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bajaguy
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Highway Safety
Ensenada.com has an interesting video clip on highway safety from TJ to Ensenada. Click on the SCORE BAJA 500 link.
http://www.ensenada.com/
[Edited on 6-4-2008 by bajaguy]
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DENNIS
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Very optomistic, for sure.
Thanks Terry.
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Capt. George
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Let's hope it continues along these lines....good video. gracias george
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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BajaSerg
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Good info thanks
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaSerg
Good info thanks |
A new day is coming (hopefully) ....
What a change from the old police motto "Screw the Gringo"
Do you think that they are actually getting the message that you can't kill the goose and expect to still get the golden eggs ?
Or is this just a fleeting break from business as usual ...
It is encouraging though .
CaboRon
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Woooosh
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I don't think they have any other option than to put on a happy face and hope for the best. Come on, Torres- the Rosarito Mayor owns the Rosarito
Beach hotel and the new condotel project going up on the same property. The priorty in Mexico (as everywhere) is about the money. They'll suppress
or deny any bad news as ususal.
I can't see any reason why the secuirty situation would have improved, although the bad news and anecdotal stories about violence aimed at tourists
has stopped. Rosarrito beach tourism is still way down- my Mexican neighbors are complaining about the lack of business. One restaurant here- the
Lobster Shack- didn't even bother to reopen this season yet at least.
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I don't think they have any other option than to put on a happy face and hope for the best. Come on, Torres- the Rosarito Mayor owns the Rosarito
Beach hotel and the new condotel project going up on the same property. The priorty in Mexico (as everywhere) is about the money. They'll suppress
or deny any bad news as ususal.
I can't see any reason why the secuirty situation would have improved, although the bad news and anecdotal stories about violence aimed at tourists
has stopped. Rosarrito beach tourism is still way down- my Mexican neighbors are complaining about the lack of business. One restaurant here- the
Lobster Shack- didn't even bother to reopen this season yet at least. |
I couple was kidnapped out of a taxi in Rosarito a couple of days ago and they are still missing.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I can't see any reason why the secuirty situation would have improved, although the bad news and anecdotal stories about violence aimed at tourists
has stopped. Rosarrito beach tourism is still way down- my Mexican neighbors are complaining about the lack of business. One restaurant here- the
Lobster Shack- didn't even bother to reopen this season yet at least. |
Lack of Business : Well then our boycott has been succesful. No other message has gotten thru.
Tell your Mexican neighbors that they will have to do something they aren't used to. VOTE for honest administration ... PARTISAPATE in
government ... Maybe they might even need another revolution ....
The statis quo ain't going to cut it anymore.
And cut the racist crap and start looking at gringos as something other than an opportunity for ripoff. Most of us did not fight in the
Mexican/US wars.
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MexicoTed
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Hi Fulano:
Tell us more about the couple who was kidnapped....
Ted
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Well then our boycott has been succesful. No other message has gotten thru.
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What boycott? And when you say "our" who is the we?
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Well then our boycott has been succesful. No other message has gotten thru.
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What boycott? And when you say "our" who is the we? |
NOT YOU
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fulano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MexicoTed
Hi Fulano:
Tell us more about the couple who was kidnapped....
Ted |
Here's the article.
"LOCALIZAN TAXI EN QUE VIAJABA PAREJA SECUESTRADA EN ROSARITO
Autor: CONRADO OSUNA MURILLO
PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- El secretario de Seguridad Pública Municipal, Jorge Eduardo Montero Alvarez, informó que ya fue localizado el taxi económico
color amarillo en el que viajaban dos personas, un hombre y una mujer, que fueron levantados ayer antes de las doce de la noche en una de las calles
de la Colonia Ejido Mazatlán.
Dijo que aún no se ha recibido ninguna denuncia de los familiares de las dos personas que presuntamente fueron privadas de su libertad.
Precisó que el taxi se encontró en el Cañón Rosarito, mientras que la camioneta Bronco, donde viajaban los presuntos secuestradores, no se ha
localizado aún ."
It says a man and a woman were kidnapped around midnight from the streets of Colonia Ejido Mazatlán, the taxicab was found in Rosarito canyon, the
Bronco driven by the kidnappers has not been located. So far, the police have not been contacted by any family members of the kidnapped couple.
http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=306887&esSecc=t...
