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losfrailes
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Crime Wave in Mulege
Interesting outlook from another resident of Mulege.
http://www.mulegespanglishnews.com/pg_3_editorial.htm
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bancoduo
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Two sides to every story; but one side is usually more creditable than the other. BRING IT ON!
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Sharksbaja
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Tuned in??
I sure am. Calling Bruce a liar does not wash, sorry. Why the hell do they think Bruce would post and behave like that.
Ah. for attention they say. Does this paper need credible news sources? They should have done their homework better and hang out less at dinner
parties in the enclaves.
Personal attacks will not get the crowd to applaud.
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Barry A.
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Spanglish news is really "off base" on this one, I believe. I have been on this forum for several years, and there have been reports of crime around
Mulege (Punta Chivato to S. Conception bay) for that entire time. Something is changing down there, and I, like Bruce, don't like it. I believe that
Bruce was just doing a service to others when he posted as he did---------who are we to judge what is prudent, and drama----------it is what it is,
and to be forewarned is to be prepared.
I, for one, choose to believe that Bruce was/is onto something, and I will take the proper precautions when in that area---------that is one of the
things that this "forum" is all about. So there is my "editorial".
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Minnow
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Where is Bruce? Certainly he needs to confront these allegations. FYI, and this needs to be stated. The moderator here, Hose A, is very good
friends with Mr. Leech. I have personally met them both. Though Bruce does not remember me and my wife being with JR when he first met him. They
watch each others backs, so to speak. So something needs to be said, and pronto. Is this a cover up, or will this post be deleted? Oh the subterfuge.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Minnow
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I feel a ban coming on. Oh well. the real powers will have to sort it out.:moon:
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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Natalie Ann
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I saw those posts... and they made derogatory remarks about another Nomad. Had they not been removed from the thread, I would have reported them
based on that. Ya can't just go saying nastiness or untruths about one person in order to protect another. MHO.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Bajamatic
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I'm confused. Didn't bruce post about someone dying by machette on the beach, and didn't it turn out to be true? I think I missed something here.
that article said nothing more than Bruce is a liar, yet it wasn't a lie? I wonder just who has the agenda here - clearly Adrian, no?
yuletide
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Minnow
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No, here is what happened. Bruce was revealed to be the savior of Mulege. The pied piper of gringos. He led them out of town with his rapior whit,
and savior fair. In the end all the gringos were saved from the evil empire of the drug lords. Viva Bruce.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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comitan
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Minnow
Are bored with the Nomads already?
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Minnow
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You are right comitan. This bored is much better at being superficial. Lo Siento.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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soulpatch
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It's good to be b-tchen.
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Pescador
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Holy cow, this sure gets sidetracked easily. I read Bruce's post and read Adrians editorial in the Spanglish news and I did not come to the
conclusions that everyone else if hitting right away.
I think Adrian stated that Bruce may have used theatrics to get his point across with the issue of duress. That may have been as simple as someone
saying they were unhappy with Bruce's comments or may have gone as far in one's imagination as saying that he had a pistol held to his head to
retract.
In any case, I think the issue is not one of whether Bruce is a good guy or not but that if one is going to report things on a forum, they are
better off if they remain factual and less theatrical. I suspect that if there was a problem with the posts, it would have been simple for Bruce to
have deleted his posts.
Again, I don't pretend to have any idea what Bruce was or is thinking, but I felt that Adrian's editorial reflected his opinion and was worded
carefully not to be a flame on Bruce but a call for objectivity.
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Barry A.
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Pescador------
-----you ARE kidding, RIGHT??????
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Sharksbaja
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My take....again
Quote: | Originally posted by Minnow
No, here is what happened. Bruce was revealed to be the savior of Mulege. The pied piper of gringos. He led them out of town with his rapior whit,
and savior fair. In the end all the gringos were saved from the evil empire of the drug lords. Viva Bruce. |
Well you're close. Bruce was out rescuing people all day and then some. He also aided the bomberos and took footage of the disaster as it was
happening. He was probably the first to get to Sta. Rosalia and back when the road was in bad shape and reported the problems as he saw them.. He
reported good solid credible info that helped many. If these folks think his motivations are based on attention they haven't been paying
attention.
His choice of words regarding the crime wave may have scared a few but he tells it as he sees it. Do those fry-cooks know why he did and all those
things and said all those things. Bruce is not an egomaniac as they suggest.
I don't think Bruce has alterior motives. His post got cut short when he felt threatened. If folks don't believe him then so be it. They did not see
what transpired at street level.
Pescador, you don't find the remarks about Bruce inaccurate? Cmon, words like"fabricate", "mindless sensationalism", "groundless rumors" and
"half-baked rhetoric " are printed to discredit Bruce.
Bullcaca. Bruce has an excellent reputation and is an outstanding citizen of Mulege. Would certain authorities reveal to the reporters stuff that
could damage their rep. I hardly think so. Good grief., don't ythey know at the newspaper that they may not be protected by free speech. Slandor is a
big no-no in Mexico.
Gee, I never heard one word about his contribution(s) to Mulege.
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CasaManzana
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Pescador...right on...thanks for the clear observation-
As I saw it, the newspaper was just calling on "less drama", and wondering why the theatrical posting was necessary. You might not have read it if
you weren't reading it the first day, but Bruce's posting said " this posting might not last long because of reasons I can't tell you". The next day
he edited the posting and all that turned into dust....you never got to read that first part. About half of what Bruce said turned out to have some
truth in it, as Adrian said. Why call a ten alarm fire when a two alarm is enough. Maybe half of what Bruce posted turned out to be something other
than fact. I'm from the SF Bay area many years ago. As I read the paper daily there then...OMG! Here it's so peaceful, if we get one ripple on the
water we think the sky is falling. I think Adrian's position is spot on.
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Sharksbaja
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Barry A.
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Oh-----my-----God!!!!! (Maybe the fact that CasaMazana is from the Bay area explains it)
and yes, I saw all the original "Bruce" posts. I will stick to all my comments-----------Adrian wrote a very derogatory editorial about Bruce, and I
do not agree with most of it.
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capt. mike
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who's Adrian??
is mulege just another "peyton place"?
i think so..............but it shore is fun!
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Don Alley
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I think message board stuff should stay on the message board, and if this Adrian character has a problem with what Bruce posts he should answer here,
to Bruce and to Nomads who read Bruce's posts. I find it heavy handed and chickensh*t to editorialize this vitriolic attack as he did from the high
horse of his personal web "newspaper" where direct response is so restricted, if even possible.
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