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[*] posted on 2-7-2009 at 02:38 PM
PETROGLYPHS & PICTOGRAPHS you can drive to, or close (in Baja Norte)!


Baja California was as popular with American Indians several hundred years ago as it is now with us!

Thanks to abundant food supplies for some, they had some 'free time' to make artistic additions to the boulders of Baja!

There must be dozens we know of... and a few are so close to a vehicle approach, you don't have to leave your car... well almost!

Here is a sample of some sites...

MONTEVIDEO (off the San Borja road):














ARROYO SAN FERNANDO (a mile west of the mission):














LAS PINTAS:














CATAVIÑA (2 miles north, on top of boulder hill):














LAS TINAJITAS (San Borja region):











PETROGLYPH PARK (site we found 20 miles east of El Socorro):














LA VIBORA CANYON (8 miles from Guadalupe Canyon):













These photos are all found in my web site VivaBaja.com, most with directions. Las Tinajitas is best found using the guide service of Jose Gerardo and family of San Borja.

Viva Baja everyone!



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[*] posted on 2-7-2009 at 04:12 PM


Good fotos, very interesting....Thank you



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[*] posted on 2-8-2009 at 09:15 AM


I think I've seen some of this, but just from the car, and wondered if it was ancient, or grafiti.



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[*] posted on 2-8-2009 at 10:04 AM


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I think I've seen some of this, but just from the car, and wondered if it was ancient, or grafiti.


BOTH (ancient grafitti)!

What is funny (or sad) is that today's grafitti is tomorrow's rock art!




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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 02:59 PM


Here's El Burro. The beach just south of Santaspac, right? They are right next to the hwy. a very short walk at the south side of the cove.

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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 03:07 PM


I remember questioning why they would not have been affected by the building of the hwy, they're that close. Maybe a concerned road builder repositioned them there.

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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 03:09 PM


one more....

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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 03:10 PM


.....and another one

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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 04:58 PM


Did your host in Mulege give any indication whether, or not they thought these were in fact legitimate/old petraglyphs? The boulder field in which they were located really looked to me like they were rocks tumbled there to provide support for the roadbed. Looking close they were indeed convincing. I guess it's possible they could have survived the various road building campaigns over years.

Here's something a bit more convincing I found on a recent trip put on by Nomads this last Presidents Day weekend to El Cajon Canyon in the Sierra San Pedro de Martir. It's only a short walk up the canyon on the South side.

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[*] posted on 3-6-2009 at 05:02 PM


a little closer. Whether it's smoke damage, or desert varnish seen as a broad band across the rock, it does appear to be on top of the glyphs, making them older I would assume.

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[*] posted on 3-7-2009 at 02:39 PM


yikes. exact directions? can't there just be general directions and let people discover them on their own? I guess I am of the Mary Austin kind who said in her book Land of Little Rain (which is available on line): "And I am in no mind to direct you to delectable places toward which you will hold yourself less tenderly than I". and maybe her and I are a bit grumpy, but are not some of these sites pretty delicate and sensitive?
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yikes. exact directions? can't there just be general directions and let people discover them on their own? I guess I am of the Mary Austin kind who said in her book Land of Little Rain (which is available on line): "And I am in no mind to direct you to delectable places toward which you will hold yourself less tenderly than I". and maybe her and I are a bit grumpy, but are not some of these sites pretty delicate and sensitive?


:lol: Here we go again :spingrin:

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yikes. exact directions? can't there just be general directions and let people discover them on their own? I guess I am of the Mary Austin kind who said in her book Land of Little Rain (which is available on line): "And I am in no mind to direct you to delectable places toward which you will hold yourself less tenderly than I". and maybe her and I are a bit grumpy, but are not some of these sites pretty delicate and sensitive?
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2012 Additions, just off the road near El Arco.



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That Mesa de Carmen site is one of my favoites. The paintings there are as good as if not better than the ones up in Sierra San Francisco in my opinion. Too bad it is such a small area. Looking on google earth in that area there are uploaded photos of other sites that would be fun to find.
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I am sure if one were to explore every rock face possible, it would amaze us all how many have been marked up by man over the years. These giant sites sure seem to indicate that food was plentiful for them to have so much leisure time and they were painted before the Cochimí, that lived there when the Spanish arrived on scene...?



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I am sure if one were to explore every rock face possible, it would amaze us all how many have been marked up by man over the years. These giant sites sure seem to indicate that food was plentiful for them to have so much leisure time and they were painted before the Cochimí, that lived there when the Spanish arrived on scene...?




Great pictures, But how can you say that they were American Indians.:?::?::?::?::?:
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* Because they weren't Indians from India! ;)



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[*] posted on 1-1-2013 at 09:27 AM


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* Because they weren't Indians from India! ;)



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Please answer the Question, how can you say they were AMERICAN Indians.:?::?::?::?::?::?::?:
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Quote:
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* Because they weren't Indians from India! ;)



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Please answer the Question, how can you say they were AMERICAN Indians.:?::?::?::?::?::?::?:





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