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I can't see any reason why the secuirty situation would have improved, Rosarrito beach tourism is still way down. |
Driving into Tijuana yesterday afternoon, the traffic was way down. No jams into Tijuana. The insurance place that I go reported business is way
down as well. The streets in Tijuana are much less crowded, and people are happy to see me and my American friend when we do business in their
restaurants or auto parts places.
I have noticed plenty of new security on all of the streets I have vsited here in Tijuana, and it reminds me of my travels in Central and South
America where the governments there have to fight to preserve their democracies from the FARC, Shining Path rebels, etc.
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fulano
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Unless you read the Mexican papers, it's hard to understand just how profound the problem is in TJ. The English papers only pick up a small
percentage of what's going on. Here's an article just from today that just blows me away:
http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?id_nota=365669
It's too long to translate but here are some highlights:
1) Business in private hospitals and clinics is off 90%.
2) Some doctors say they are only getting one or two consultations per week.
3) Clinics are only getting one surgery per week.
4) Just last Tuesday, some doctors were in an operating room attending a birth when assailants entered and robbed everybody. the doctors didn't know
whether to attend to the birth or give money to the assailants.
5) At public hospitals, the robbers know when it is payday and rob the doctors as they leave the hospital.
6) For patients that come to the hospitals, they get their cars stolen, their personal effects stolen, and then the police come in and extort them.
7) The Mexican Army in TJ is receiving no less than 7 reports of assaults or kidnappings per day.
[Edited on 6-6-2008 by fulano]
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Ken Cooke
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Last night at an ATM machine in Downtown TJ I had 2 guys try to rob me for my $$. One guy tried to push open the door to the ATM, but I dead bolted
the door so he couldn't come inside. His partner told me in English that the machine I was using wouldn't dispense dollars. I flashed $60 up to his
face and smiled. This caught him off guard because these guys thought I would be scared. Instead, with me smiling and responding in Spanish, they
got scared. Because I had been drinking, I was ready for a good fight, but before I could get my ATM card out of the machine, they disappeared.
Last June, the same story. This time, it was three guys hanging out at the ATM, trying to skim for my code, offering to help me with my card, and no,
I wasn't robbed nor did I report the crime. I was trying to figure out which one to take on first, and all three ran away.
Moral of the story is to not go to ATM machines after dark, alone. I'm a big guy, but one of these days, the guys will be carrying guns like most/all
of the thieves in Colombia do. Then, I'd be in trouble.
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Iflyfish
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I appreciate the reality check here.
Iflyfish
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DENNIS
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Oh great. Now we have to convoy to the ATMs.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Oh great. Now we have to convoy to the ATMs. |
I know it was a scetchy idea to be downtown at 12:45 a.m. pulling cash out of the ATM, but I don't scare easily, I guess.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Well then our boycott has been succesful. No other message has gotten thru.
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What boycott? And when you say "our" who is the we? |
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Nice response, Ron, very informative.
CaboRon, get a clue. There is NO "boycott" that has anything to do with this board. And, if you think tourism is down, you should have been at the
border on Memorial day coming home, as I was. The longest wait I have EVER experienced in 15 years.
There probably are fewer people going down in the normal course of things, but it has nothing to do with an organized boycott.
I would speculate that there are various causes, less disposable income being at the top of the list, increased fear somewhere in the top, but
"boycott" is nowhere to be found -- that would require communication and organization, and where would that come from. This board? 
By the way, you've been down fulltime for how long now? How much has your Spanish vocabulary increased in that time?
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Ken Cooke
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I agree with Roberto. Everyone I talked to - from shop owners to residents all concurred that the economy and FEAR FOR PERSONAL SAFETY is what had
everyone staying away. Business at the Insurance place I go was way off because the normal clients were all scared for their safety.
Before heading down to TJ, I had to fill my tank 3 days earlier for nearly $80 bucks!!
The Jeep was empty, and I filled it in TJ for $48 bucks!! That's 17 gallons folks.
Stuff like that is keeping people home, away from restaurants, out of Baja insurance offices, taking "Stay-cations" instead of Baja vacations.
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