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Bajajorge
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Pemex shortage?
Just read on one of the San Felipe forums that there is a shortage of fuel in San Felipe, only a couple of stations have fuel. Long waiting lines,
etc. Supposedly tank truck drivers on strike. Can anybody shed some light on this, no rumors or inuendo please.
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Taco de Baja
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I heard a news report this AM that some of the shortages in Mexico are due to the Gringos making a run for the border to get cheap fuel. This is
significantly affecting fuel supply throughout the northern areas of Mexico in particular.
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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CaboRon
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Petrol stations are frequently out of one grade of gas or another. That's why I try to fill up at a quarter tank do that I can wait out the two or
three days for gas.
The gas here in Baja Sur comes on barges from the mainland and docks in La Paz. So, there are interruptions at times.
Don't know what the deal is in San Felepe, although I find it hard to believe that cross border fill ups are a factor. That would require
enormous numbers of vehicles coming over for their gas.
Is it possible that's what is happening ?
CaboRon
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Taco de Baja
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TIJUANA – Demand from U.S. motorists for Mexican gasoline is straining supplies in Baja California.
Over the weekend, some stations began to limit the sale of diesel to $100 per customer. Other stations ran out of diesel as well as premium gas.
The Pemex plant at Playas de Rosarito supplies stations across Baja California. The plant was having problems supplying some gas stations,
particularly those closest to the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa border crossings, station workers said.
The station at Second and Negrete streets in downtown Tijuana almost ran out of both regular unleaded and premium gasoline on Saturday, said Juan
Carlos Carreto, the shift manager. The station ran out of gasoline at midday Sunday but received another shipment two hours later.
“This weekend and last we've had a big increase in sales. Many Americans came here, and besides filling up their tank, they brought gallon containers
to take gas with them, Carreto said.
Other stations, like the one located on Bellas Artes Boulevard, near the Otay Mesa border crossing, started selling diesel to only regular customers.
The station manager, Hector Lopez, said that Pemex had warned them that there would be a shortage of diesel this week.
Officials at Pemex could not be reached over the weekend. Some Pemex workers, however, said the oil company was having trouble keeping up with the
increased demand. They said that a third distribution shift had been added to supply gas stations.
The workers said that in some instances stations were only receiving half the amount they had requested because reserves were running low.
The Association of Gasoline Station Owners of Tijuana, which represents 157 stations, said sales had increased 25 percent in the first five months of
this year compared to the same period in 2007, driven by the demand from California motorists.
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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Loboron
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What is being over looked with regards to diesel shortages in northern baja is the large vessels lined up and making reservations for fuel at the
Hotel Coral & Marina, the only fuel dock currently in Ensenada.
All the long range boats now stop in Ensenda before going to San Diego to offload. The larger yachts are now coming down just to fuel and then return.
The price per gallon has been averaging $2.27 and the marina can't keep fuel in the ground. It's sold faster than it can be delivered and as a result
they started rationing the amount they would sell to each vessel as of last week. Most of the vessels want to purchase 2-3 thousand gallons or more at
a time.
Last weekend they were out of fuel most of Friday and all day Saturday waiting for a delivery.
With the tuna season approaching it's only going to get worse. With the boats fueling here prior to returning to San Diego there's no way the marina
will be able to keep up, they can't now.
[Edited on 6-17-2008 by Loboron]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loboron
All the long range boats now stop in Ensenda before going to San Diego to offload. |
I always thought the long range sport charter fleet would be smarter to operate out of Ensenada. I would prefer that long range trips be shorter.
Would be faster to drive to Ensenada and board a boat there. Smart operators would use a bus to take San Diego customers to load/unload in Ensenada
-- avoids about 6 hours of wasted fuel/time to get to/from fishing grounds
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MrBillM
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Panic in San Felipe. None in Mexicali.
A pal of mine called this a.m. to ask what I knew about the San Felipe shortage.
He had just come back from his home in Gonzaga yesterday and arrived in San Felipe needing Diesel fuel. He found ALL of the stations that were open
had lines stretching blocks. Some stations were closed with signs that read "Out of Gas". Arriving at the New station north of town, he again found
lines stretching long distance. Since he didn't KNOW that he could make Mexicali, he settled into line. After 1.5 hours, the police started down the
line telling people the station was out of gas and to get out of line. When the police officer noticed that my pal had a Diesel, he said "Diesel OK,
no gas". When the cars refused to leave, the police created an opening so the Diesel vehicles could get into the station. He filled up and went on
his way.
Arriving in Mexicali, he noted that all was normal. Stations open, people filling up, no lines.
SO, the problem was unique to San Felipe. He did notice that the vehicles that were fueling in San Felipe were also filling up their spare gas cans
and barrels.
Perhaps, a rumor got started and a panic started ??? He heard the same thing about the "Strike", but dismissed it when he found Mexicali normal.
