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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
The term now joins normalcy, irregardless, hopefully and "I could care less" as having entered common usage by error but are now entrenched.
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Add "basically" and "like"
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bajalera
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Have you noticed that the word "use" is fast becoming obsolete, being displaced by "utilize"? I even heard a sportcaster say that a football team was
utilizing a pass strategy to its advantage--that's going too dang far..
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Pompano
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Word evolutions....Would you care to 'opine' on that further?...Now who always says that?......
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera
Have you noticed that the word "use" is fast becoming obsolete, being displaced by "utilize"? I even heard a sportcaster say that a football team was
utilizing a pass strategy to its advantage--that's going too dang far.. |
Bajalara,
I believe it comes from military usage
CaboRon
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ElFaro
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Please, Please…
Let us "Eschew Obfuscation" in this thread!!
Uh? 
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Word evolutions....Would you care to 'opine' on that further?...Now who always says that?...... |
the ugliest of 'mericans!! (if indeed ur referring to faux news)
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
A jury of loons does not count!!!
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Wrong! It does on this board.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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bancoduo
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"mericans"? Thats Texas pigeon english.
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vgabndo
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Listen to people speaking nearby. How often do you hear the "t" pronounced in often (not my original subject) or the use of a word that must be
spelled IGGZAKKLEE. There is a rarely used word in our idiom which is pronounced:
EX ACT LEE. This error is practiced most commonly, it seems, by the people who are earning huge dollars talking for a living on TV.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Skipjack Joe
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Vgabndo, you just may have to report us all to professor Higgins.
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bufeo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dean miller
300 people on this forum visted the post and one would assume read the post..
3 responded..
1%
Warms the heart..
sdm |
I thought you were just reviewing a book, ergo no need for a reply since there was no question.
A good novel, UA, not a classic, but it did have some influence in the late 1950s. I think that Burdick and Lederer collaborated on three or
four novels of which Fail Safe is probably the most notable. In any case when I read your post and therefore became one of the ‘views’ I saw
no reason to add a rejoinder—in much the same way I do with most posts on the forums I peruse. Sort of like reading a newspaper, or, in some cases, a
tabloid.
Ahhhh, but I returned to see what all the subsequent posts were about and came across one that did intrigue me.
Since I, too, indulge in that rather esoteric trivial pastime of tracing the linguistic ancestry of obscure words (especially those of the English and
French languages), Oso’s post caught my eye immediately.
At the risk of being accused of taking a thread off-topic, I will confess to that egregious infraction up front. Guilty as charged.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Ah etymology! One of my favorite trivial pursuits. Did you know that "bigot" originally meant "one who does not share a common prejudice? It came from
a Norman noble instructed,as a symbol of vassaldom, to kiss the foot of Charles The Simple, King of France. The old viking roared "Ne se, bi got!"
(Not me, by god). |
Oso, I’ve seen that reference to the origin of bigot before, but I choose to follow the words of the esteemed scholars of the OED. They seem
to think that Wace’s rather entertaining description of the Norman pirate Rollo’s reply to a command to kiss the foot of Charles III (the “Simple”) as
being “…absurdly incongruous with facts.” Perhaps since Rollo was Simple Chuck’s son-in-law there may have been a command to perform that rather
obsequious act, and Rollo’s reputation would most certainly lead one to think that he could have uttered such a phrase, but history leads one in
another linguistic direction.
The fact that Wace of Jersey, the 12th century poet to whom this bit of trivia is attributed, had already used the word bigot as a reference to
Normans in a former work seems to have slipped the poet’s mind when he formed the above conclusion in Roman de Rou. Wace’s legend also
ignores the fact that the term appeared in an earlier chanson de geste in a reference to Charles Martel (the “Hammer”) when he absconded with the wife
of Girard de Roussillon.
Under the circumstances and with all due respect I think I’ll continue to hold that the precise origin of the word bigot is lost in obscurity.
Oso, so as not to derail this thread too much, I’ll check my U2U box occasionally and see if you have other ideas.
[Edited on 1-25-2008 by bufeo]
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Oso
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Nah, I'll just stand corrected in the face of superior extensive research.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Some....I say some.....Canadians should read the booklet, "How to use a trash can" before coming to Mexico. They have earned a bad reputation for
themselves here and more so down on the mainland for this reason.
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The reputation I know is of being cheapskates in general and poor tippers in particular.
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gibson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Some....I say some.....Canadians should read the booklet, "How to use a trash can" before coming to Mexico. They have earned a bad reputation for
themselves here and more so down on the mainland for this reason.
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The reputation I know is of being cheapskates in general and poor tippers in particular. |
last time I was in Canada tipping wasn't part of the culture which would render your comment nothing short of pathetic.
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Roberto
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Well, maybe - but it ain't my comment buddy, but that of the Mexicanos whose country visit. 
