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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 03:48 PM
Crime Wave in Mulege


Interesting outlook from another resident of Mulege.

http://www.mulegespanglishnews.com/pg_3_editorial.htm
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 04:16 PM


Two sides to every story; but one side is usually more creditable than the other. BRING IT ON!:no:
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 04:23 PM
Tuned in??


I sure am. Calling Bruce a liar does not wash, sorry. Why the hell do they think Bruce would post and behave like that.

Ah. for attention they say. Does this paper need credible news sources? They should have done their homework better and hang out less at dinner parties in the enclaves.

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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 04:28 PM


Spanglish news is really "off base" on this one, I believe. I have been on this forum for several years, and there have been reports of crime around Mulege (Punta Chivato to S. Conception bay) for that entire time. Something is changing down there, and I, like Bruce, don't like it. I believe that Bruce was just doing a service to others when he posted as he did---------who are we to judge what is prudent, and drama----------it is what it is, and to be forewarned is to be prepared.

I, for one, choose to believe that Bruce was/is onto something, and I will take the proper precautions when in that area---------that is one of the things that this "forum" is all about. So there is my "editorial".
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 04:44 PM


Where is Bruce? Certainly he needs to confront these allegations. FYI, and this needs to be stated. The moderator here, Hose A, is very good friends with Mr. Leech. I have personally met them both. Though Bruce does not remember me and my wife being with JR when he first met him. They watch each others backs, so to speak. So something needs to be said, and pronto. Is this a cover up, or will this post be deleted? Oh the subterfuge.



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 05:32 PM


I feel a ban coming on. Oh well. the real powers will have to sort it out.:moon:



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 05:57 PM


I saw those posts... and they made derogatory remarks about another Nomad. Had they not been removed from the thread, I would have reported them based on that. Ya can't just go saying nastiness or untruths about one person in order to protect another. MHO.



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 06:03 PM


I'm confused. Didn't bruce post about someone dying by machette on the beach, and didn't it turn out to be true? I think I missed something here. that article said nothing more than Bruce is a liar, yet it wasn't a lie? I wonder just who has the agenda here - clearly Adrian, no?



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 06:17 PM


No, here is what happened. Bruce was revealed to be the savior of Mulege. The pied piper of gringos. He led them out of town with his rapior whit, and savior fair. In the end all the gringos were saved from the evil empire of the drug lords. Viva Bruce.:spingrin:



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 06:43 PM


Minnow

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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 06:52 PM


You are right comitan. This bored is much better at being superficial. Lo Siento.:yawn:



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 06:57 PM


It's good to be b-tchen.:yawn:



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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 07:44 PM


Holy cow, this sure gets sidetracked easily. I read Bruce's post and read Adrians editorial in the Spanglish news and I did not come to the conclusions that everyone else if hitting right away.
I think Adrian stated that Bruce may have used theatrics to get his point across with the issue of duress. That may have been as simple as someone saying they were unhappy with Bruce's comments or may have gone as far in one's imagination as saying that he had a pistol held to his head to retract.
In any case, I think the issue is not one of whether Bruce is a good guy or not but that if one is going to report things on a forum, they are better off if they remain factual and less theatrical. I suspect that if there was a problem with the posts, it would have been simple for Bruce to have deleted his posts.
Again, I don't pretend to have any idea what Bruce was or is thinking, but I felt that Adrian's editorial reflected his opinion and was worded carefully not to be a flame on Bruce but a call for objectivity.
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 08:54 PM
Pescador------


-----you ARE kidding, RIGHT?????? :O
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 08:54 PM
My take....again


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No, here is what happened. Bruce was revealed to be the savior of Mulege. The pied piper of gringos. He led them out of town with his rapior whit, and savior fair. In the end all the gringos were saved from the evil empire of the drug lords. Viva Bruce.:spingrin:


Well you're close. Bruce was out rescuing people all day and then some. He also aided the bomberos and took footage of the disaster as it was happening. He was probably the first to get to Sta. Rosalia and back when the road was in bad shape and reported the problems as he saw them.. He reported good solid credible info that helped many. If these folks think his motivations are based on attention they haven't been paying attention.

His choice of words regarding the crime wave may have scared a few but he tells it as he sees it. Do those fry-cooks know why he did and all those things and said all those things. Bruce is not an egomaniac as they suggest.
I don't think Bruce has alterior motives. His post got cut short when he felt threatened. If folks don't believe him then so be it. They did not see what transpired at street level.

Pescador, you don't find the remarks about Bruce inaccurate? Cmon, words like"fabricate", "mindless sensationalism", "groundless rumors" and "half-baked rhetoric " are printed to discredit Bruce.

Bullcaca. Bruce has an excellent reputation and is an outstanding citizen of Mulege. Would certain authorities reveal to the reporters stuff that could damage their rep. I hardly think so. Good grief., don't ythey know at the newspaper that they may not be protected by free speech. Slandor is a big no-no in Mexico.

Gee, I never heard one word about his contribution(s) to Mulege.
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 09:03 PM
Pescador...right on...thanks for the clear observation-


As I saw it, the newspaper was just calling on "less drama", and wondering why the theatrical posting was necessary. You might not have read it if you weren't reading it the first day, but Bruce's posting said " this posting might not last long because of reasons I can't tell you". The next day he edited the posting and all that turned into dust....you never got to read that first part. About half of what Bruce said turned out to have some truth in it, as Adrian said. Why call a ten alarm fire when a two alarm is enough. Maybe half of what Bruce posted turned out to be something other than fact. I'm from the SF Bay area many years ago. As I read the paper daily there then...OMG! Here it's so peaceful, if we get one ripple on the water we think the sky is falling. I think Adrian's position is spot on.
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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 09:09 PM


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[*] posted on 1-5-2007 at 09:49 PM


Oh-----my-----God!!!!! (Maybe the fact that CasaMazana is from the Bay area explains it) :?:

and yes, I saw all the original "Bruce" posts. I will stick to all my comments-----------Adrian wrote a very derogatory editorial about Bruce, and I do not agree with most of it.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 05:24 AM


who's Adrian??

is mulege just another "peyton place"?

i think so..............but it shore is fun!




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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 09:24 AM


I think message board stuff should stay on the message board, and if this Adrian character has a problem with what Bruce posts he should answer here, to Bruce and to Nomads who read Bruce's posts. I find it heavy handed and chickensh*t to editorialize this vitriolic attack as he did from the high horse of his personal web "newspaper" where direct response is so restricted, if even possible.
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