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[*] posted on 1-21-2008 at 09:46 PM


A good pictoral of petros, gracias.
What happened to your profound boycott??

Tease us some more please.:lol:

btw.....you guys look more alike every day I think.:O.




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[*] posted on 1-22-2008 at 10:05 AM


Profound? Well, I guess you just can't keep the boy out of the Baja!:bounce::bounce::bounce::lol::cool::spingrin:



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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 11:56 AM


Great trip report DK--I thought La Vibora looked familiar--we have been calling it Ruby Canyon though...
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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 03:27 PM


Did anybody ever find out what caused the fire?.....
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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 04:32 PM


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Great trip report DK--I thought La Vibora looked familiar--we have been calling it Ruby Canyon though...


Yep-------and we always called it "RUBI" canyon (as I have said in previous posts). Until now I did not know that Rubi (Ruby) was probably one and the same as La Vibora canyon. You can access Rubi's (La Vibora's) mid-reaches directly by foot from just down stream from the Guadalupe Canyon camps, walking south thru a strike valley----easy walking. This strike valley shows up plainly on the topo maps-----lots of indications of habitation throughout this "strike valley", as well as remains of a native American trail system.

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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 05:03 PM


Barry--Yes, I remember Myron Smith talking of those trails in year's past--he explored that area quite a bit more than I ever have (my haunts generally south and at mid-elevations or on the coast). In fact, Rubi Canyon was one of the campsites for his last trip to Baja in 2000 that I was fortunate enough to be on. He also mentioned a "gunsite pass" that may have been on that trail...or maybe it was in Parral Canyon(?).
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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 05:14 PM


"Gunsight Pass"-----???? Hmmmmm, that one does not ring a bell with me, but I do know "Parral Canyon". I camped with Myron in Agua Caliente canyon below (south of) Picacho del Diablo way back in the early 60's-----we also Jeeped further south to the other palm canyons------but I think we discussed that before.

You could spend a lifetime exploring the canyons of the Sierra Juarez and San Pedro Martir and still not see it all.

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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 06:09 PM


Just FYI, Baja Nomad 'jide' from France, living for a time in San Diego, loved the canyons of the Sierra Juarez and San Pedro Martir...

I made a web page of his photos of The Sierra Juarez' Tajo Canyon and Carrizo Canyon: http://vivabaja.com/jide

'jide' and I did some Sierra San Pedro Martir canyon exploring in 2004 (met Baja Lou and Mexitron, Taco de Baja, Pappy at Parral Canyon) then went north to Berrendo, Carrizo, Agua Caliente and El Cajon canyons: http://vivabaja.com/404

Mexitron sent me some great photos of his Matomi Mountain and Mesa Avion climbs and his deep up Matomi Canyon hike after we met him. See them at http://vivabaja.com/mexitron

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[*] posted on 1-23-2008 at 07:40 PM


Why nobody likes PALOMAR CANYON.I hear I lot of stories about dif, canyons and people seem to forget PALOMAR..Remember Palomar has Hotsprings too,also rock art..

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 08:24 AM


Palomar is nice, the road probably dissuades folks from going in too often.

Ever follow the canyon out into the desert? That's a big wash and my recollection is you can find palm trunks washed way out away from the canyon from hurricanes...
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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 11:43 AM


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Palomar is nice, the road probably dissuades folks from going in too often.

Ever follow the canyon out into the desert? That's a big wash and my recollection is you can find palm trunks washed way out away from the canyon from hurricanes...
No i haven't,but the road only gets bad when you start climbing towards the end of the canyon.

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 12:00 PM


Palomar Canyon (the Mother of all washes)-------In the late 50's there was a fair road up Palomar to a small rancho in a grove of trees----really nice place------and from there you could easily hike to the hot springs--------This road was so good that we took big 4 ton stakeside trucks into the rancho--------I understand that road was taken out in the Tropical storms of 1976 and 1977--------in the '80's I tried to drive up several times in a 4x4 but could not as "no road"-------

-----so, how far can you drive up now??? anybody know???
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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 12:06 PM


Barry you could drive all the way to the end of the road,past the palms grove and the old house,you go throught about 3 dry arroyos like the one in my last pict. here is the end of the road in Palomar.


This is as how far you can drive. from here is a short walk to the Hotsprings

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 12:08 PM


The palm grove,this place gave my truck a really nice paintstripe..

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 12:12 PM


Wow, that is great, Cat. Thank you.

I think that this pic of your truck is even beyond where I drove in the 50's. In those days the road pretty much hugged the south side of the canyon, as I remember------the canyon of Palomar was very wide and full of boulders below the Rancho. The Rancho was active when we were there, and they did not want us driving up canyon beyond the cabin. I cannot remember if the "road" actually went beyond, but you certainly seem to be up-canyon further than I got.

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 12:17 PM


We found this bldg close to the hotsprings,don't know what it is?.

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 04:25 PM


Hi,

I have just visited Guadalupe Canyon on Sunday ( Jan , 20, 2008 ) - short trip from the 3rd waterfall to Rancho Sausualito and Rancho Pantalones and returned down that easy trail from Rancho San Luis through "La Vibora "and asked the host of the southern part of oasis ( with La Piedra and La Playita campsites ) about the purpose of the fire in October. They suppose that it was done on purpose by some jealous neighbors - somebody noticed a group of 10 , which could make the arson.
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Ps Surely you know about the painted rock in Carrizo - photographed by "jide", together with "jide" I saw also many pieces of indian Pottery above middle part of Guadalupe Canyon, and there is many pictures of Water Gods which show where is possible to dig out water in the upper dry washes - as the Piedras Pinturas wash below the Rancho Sausualito.
Ps Ps Photo is made by my friend Sebastian on our way from Carrizo to Sausualito , the height about 1000 m above La Lagna Salada

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 04:33 PM


What neigbors?,So you guys climb from G-Canyon to Laguna Hanson Mesa and then down the Rancho San Luis trail?


Rncho San Luis

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 04:36 PM


Rock formation on the trail that leads to Laguna Salada,we just walk about 1/4 of the trail,we run out of time.

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[*] posted on 1-24-2008 at 04:38 PM


I recall that the old building was a bathhouse built by someone who was going to try and make the springs there a destination--probably the same person who cemented the tub in the pic.
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