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[*] posted on 2-9-2007 at 09:54 PM
Baja Missions from space!


This is a list of links to satellite photos of mission sites... only those covered by high resolution photography are listed.

After clicking on a link, enlarge the new window then click on 'Link to this page' to make the photo large as possible.

Guadalupe del Norte

San Miguel de la Frontera

Santo Tomas (final site)

San Vicente

Santo Domingo (half in low resolution)

San Pedro Martir

Rosario (de Arriba)

Rosario (de Abajo)

San Fernando Velicata

Calamajue (first site of Santa Maria)

San Francisco Borja

San Ignacio

Loreto

San Francisco Javier

Comondu Viejo (?)

San Jose de Comondu

San Luis Gonzaga

No ruins at La Purisima, Ligui, La Paz, Santiago, & San Jose del Cabo

Only a wall at Todos Santos

Dolores (del Sur), Santa Maria, Santo Tomas 1st site, Santa Catalina & Descanso are not in high resolution areas...







[Edited on 2-13-2007 by David K]




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[*] posted on 2-10-2007 at 05:43 AM


Fantastic David! Nice to see the spots walked upon from on high. Hope to see more.

5 AM, La Paz, headed out to hike up to El Zalate (Angel de la Guarda). Visita site?? Will know this PM. Still green, highs in the 80's.
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[*] posted on 2-10-2007 at 10:42 AM


Nice, wow! Nice seeing that Mission SPM country again--I can see the trees we camped under three years ago! Can't find the zig zag trail down the Sierra San Miguel though--thought that would stand out better.
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[*] posted on 2-10-2007 at 11:20 AM


HELP - I AM Addicted, to those satellite photos - seeking a 12 steps programm!!
Can hang in there for HOURS !!

Thanks David >f<

[Edited on 10-2-2007 by FARASHA]




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[*] posted on 2-10-2007 at 11:33 AM


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Nice, wow! Nice seeing that Mission SPM country again--I can see the trees we camped under three years ago! Can't find the zig zag trail down the Sierra San Miguel though--thought that would stand out better.


I posted it as 'Trail' in the thread on San Isidoro... Here it is again, the switchback just above Arroyo El Horno... and use your mouse to follow it up to the mission...

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[*] posted on 2-10-2007 at 04:18 PM


Nice job DK! That trail was pretty steep, especially after hoofing it up the riverbeds and three of us coming down with colds from the previous afternoons thunderstorm dunking that we weren't very well prepared for...I really want to explore the area south of there more one of these years--say do a hike between SPM and Matomi...If you've ever been to the south end of the SPM Park and seen the view out towards Matomi you know what I'm talking about.
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[*] posted on 2-11-2007 at 10:40 AM


Sounds fantastic... Do you have any photos???



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[*] posted on 2-11-2007 at 12:04 PM
Up Up and Away


An oblique view from Google Earth, showing the at least a 1,000 foot climb from the river to the top. Brings back painful hip memories....
Line is from the GPS track; which even picked up the off trail trip to the creek to get water for the hike to the top. However please note, that this does not exactly follow the trail, as the GPS was not "continuously" taking points (probably a point every 2 minutes to save memory), but each point is on the trail, or within 5 meters.

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[*] posted on 2-11-2007 at 08:11 PM


Taco--I thought the elevation gain was more like 2,000 feet....that last part at the top was the burner but was also where the old trail was still well defined.
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[*] posted on 2-12-2007 at 06:59 PM


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Fantastic David! Nice to see the spots walked upon from on high. Hope to see more.

5 AM, La Paz, headed out to hike up to El Zalate (Angel de la Guarda). Visita site?? Will know this PM. Still green, highs in the 80's.


Jack, I tried to spot Comondu Viejo (1st site for San Jose de Comondu)... Please check the link and if those ruins aren't right, could you scroll around and spot it? The road between San Juan and the driveway for La Presa is where G&G places Comondu Viejo. As the road crosses the arroyo between those two points it may be easy to find if you remember where it is in relation to the arroyo crossings.

