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[*] posted on 5-3-2004 at 09:56 AM
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For those interested in a new or different side to Baja, you may be interested in the project I have going on in south Baja.
I am building a camp area/houses entirely out of bamboo and the first are in the hills above San Bartolo. We will be offering wagon rides and a number of different Baja experiences including trips to the coastal areas but mostly focusing on the mountains and historic places in south Baja, healthy and natural foods and plants from the local areas, bird watching and swimmin holes.
It is a remote area with lot's of animals and is quite different from any of the other amenities Baja has to offer.
When traveling through San Bartolo, stop at the Oasis restaurant and ask about the Bamboo guy (Jaime) and we can get you to the ranch of Baja Bamboo.

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[*] posted on 5-3-2004 at 05:35 PM


You've been talkin' about this for months. So, where are the pictures?:lol:



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[*] posted on 5-4-2004 at 08:06 AM


That sounds like a great experience !!
I'll stop by next time I make it all the way down the peninsula.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2004 at 02:47 PM


JR, Your mention of wagon rides and trips to the coast sounds like a lot of fun, I wish you well in your endeavours.

Are you planning on going over hill and dale and thru the arroyo to get from San Bartope and come out around Rancho Pescadero or will you be taking an established road, for instance the gravel road from San Antonio that runs to Los Planes ? Or the next to not maintained route that runs from just North of San Bartolo and comes out around Boca de Alamo?

There is yet another route that I heard about from a dear friend of mine who is just a few years older than me. She has told me stories of when she was a young bride, she and her husband would load up the horses and mules with their 3 little kids, gallons of water, coffee, pots and pans, tortillas, machaca and what ever else they had to eat and they would take off at dawn from "Pames Ranch", (just South of San Bartolo) and by night fall, they would reach their other ranch on the coast at Rancho Pescadero, (half way between Los Barriles & Punta Pescadero). At the time, (early 60's) this was the most efficent way to get from San Bartope to Pescadero. I heard her husband took the same "path" in his Rover in the late '90's' when he was in his wild and drunken modes and wanted to avoid all humanity and the highways (thank god). I have not heard of anyone taking this route since and assumed that it is overgrown and forgotten. I bet that would be an awesome trip though.

I am always in amassment that someone of my generation was living the "Old West way" in the same moment I was skateboarding the sidewalks of the suburbs of Southern California. My, my, my, what a wonderful world of diversity this little plant we all call home truly is.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2004 at 12:42 PM


Jr,

We call those bamboos "carrizos" here in Baja, but your probably knew that already.




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[*] posted on 6-6-2004 at 01:44 PM
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Hi JR , Are you the one building the bamboo house across from Las Gaviotas? k:yes:
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[*] posted on 6-6-2004 at 02:00 PM
Bambu house?


Nope, but I'm back in Rosarito so I'll be checkin it out .
How are you guys anyway. Sorry to have missed the booksigning as again it sounded like a blast. Congratulations!
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[*] posted on 11-12-2004 at 09:53 PM


Jr. is there a web site where I can learn moor about Baja Bamboo



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[*] posted on 11-12-2004 at 10:49 PM
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I will be heading down soon and I will stop by to discuss it.:light:
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 09:10 AM


Here you go Bruce. this is a start
I just went to ask.com and asked for carrizo grass. there was more but this link seemed to have good info

http://www.issg.org/database/species/ecology.asp?si=16&fr=1&...





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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 09:20 AM


The link for carrizo isn't for a bamboo.....try this one for bamboo and its useful applications:

http://www.tifac.org.in/nmba/fact_const.htm

"Bamboo has been used by people since ages in many ways in construction of doors & windows, interiors, furniture, handicrafts, transport, fish culture, food, sericulture etc. Bamboo in a modern form can substitute plastics, steel and cement in new applications for housing, furniture construction and agricultural tools & implements with the application of sophisticated design knowledge and with the use of improved composite technologies that are today available in this sector"

[Edited on 11-17-2004 by Mexitron]
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 12:22 PM


