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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 06:41 AM


The quote cited from the base of the Statue of Liberty is in error and taken from its context. The sentence from the sonnet ,"The New Colossus" continues...yearning to breathe free.
The message of the sonnet is one of people exiled and/or seeking freedom from religious and political oppression. It honors the United States and the millions of immigrants and refugees who endured, as an example, the painful process of Ellis Island to enter this the U.S. legally.

The U.S has been highly differentiated from most countries in the world by the strength and stability. It's Rule of Law has long been the cornerstone of that, exemplified in the vast majority of its population respecting the law.

Better I think for the President of any country to work 24/7 until HE drops in his tracks for the economic growth of his country rather than encourage his citizens to break the laws of another country.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 06:59 AM


"The U.S has been highly differentiated from most countries in the world by the strength and stability. It's Rule of Law has long been the cornerstone of that, exemplified in the vast majority of its population respecting the law."

True and nicely said; but, I guess it's just my nature to ask you if you would have been a loyalist or revolutionary, if living in one of the original colonies in the mid-1700s.

Someone mentioned that what Calderon said is traditionally said by Mexican Presidents in their first speech to the nation. If true the alleged significance is lessened. I don't know what all the hubbub is about anyway.

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by oldhippie]
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 07:07 AM


I'm an Alden.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 07:13 AM


Revolution it is!! You get my point though.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 07:22 AM


I certainly do and it is well expressed and well taken. Including, by the way, the hubbub part. God help us when we immediately get our knickers in a twist with political rhetoric. It's difficult, I think, to be rational when your knickers are twisted.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 07:26 AM


That's why I retired and live in boxer shorts and t-shirts all day.:cool:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 07:30 AM


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 08:05 AM


Boxers it is if any is absolutely necessary.

I have watched the rule of law erode in this country in my life time but at least the rhetoric remains.

I stand corrected in my taking the quote out of context. You are right.

I do however want to point out that we all tend to be ethnocentric and often forget that other people are that way too.

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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 08:44 AM


I hope to join the Boxer Rebellion later this year.

But, as I will be working a lote into something inhabitable, it might offend the neighbors until some kind of structure is up.

Just fighting the exodus of Mexicans to the States by evening the score by two..........




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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 08:57 AM


Boxer Rebellion - that's a good one.

"But, as I will be working a lote into something inhabitable, it might offend the neighbors until some kind of structure is up."

Just sew up the fly. ;D
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 09:37 AM


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I'm an Alden.


DearOldLady, you taught me something on the origin of the Statue's inscription, and for that I thank you, but what, may I ask, is an "Alden?" Maybe I'm just being dense. It wouldn't be the first time.




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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 09:42 AM


Have some fun...check on some of the earliEST American history....I just gave you 2 clues. :lol:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 09:45 AM


Alden of the Mayflower? Are you a closet Pilgrim, DearOldLady? Sorry, I couldn't resist? ;)



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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 09:49 AM


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Alden of the Mayflower? Are you a closet Pilgrim, DearOldLady? Sorry, I couldn't resist? ;)


Is that something like sticking to " the now old " adage of, if you don't know, " Google it ":lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 09:53 AM


Yes, EdInNopolo, that is exactly what it is, and I say that with no regret. Google has put the knoweldge of the world, literally at our fingertips.



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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 10:00 AM


Exactly what I hoped he would do! Yep, Alden of the Mayflower. It was a pretty small boat...crammed with a lot of scruffy people...with that in your lineage wouldn't you stay in the closet?
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 10:13 AM


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Exactly what I hoped he would do! Yep, Alden of the Mayflower. It was a pretty small boat...crammed with a lot of scruffy people...with that in your lineage wouldn't you stay in the closet?


A member of the Daughters of the Mayflower! Even better than a DAR! I never thought I'd meet one of you here in Old Mexico. I'm honored.




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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 10:45 AM


Google is great. I just found out that Benedict Arnold's ancestors landed at Plymouth Rock. So much for lineage. I know, I'm a jerk. :tumble:
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 11:14 AM


Funny how the term, "Boat People," has changed with time.
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[*] posted on 9-11-2007 at 03:06 PM


Amen.
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