G&G places the ruins 1.1 miles south of San Juan and 0.5 mile north of the La Presa driveway...

San Juan

Ruins of Comondu Viejo???

La Presa driveway

Thanks Jack!

If I have the energy, I could input the GPS for Viejo...! LOL




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[*] posted on 7-13-2007 at 05:57 PM


Jack Swords... are you there?



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[*] posted on 7-13-2007 at 06:30 PM
Comondu Viejo


Hola David...checking in.

We crossed the arroyo, checked in with a local in the area, drove down the road where directed, walked into a low wall, followed the wall to the ruins. Two structures, adobe one and the stone one. Adobe was just foundation, stone was still intact. I walked east and climbed the ridge for more photos (you can see it on Google). Then after we drove down the road a bit towards the presa, on our left was the cleared field and the rock wall constructed from the rocks removed from the field (also visible on Google). The house visible on Google was where we got info, second house was unoccupied. This was just after a major hurricane and all was flooded, dead stock, roads just deep cobble. Anyway, look at 111º 43'06.21W X 26º16'22.30N. My Google Earth here shows it pretty well. Need to revise coordinates.

[Edited on 14-7-2007 by Jack Swords]
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[*] posted on 11-9-2008 at 09:55 AM


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Hola David...checking in.

We crossed the arroyo, checked in with a local in the area, drove down the road where directed, walked into a low wall, followed the wall to the ruins. Two structures, adobe one and the stone one. Adobe was just foundation, stone was still intact. I walked east and climbed the ridge for more photos (you can see it on Google). Then after we drove down the road a bit towards the presa, on our left was the cleared field and the rock wall constructed from the rocks removed from the field (also visible on Google). The house visible on Google was where we got info, second house was unoccupied. This was just after a major hurricane and all was flooded, dead stock, roads just deep cobble. Anyway, look at 111º 43'06.21W X 26º16'22.30N. My Google Earth here shows it pretty well. Need to revise coordinates.

[Edited on 14-7-2007 by Jack Swords]


Jack, I was not sure what map datum your GPS is at, but in Dave Werschkul's book he has the waypoint for Comondu Viejo at N26º16'27.3" W111º43'08.4" (WGS84) and mentions the ruins were about 50 yards (150') north of the rancho.

I entered his waypoint onto Wikimapia.org and marked the spot: http://wikimapia.org/#lat=26.274250&lon=-111.71900&z...

Here is the direct link:Comondu Viejo from space

Here is your photo of the Comondu Viejo ruins:


The GPS originally given with your photo (26º16.45' 111º43.15') is right next to Dave's... so this location would seem to be correct. Also, you can see an El Camino Real trail heading to the southwest from the site.

[Edited on 11-9-2008 by David K]




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[*] posted on 11-9-2008 at 10:21 AM


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This is a list of links to satellite photos of mission sites... only those covered by high resolution photography are listed.

After clicking on a link, enlarge the new window then click on 'Link to this page' to make the photo large as possible.

Guadalupe del Norte

San Miguel de la Frontera

Santo Tomas (final site)

San Vicente

Santo Domingo (half in low resolution)

San Pedro Martir

Rosario (de Arriba)

Rosario (de Abajo)

San Fernando Velicata

Calamajue (first site of Santa Maria)

San Francisco Borja

San Ignacio

Loreto

San Francisco Javier

Comondu Viejo (?)

San Jose de Comondu

San Luis Gonzaga

No ruins at La Purisima, Ligui, La Paz, Santiago, & San Jose del Cabo

Only a wall at Todos Santos

Dolores (del Sur), Santa Maria, Santo Tomas 1st site, Santa Catalina & Descanso are not in high resolution areas...

Stay tuned for fresh links!






[Edited on 2-13-2007 by David K]


Since this post, more of Baja is in high or higher than before resolution!

Dolores del Sur/ Apate

Dolores del Sur 2nd site/ Chilla (La Pasion)

Santa Maria de los Angeles

Mision Santo Tomas 1st site

Mision Santa Catalina site

El Descanso mission site

[Edited on 11-9-2008 by David K]




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