I don't work for tips, so it don't mean diddly to me.
[Edited on 1-25-2008 by Roberto]
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Pompano
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Great Scott! This is getting ugly..
Another thread hijacked..and now, more of that insanity.
Pagophobia brought many nomadic types to Baja. Oxyacanthous! shouted Nomads, describing the Baja countryside...while
many Macrologists were evident in thier company. Heeding AlGore's warnings about global warming, many Paralian Baja
dwellers became alarmed. Soon, Agenhinas in Baja became commonplace and a welcome status amongst Nomads. Unfortunately,
Narcokleptocracy would soon make for endless Nomad posts. Now, certain rumblings are felt..but not the ones in Asuncion...rather
Opsophagy, which is a Baja passion, too.
By the way, the expression Great Scott!....an exclamation of surprise or amazement...came from one of America's most admired soldiers of the 19th
Century, General Winfield Scott. I believe there was a certain 'ugly' war going on...
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Sharksbaja
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I like to use utilize Lucys' exclamation "Good Grief" and this thread is well suited for such.
| Quote: | The reputation I know is of being cheapskates in general and poor tippers in particular
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Eh???
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Oso
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
The reputation I know is of being cheapskates in general and poor tippers in particular. |
True enough, but they're very polite about it.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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dean miller
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CANADIAN SHOPPING --BOXING DAY
I recall some years ago -possibly 15 or more when the US dollar was very strong and the Canadian dollar weak some where around 60 cents Canadian to
American dollar.
It was winter --I was visiting friends in Toronto, Canada I had arrived in SoCal warm clothes, hardly adequate for the Canadian winter but I made do
until Boxing day - the day after Christmas when all stores have supper sales every thing related to winter is on sale at a greatly reduced price.
I purchased a tan "Canadian Duffel Coat" and immediately placed it on my cold California body-- and did it feel great!
I was standing out side a woman's clothing store waiting for my wife who was inside also taking advantage of the Boxing sale, when a Canadian
gentleman joined me as is often the case when the lady folks are shopping.
Assuming I was a 100% Canadian who was wearing the national coat turned to me and stated "Those darn Americans look at the trash all around the
mall." I noticed boxes, bags and all sorts of shopping debris and even people discarding their old clothes and putting on new recently purchased
Canadian items. All I could safely respond under the circumstances was "Eh?" and lucky for me my wife arrived at that very moment and with out
uttering anthing we departed poste haste.
That evening on Canadian news there was a snippet displaying the route to the border littered with discard boxes, bags, old clothes, etc.
The trash was blamed on Americans from upstate New York who came to Toronto, purchased items, put them on and discarded the old items along with the
boxes along the route. The next morning TV news had more of the same as well as an article in the local news paper about the trash discarded by the
Americans who had taken advantage of the bargains on Boxing day.
So it goes both ways... and now the Canadian dollar is worth more than the American dollar. One would question that if some time in the future the
Canadians will be traveling south to Buffalo and trashing American roads on the return trip?
sdm
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dean miller
CANADIAN SHOPPING --BOXING DAY
I recall some years ago -possibly 15 or more when the US dollar was very strong and the Canadian dollar weak some where around 60 cents Canadian to
American dollar.
It was winter --I was visiting friends in Toronto, Canada I had arrived in SoCal warm clothes, hardly adequate for the Canadian winter but I made do
until Boxing day - the day after Christmas when all stores have supper sales every thing related to winter is on sale at a greatly reduced price.
I purchased a tan "Canadian Duffel Coat" and immediately placed it on my cold California body-- and did it feel great!
I was standing out side a woman's clothing store waiting for my wife who was inside also taking advantage of the Boxing sale, when a Canadian
gentleman joined me as is often the case when the lady folks are shopping.
Assuming I was a 100% Canadian who was wearing the national coat turned to me and stated "Those darn Americans look at the trash all around the
mall." I noticed boxes, bags and all sorts of shopping debris and even people discarding their old clothes and putting on new recently purchased
Canadian items. All I could safely respond under the circumstances was "Eh?" and lucky for me my wife arrived at that very moment and with out
uttering anthing we departed poste haste.
That evening on Canadian news there was a snippet displaying the route to the border littered with discard boxes, bags, old clothes, etc.
The trash was blamed on Americans from upstate New York who came to Toronto, purchased items, put them on and discarded the old items along with the
boxes along the route. The next morning TV news had more of the same as well as an article in the local news paper about the trash discarded by the
Americans who had taken advantage of the bargains on Boxing day.
So it goes both ways... and now the Canadian dollar is worth more than the American dollar. One would question that if some time in the future the
Canadians will be traveling south to Buffalo and trashing American roads on the return trip?
sdm |
Sounds like what our Home Depot in Imperial Beach looks like all the time---same with the closest Wal-Marts and Costcos----people from south of the
border---guess maybe trash can one of those situational situations.
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