Chile, Peru, etc.. Norte Americano narrows it to only three countries. "Americano" is often used to imply one is from the USA; but, I prefer not to use it out of respect for all the other Americans not living in the USA. It's an ambiguous term at best.


This is news to many people from the U.S. Particularly politicians. Many are ignorant in their belief that we (from the U.S.A.) are the only Americans. Thank you for enlightening, Mango:light:
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:49 PM


Toneart

You explained my feelings perfectly.




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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:51 PM


it doesn't mater they will call you what ever they want. if they like you they will call you their Friend and if they don't they will call you something else. just like every ware in the world. it is up to each person to treat everyone with respect and it will be returned to you.



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:53 PM


I like to be called by my name.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:55 PM


Bruce I couldn't agree more, what ever happened to treating people with kidness and respect??? Act like an A$s get treated like an A$s ;)
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 05:59 PM


Well, i guess everything is o.k. as long as they don't call you "P-nche perro":lol:



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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 06:02 PM


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Well, i guess everything is o.k. as long as they don't call you "P-nche perro":lol:


they can even call me that if they are joking:lol:




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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 06:03 PM


Oh que, I must admit, I sure get snuggly warm inside and really feel like I belong and am respected when folks call me Dona, o.k, and if you want to smooze up to me, Jefa works real well too.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 06:33 PM


Gringo, no doubt! It's an old and fine definition of who I am in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 06:50 PM


Good question Jesse. I call myself a gringo, but now that I understand more of your language, I'll have to admit that when I heard a "friend" refer to me as a gringo when he KNEW my name, I was hurt. I really like vecino, but that too has its limitations. We, in my case, are all Californenos so that doesn't work. And saying that I'm from the United States is wrong too because yours are the United States of Mexico, right?

What ever you call me, just don't call me: "late for dinner".:lol:




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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 06:54 PM


Jesse -
You have to admit, " P-nche Gringo" is well used by Mexicans. That is derogatory.

What do Mexicans accept as a label?
Do Mexicans like being referred to as "Beaners " or " Greasers " or "Frijoleros" or Whatever?

It seems to me that derogatory name calling is fun when it comes from Mexicans but unacceptible when it is used by Norte Americanos.

Why is that, Jesse? It shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.
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[*] posted on 10-31-2006 at 07:15 PM


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Both american and americano could mean anyone from the USA, Canada, Chile, Peru, etc.. Norte Americano narrows it to only three countries. "Americano" is often used to imply one is from the USA; but, I prefer not to use it out of respect for all the other Americans not living in the USA. It's an ambiguous term at best.


This is news to many people from the U.S. Particularly politicians. Many are ignorant in their belief that we (from the U.S.A.) are the only Americans. Thank you for enlightening, Mango:light:


I recently heard the anti-immigration people use the fact that Latin Americans refer to themselves as "Americans" as proof that they want to make Mexico and the United States one country. Those people are ignorant of the fact that peoples from the Americas are all "Americans" because they live in North or South America. They are just blowing smoke.
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