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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 03:26 AM


If there were a way to have a gun in Mexico I would have one.......so I have 3 dogs....one being a staffordshire terrier just in case I need a weapon. I will not put myself in harms way for the bastards that sneak up on you in the night and harm you. It makes me sick to think of such tragedy happening.....and I too am meaner then a junk yard dog myself when threatened.....thanks for the post.....I give prayers for the ones who where so unfortuntate......
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 04:10 AM
MeToo!


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If there were a way to have a gun in Mexico I would have one.......so I have 3 dogs....one being a staffordshire terrier just in case I need a weapon. I will not put myself in harms way for the bastards that sneak up on you in the night and harm you. It makes me sick to think of such tragedy happening.....and I too am meaner then a junk yard dog myself when threatened.....thanks for the post.....I give prayers for the ones who where so unfortuntate......


I guess my first response would be :
WTF

I am shocked to say the least that I was not informed earlier of the heinous assault(s) Bruce reported here. I am feeling very uneasy right now. Bruce???????Text
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 04:48 AM


SHARKS you didn't hear ANYTHING while there?
Seems that people of Mulege don't tell each other to watch out and be prepaired!
Who's interest is it, to keep it covered!
Tourism Industry?
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 07:02 AM


Keep the Faith Nomads.
The people of the small Towns and Villages have a way of taking care of Their Loved ones who are subject to Assault.
They also will Protect their source of Income{Tourist and American Friends}.

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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 07:51 AM


Just a thought....I would keep an eye out for Tattooed Mexicans, that do not speak Mexican.



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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 09:21 AM


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Who's interest is it, to keep it covered!
Tourism Industry?


Yes Farasha: Tourism , real estate interests. , drug trade , power brokers, .

Its always about MONEY , your safety be damned.

Sra. Gaxiola couldn't have said it better. :no:

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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:23 AM


Bruce, thank you for posting! I am so sad to see this happen in Mulege. I have to say that I have always felt that the most dangerous part of our trip to Mulege has been making it through LA. We have always taken every precaution, locking things down and putting stuff up every night in camp as we know petty theft can happen. (any where) That kind of violence against tourists was stuff that until now I had only read about happening up in Northern Baja. (of course, I guess its stupid to think that bad people cant travel) We live in a very remote peaceful area (but rainy in Jan.) That’s why we have traveled all the way to the tip of Baja and the last 3 years have made our destination Mulege for the full vacation, as we love the relaxed pace. We have found it to be the best beaches for our children. Any other details someone wants to U2U me would be appericated. :?: ( I have some of the same questions as BajaBus; location, secluded etc.) I havent posted much over the years but I have watched the board for years and appericate greatly all of you who post.
This is diffently the last thing that Mulege needed right now with all that has happened with the flooding.
Thanks.... Carrol
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:25 AM
this post has been edited by Bruce R Leech under duress.


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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:30 AM


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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Keep the Faith Nomads.
The people of the small Towns and Villages have a way of taking care of Their Loved ones who are subject to Assault.
They also will Protect their source of Income{Tourist and American Friends}.

Skeet/Loreto


yeah - WITH 2 VICTIMS already, they did very well!
Nothing against their good will - but thats just not enough.
And people are kept without information, Sharks didn't hear anything and he was THERE, so did others who LIVE there.
Sorry, but I can't see that Skeet!

MAYBE Nomads should spread the NEWS by U2U to those,who are in the same area, (or about to go there) so they KNOW for WHAT/WHOM to look out!
So it wouldn't warn lurkers here.
And wouldn't expose those who give that information!
OR go to the CHATROOM.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:36 AM


Hi!
to all of you there
Have you ever lived in a big city??.... just follow the same security rules and you will have no troubles at all... It's a shame to mention this but looks like the kind of progress price to pay for this small and no ready yet for "development" towns :barf:
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:38 AM


opssssss I didn't want to go as far as the "smily" face I've chossen
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:39 AM


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this is the problem here when these things happen no one tells anyone else.If you are not connected to the local gov. then you don't know what is really going on. these post will probably blow our connection to the local Gov. and more. sorry I cant give more details, there are a Lot of them but I'm not saying more.


I do understand your point - you got to protect yourself and Family, no need to expose yourself.

I hope that those I know in Mulege, are safe and INFORMED. That is my biggest concern. There must be a way to communicate within the community in such events. To spread the word.
Makes me sick - that one has to fear not only the criminals, also the officials ( even more).
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:48 AM


NO need to be sorry about your smiley - it fits perfectly. mulegeloco!!

AND I do live in a BIG city - no tourists gets hacked here with a Macheta, or is murdered in his RV on an campingsite, by night, without anybody to hear about it within HOURS. No ONE gets problems because he speaks about it!!

What angers me is not the sheer crime - NO- its that people are not ALLOWED to TELL without to fear consequences.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 10:56 AM


Mulegeloco has it right. Baja Sur is following the path of the rest of the world. Progress brings both good and bad. I like others are shedding tears over the current affairs, events that didn't seem to happen in this little paradise. We all have to accept that crime and its consequences is a certainty we will all face eventually both at home and in Baja.

Will I stop coming down to Baja....NO!! We are coming down to Mulege next week, and will continue to come down. We will just be prepared a little differently than in the past.
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 11:05 AM


Mulege is a small town, its not like northern baja where criminals can hide in a city of 3 million. If these things are happening, whats going on with the Police over there? it doesnt seem to me this is anything more than regular criminals to me, so why arent they doing their job?



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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 11:12 AM


Jesse I thought you new Mexico better than that.



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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 11:17 AM


Jesse
Do you remember tree people shooted at La Paz downtown time ago?? Do you know what happened????... me neither. If that happens in La Paz, what could we expect from Mulege with only 8 uniformed policemen.....they will certainly like to have a 3 million people city resources too.....
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 11:19 AM


jajajajajaja sorryyyyy "three"
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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 11:41 AM


in small town the police know everyone but might step on the wrong ppl toes i think now the drugglords have everyone scard



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[*] posted on 11-14-2006 at 12:07 PM


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in small town the police know everyone but might step on the wrong ppl toes i think now the drugglords have everyone scard


EXACTLY!! The local police may be wondering just how connected some of their local crooks are to the cartels. As a result, they are reluctant to do much, after reading about cops in TJ, Rosarito, etc.
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