The Answer From San Felipe.com.mx Today:
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Impending shortages of gasoline and diesel. The whole of northern Baja is starting to experience a shortage of gasoline and diesel fuel as American
motorists from California and Arizona drive into the border cities to fill up their gas tanks. Prices of gasoline in San Diego are now approaching
$5/gallon and diesel is already well over this figure so it is making economic sense for people to come and shop in Mexico and fill their tanks. The
Pemex distribution center just outside Rosarito is reported to be almost dry and deliveries to many Tijuana and Mexicali gasoline stations have been
suspended. The impact is just starting to be noticed here in San Felipe as local citizens fill their tanks to avoid being caught without any gasoline
for the coming 7-14 days. Pemex says that there is not a shortage of gasoline in Mexico, just that the scheduled deliveries to their Baja distribution
facilities are not keeping up with the rapidly rising demand. We expect that as more tankers are sent to Rosarito, the scarcity will ease but this
could take a couple of weeks. In the meantime, tourists coming in for the weekend should get their tanks filled when they arrive in town to avoid any
difficulties of the stations running out over the weekend.
[Edited on 6-17-2008 by MrBillM]
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Cypress
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grover,  The "Mad Max" scenario might be closer to the truth than we can
imagine.
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BajaWarrior
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So much for our grand plans then. We're heading down this Thursday for a week and were planning on crossing the border on fumes, then filling up in
Mexicali, with even a top-off in San Felipe.
Oh well, we'll bite the bullet and fill-up in the states.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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viabaja
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BajaWarrior
Chuck, post info on your return. I'm curious to see if the irrationality continues. Normally diesel has never been a problem and the pumps in SF have
been wide open!
I'm shutdown until late Sept and hopefully this madness will have gone away!
MrBillM - Bill do the same if you head down.
Chris
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MrBillM
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Packing
For the first time in many years, I'll be carrying spare gas INTO Baja. Better safe than sorry, although I'll be there long enough to ride out any
brief shortage.
Let you know this weekend.
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Paulina
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We just filled up with diesel today in Morro Bay.  $170.oo
That will get us down to Maneadero where we will fill up again for almost half that amount before heading over to San Felipe on Friday. We should be
able to make it over to SF and back to Mane. on one tank, no problema.
Crazy.
P<*)))>{
[Edited on 18-6-2008 by Paulina]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
We just filled up with diesel today in Morro Bay. $170.oo
That will get us down to Maneadero where we will fill up again for almost half that amount before heading over to San Felipe on Friday. We should be
able to make it over to SF and back to Mane. on one tank, no problema.
Crazy.
P<*)))>{
[Edited on 18-6-2008 by Paulina] |
Crazy---YES ---we can't wait to get back to Baja. Our truck is PARKED and not moving until we go and we have plenty of gas to get well below the
border.
Our little commuter car, our Toyota Echo is the one we used to call our $20.00 gas car. Yesterday, at Costco, it cost $50.00 to fill it. 
Off topic, but we were shopping at REI today for bike goodies and as we were shopping, they were increasing the prices of everything---shipping costs.
Was not that many years ago that our Calexico gas stations were always crowded with people from south of the border---sure they are empty now.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by grover
"...My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I
remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max".
To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of
pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away.
For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all.
Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and
talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche.
Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white line
nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a
tank of juice..." |
Yeah, and the Hwy 1 is the Transcontinental or maybe Lord Humungus is around Cataviña 
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fulano
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Alertan ante desabasto de gasolina
Well, all the Baja newspapers are really jumping on this story. It's top story everywhere now. The latest chisme is that Baja will be out of all
grades of fuel by Friday.
http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=308628&esSecc=t...
The story says that gas sales volume in the TJ, Tecate, Playas area are up 40%.
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MICK
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Came up from Cabo and went thru Gozaga to SF yesterday. We found that they only had Premiun fuel and the lines were long. We got gas again in Mexicali
with no lines and I saw no closed stations so I think it must be SF only as of now. I did see a lot of people filling cans in SF so that may be some
of the cause
Mick
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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Frank
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There is a lot of re-selling of Diesel going on......
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by viabaja
BajaWarrior
Chuck, post info on your return. I'm curious to see if the irrationality continues. Normally diesel has never been a problem and the pumps in SF have
been wide open!
I'm shutdown until late Sept and hopefully this madness will have gone away!
MrBillM - Bill do the same if you head down.
Chris |
Will do, trip report on Wednesday the 25th
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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ElFaro
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In case anyone is interested...
If you are on BLVD 2000 heading east and you take the off-ramp onto the TJ-Tecate free road that heads east (while BLVD 2000 turns north following the
power lines) there are about 3-4 PEMEX stations about 1-2 miles east of the off-ramp on the free road all selling gas / diesel. While going through
there I have never seen any Gringos in that area or at the gas stations...all Mexicans (cars / trucks). Most of the time I go through there the gas
stations are nearly empty.
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ElFaro
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Nearly empty of cars and trucks...not gas / diesel.
Needed to clarify that last statement. Sorry.
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