Now I am confused. Is your house out of the local what you call bamboo but which is actually a grass or did you import bamboo?
Either way I, also, will be stopping by on my next trip north to check it out.
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 12:54 PM
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is not about carrizo, which grows everywhere in Baja. I do use carrizo combined with Bamboo for some projects as they go very well together as their appearance is similar.
What I am dealing with and growing is Bamboo. It grows up to a 6 inch diameter and there is a lot of information available on the different species.
There are many species native to Mexico with a good portion of them on the endangered list.
I am working on getting some of these species from the mainland and particularly, Guadua Bamboo because of it's many versatile properties.
I have many areas in south Baja growing bamboo for the projects and will be heading down soon to check on progress.
Last time I was down there, some of the plants had grown 4' in two weeks so I am hoping for the best.
There are many things involved with growing and using bamboo. Drying, preserving against mites, special tools as well as the fact that it seems to be a delicacy to them dang vacas! (Bamboo shoots!).
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 01:41 PM
So far


There isn't much to see. I have been concentrating on acquiring different types of bamboo and getting the people set up to grow it.
I have a frame for the 1st structure up as well as the entrance area to the park but am basically focusing on the growth aspect rather than the construction aspect for now.
This will change when I get back down there in a couple weeks. Back to work !:bounce:

As far as bamboo being native to Baja, because of the few groves there are, I doubt it is a native species. But, it is in Mexico so you never know. My guess is that it was brought over with the first missionaries.
I bet AA may be able to find time to chase down that info. It would be very interesting to find out.
I have many pictures of my trips and projects at http://groups.msn.com/TheBajasBestGuidesPhotoAlbum

Photo is combination of bamboo and carrizo kitchen
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 02:17 PM


Way cool!
I definitely will stop by to see your bamboo.
Good luck with your projects




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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 02:31 PM



Arundo donax(Giant Reed, Carriso), which is not a true bamboo probably came with the missionaries, being native to Europe. It is now an invasive species in Southern Calif. and Baja waterways and arroyos.

On bamboos native to Mex:

http://www.americanbamboo.org/GeneralInfoPages/BambooOnTheIn...

Gib Cooper wrote: ?Gilberto Cortes asked me to announce the electronic publishing of his article ? Native Bamboos of Mexico.? The article discusses the genera and species found in Mexico. It has been only in the last few years that there has been greater understanding of bamboo in Mexico. Some species are very rare and endangered. The more than 40 bamboo species range from sea level to 2,500 meters in elevation. Completing the article is a list of species. The article is in Spanish.?

G?neros y especies de bamb?es nativos de M?xico
Aulonemia
A. clarkiae Davidse & R.Pohl

A. fulgor Soderstrom*

A. laxa (Maekawa) McClure*
Merostachys

M. sp.



Arthrostylidium

A. excelsum Griseb.


Olmeca

O. recta Soderstrom*

O. reflexa Soderstrom*



Guadua

G. aculeata

G. amplexifolia J.S. Presl

G. longifolia (Fourn.) R. Pohl

G. paniculata Munro

G. velutina Londo?o & L. Clark*


Otatea

O. acuminata (Munro) C.Calder?n & Soderstrom

O. acuminata ssp. acuminata

O. acuminata ssp. aztecorum R.Guzm?n, Anaya & Santana

O. fimbriata Soderstrom



Chusquea

C. aperta L.Clark*

C. bilimekii Fournier*

C. circinata Soderstrom & C.Calder?n*

C. coronalis Soderstrom & C.Calder?n

C. foliosa L. Clark

C. galeottiana Ruprecht ex Munro*

C. glauca L.Clark*

C. lanceolata A. Hitchc-ck

C. liebmannii Fournier

C. longifolia Swallen

C. muelleri Munro*

C. nelsonii Scribner & J.G.Smith

C. repens L.Clark & Londo?o*

C. repens ssp. repens

C. repens ssp. oaxacacensis L.Clark & Londo?o

C. perotensis L.Clark, Cort?s & Ch?zaro*

C. pittieri Hackel

C. simpliciflora Munro

C. sulcata Swallen
Rhipidocladum

R. bartlettii (McClure) McClure

R. martinezii Davidse & R.Pohl*

R. pittieri (Hackel) McClure

R. racemiflorum (Steudel) McClure



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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 02:47 PM
Yep


And thanks Mexitron!
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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 05:38 PM


Jr. This is good info, cant Waite to talk to you about Bamboo .



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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 05:39 PM


JR, did you ever research for that article in Architectural Digest? I looked for my copy but it must have missed the move to Mexico. Knowing what kind of homes the magazine features you can imagine how incredible this house is. Jaw dropping gorgeous and made entirely of bamboo!



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[*] posted on 11-17-2004 at 07:44 PM


Bamboo rocks!

I would sleep well in a bamboo house. :biggrin:

http://www.wayofdesign.com/ebook/adigest.htm

http://www.filipinoheritage.com/crafts/bamboo/house2.htm




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