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makana.gabriel
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streets seem empty in TJ
On new years day, we drove thru TJ with no traffic and chalked it up to the holiday. But yesterday when we had to do some business in Rosarity &
Tijuana, I could not believe that there were so few cars on the streets. You could have fired a cannon down Ave. Los Heroes. We come down a few
times every month but this is the first time I've really taken notice on how empty everything is.
We were going to have a late lunch at Senior Frogs next to Pueblo Amigo but it is now out of business.
By the way, at least yesterday the Sentri entrance in front of the hotel was closed. Don't know how long that has been or if it will continue.
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tjBill
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Things are closed on New Years day.
This morning the traffic was heavy as usual.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by makana.gabriel
On new years day, we drove thru TJ with no traffic and chalked it up to the holiday. But yesterday when we had to do some business in Rosarity &
Tijuana, I could not believe that there were so few cars on the streets. You could have fired a cannon down Ave. Los Heroes. We come down a few
times every month but this is the first time I've really taken notice on how empty everything is.
We were going to have a late lunch at Senior Frogs next to Pueblo Amigo but it is now out of business.
By the way, at least yesterday the Sentri entrance in front of the hotel was closed. Don't know how long that has been or if it will continue.
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You won't get an honest answer on this board- people who live there are SOS and very defensive. TJ is empty now because TJ is empty now.
There is no crime in TJ , the economy is booming, tourism is on the increase and it's safer than a day in Disneyland. You didn't see those full
open-air tour busses running around the streets? Maybe you just need new glasses.
[Edited on 1-16-2009 by Woooosh]
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BajaGringo
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I was in Tijuana the last few days and it seemed to me that the normal local business traffic seemed pretty close to what it always is. What is down
is the tourist traffic that normally fills the Revolution Ave area.
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I have been going to TJ since I was a baby...very frequently. From my vantage point, the city is as busy as ever, BUT there is a HUGE
difference.....There is almost NO gringos to be seen anywhere. No shortage of locals....but the gringos and their bucks are almost not existant.
When searching for the end of your rainbow you only have until dusk....
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Bajahowodd
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And that has to hurt the locals alot.
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Tijuana would not be there (as we know it) if it weren't for the location next to San Diego... Rosarito as well because of the attraction of the
Rosarito Beach Hotel, attracting Americans.
Can 2 cities born from tourism survive without it? Yes, but what a difference it will make when the anchor industries are gone. Why did Mexico wait
until now to put the hammer down on the violence... if they even have with their threat of 'military death squads'?
I wish a speedy recovery for the area...
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BajaGringo
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It does if your business is mainly tourist related. Revolution is not a very happy place right now...
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It creates a vicious cycle. Folks that relied on tourist business to make a living are more likely to consider shadier occupations. At least history
shows that crime rises during bad economic times. That goes for the states, as well.
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Definitely a very bad cycle we're in right now. But I am still going out for tacos, even if they aren't low-fat!
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Tijuana would not be there (as we know it) if it weren't for the location next to San Diego... Rosarito as well because of the attraction of the
Rosarito Beach Hotel, attracting Americans.
Can 2 cities born from tourism survive without it? Yes, but what a difference it will make when the anchor industries are gone. Why did Mexico wait
until now to put the hammer down on the violence... if they even have with their threat of 'military death squads'?
I wish a speedy recovery for the area...
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All must be well now... the new Rosarito Burger King with a drive thru is open for business!
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movinguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I was in Tijuana the last few days and it seemed to me that the normal local business traffic seemed pretty close to what it always is. What is down
is the tourist traffic that normally fills the Revolution Ave area. |
The SENTRI wait in the morning has been worse than ever, according to those who cross daily. 
But definitely no tourists . . . more tacos for me! 
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How long ya figure the Burger King stays open? The initial investment and the franchise fees require a pretty large cash flow. With no tourism, their
only hope is if BajaGringo switches from tacos to Whoppers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by movinguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I was in Tijuana the last few days and it seemed to me that the normal local business traffic seemed pretty close to what it always is. What is down
is the tourist traffic that normally fills the Revolution Ave area. |
The SENTRI wait in the morning has been worse than ever, according to those who cross daily.
But definitely no tourists . . . more tacos for me!
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once again- for anyone who feels this is TJ bashing... tourism is down everywhere in the world. No one is leaving home with or with or without their
AMX cards.
Las Vegas, Disneyland, Indian casinos- no one is spending money anywhere. They can't give cruise ship rooms away. Vegas thought is was bulletproof
from recession or depression until the last few months. Lotto sales are way up though (??).
TJ/Rosarito Beach/Baja happen to be our closest reference points- but the lack of tourists problem is eveywhere.
[Edited on 1-16-2009 by Woooosh]
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Cyanide41
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I was just reading how military personel now need written permission to go to Mexico. So I highly doubt any Commanding officers going to approve a
trip to Revolution. Crime or no crime, many people are afriad to go to TJ.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
How long ya figure the Burger King stays open? The initial investment and the franchise fees require a pretty large cash flow. With no tourism, their
only hope is if BajaGringo switches from tacos to Whoppers. |
I think the Burger King has about the same chance as the Applebees next to it. WalMart seems to be doing OK though and I don't think Home Depot cares
if their store is empty all the time (he racing car carriages for the kids are great though). It (WalMart) did kill the business at the huge
Commercial grocery store that opened next to the cuota last year though. I think the first to go wil be the new Office Depot. I don't think a
business is still open that needs what they sell-- all the realtors must be selling tupperware these days.
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Bajahowodd
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Office Depot is in big trouble in the U.S. Hope their Mexican partners have deep pockets. So Wal-Mart is hurting Commercial Mexicano? Down in Cabo,
Soriana and CCC have encountered the same. Not sure who paid for it, but the Wal-Mart/ Sam's Club combo got their own dedicated overpass and off ramps
from the four lane.
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| Quote: | TJ/Rosarito Beach/Baja happen to be our closest reference points- but the lack of tourists problem is eveywhere.
[Edited on 1-16-2009 by Woooosh] |
Yeah, if 14 pesos to the dollar doesn't bring 'em, not sure what will 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Office Depot is in big trouble in the U.S. Hope their Mexican partners have deep pockets. So Wal-Mart is hurting Commercial Mexicano? Down in Cabo,
Soriana and CCC have encountered the same. Not sure who paid for it, but the Wal-Mart/ Sam's Club combo got their own dedicated overpass and off ramps
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If there wasn't a sign on the roof- you couldn't tell the WalMart from the Commercial Mexicana. Both mega-stores are laid out a little differently-
but pretty much the same. Kind of like putting a PeMex a hundred yards away from a PeMex.
The ONLY Mexican with deep pockets has them sewn shut. I always thought it was telling that Carlos Slim said "the only difference between me and BIll
Gates is that I don't give away my money." As much as I hate Microsoft (especailly with Vista now gone and to soon be replaced by Windows 7), Bill
Gates giving most all his money to worldwide charitable foundations takes the sting out. An amazing role model of what one man can do to help the
world. Mr Slim... not so much.
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I think you may be underestimating Sr. Slim. He's behind a number of charitable foundations both in Mexico and Latin America. The Telmex foundation
alone has granted tens of thousands of scholarships. I think it's just hard to be so rich and therefore so envied. No one expects either Slim or Bill
Gates to make vows of poverty.
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