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EnseNADAslim
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Baja Kayakers,,,,Where are you??
Funny thing, I would think that this section of the forums would be more active that it is. We also found it a bit odd that while we were paddling
Bahia Concepcion we did not see others out there on water doing multi-day trips. What a great place to paddle!
So Baja Sea kayakers,,,,Where are you?
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nancyinpdx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnseNADAslim
Funny thing, I would think that this section of the forums would be more active that it is. We also found it a bit odd that while we were paddling
Bahia Concepcion we did not see others out there on water doing multi-day trips. What a great place to paddle!
So Baja Sea kayakers,,,,Where are you? |
I'd like to try kayaking some day, but scared they'd tip over in the ocean!!! I looooove canoeing tho!
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Hola EseNADAslim
There are hundreds, if not thousands of Baja kayakers out there. You must have been out on one of those very rare days. Conception Bay in particular
is full of kayaks, and the Baja shoreline from Mulege to Agua Verde is a regular paddle.
Enter Conception Bay area kayaks, stage right:
The first photo shows a friend kayaking with his cat, Feyo. This famous cat has made the front cover of Cat World a few times. A frequent visitor to
my patio parties, he is now famous in Cat Heaven. The paddler here makes 3-4 trips a year kayaking from Coyote Bay to Agua Verde and the Tip.
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Felipa on her morning workout in the Bay. Usually an 12-mile route from the house to Ille Barga (Dead Dog Cove) to Santa Barbara to house.
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Bon voyage, senoritas!
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Most all residents of the Bay have kayaks at the ready. Today looks a mite rough, so will wait...
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A side benefit of kayaking the Bay is viewing marine habitat and billions of aquarium-size fishes...yes, billions. 
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The world is our oyster! Make voyages! Attempt them! There is little else..
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"You wanted breakfast BEFORE we go kayaking?? Think cereal, boyo."
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Here's a group of NOLS kayakers rafting up...just south of Pt. Conception enroute south towards Loreto.
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A fun day in Paradise.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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nancyinpdx
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Is paddling a kayak much more different or difficult than paddling a canoe? I really wanna try it but am kinda scared of choppy water; I've only
canoed on lakes. But it was one of my fave things ever(!) to do! Your pics are so beeeyootiful that i GOTTA try it sometime down there!
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Pompano
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nancyinpdxx...
CANOEING AND KAYAKING:
The difference is that a canoe paddle has one blade and a kayak has two.
Open Canoe. These are the large boats you can fit two or three people in, and that you propel with a single bladed paddle. Generally you either sit on
a bench-type seat, or kneel. We take lots of canoe trips thru Minnesota systems and Up North into Canada. You can generally pack more gear into a
canoe...and people.
Kayaking, on the other hand, involves sitting down with your legs in front of you and using a two bladed paddle. There are also type of kayaks that
are suitable for long distance trips. You will soon find which suits your style best.
There are many different types of kayak, most of which are designed for specific disciplines such as touring, river running, placid water, wild water
racing, slalom, surfing, seakayaking, and some other specialties.
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The basic type of canoe is a very forgiving boat - you certainly don't get as wet as in a kayak - but it does require a little more skill to manuever
it as a solo paddler. If you intend to paddle as a pair, or out with the family, this is certainly a very good option.
Although not as common as kayaks, there are specialist canoes for nearly all of the above mentioned uses. To the casual observer, the only noticeable
difference is the type of paddle used. Decked canoes (as they are known) are, however, a lot more difficult to paddle, but they do have the edge when
it comes to manuevarability. I used to have a canoe here in The Bay, but found the kayak best suits our needs.
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Take any of them out...you'll have a ball.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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oldlady
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Nancy...my husband and I have kayaks. We go out in the Sea of Cortez.
If I can paddle one (haven't capsized yet), anyone can. Give it a try.
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nancyinpdx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
Nancy...my husband and I have kayaks. We go out in the Sea of Cortez.
If I can paddle one (haven't capsized yet), anyone can. Give it a try. |
Thamk you Oldlady and Pompano for all the pointers and pics.
Though I'm only in my late 40s, I do have arthritis and back (due to herniated and buldging disks), hip, knee, and shoulder problems as well as
sciatica on both sides of my back going down both legs so it has to be comfy. I can't kneel very comfortably or for long periods. I wonder if I'd be
able to handle a kayak (cuz of my stupid shoulder probs). All my joints bother me. Maybe a canoe with a seat is the only thing that would work for
me? I would be willing to try a kayak but wonder if it would hurt my shoulders, neck, and back worse cuz of the way you paddle it? My left shoulder
is worse than my right one.
Gee, it's been over 20 years since I've paddled a canoe but it's not something you forget how to do.
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Pompano
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Nancy, you don't have to kneel in certain canoes. They have a seat/s, sometimes both fore and aft.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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nancyinpdx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Nancy, you don't have to kneel in certain canoes. They have a seat/s, sometimes both fore and aft. |
Yeah, I've been in that kind; they might be my only options due to my probs. But I for sure wanna try it down there.
Before this forum I was never very interested in the Baja cuz I am not that enthralled by the desert, hate scorpions, spiders, other arachnids and
scary bugs, toothy critters and snakes, but coastal baja is soooooo gorgeous!!!! I've always been crazy about the ocean and any water and beaches. I
want a town with some trees, though. I love palms, flowers, birds, sea life and lots of local children too!!!
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EnseNADAslim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by nancyinpdx
Is paddling a kayak much more different or difficult than paddling a canoe? I really wanna try it but am kinda scared of choppy water; I've only
canoed on lakes. But it was one of my fave things ever(!) to do! Your pics are so beeeyootiful that i GOTTA try it sometime down there!
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Hi Nancy,
Depending on where you live, you might be able to find a Kayak shop, or rental place and give it a try. Some Kayak Shops that sit on water fronts will
sometimes even let you test-drive them. Yes there is a difference in the way you paddle a canoe vs. a Kayak and there is difference within the
different types of Kayaks as well.
There's the Sit on top type, and they can be very stable and easy to get in and out of
Then in there are the Recreational type that you sit it, but have a very large opening, so they to can be a bit easy to get in and out of.
The closed Deck touring type can be a bit more complicated and would require some professional instructions on how to handle certain situations.
Our Kayaks have taken us to some beautiful areas all up and down the coast, from Washington, Big Sur, below Hover Dam, and of course Baja.
Nothing like paddling in the morning as the sun comes up. Heading to Playa Perla
Our Kayaks sitting on the white sands of Isla El Coyote
Have car and Kayaks on the Yakima's,,,,will travel!
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nancyinpdx
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Wow what beautiful pics. I live in Portland. I don't get out to nature much but I love it. Maybe I'll have to wait til I'm in baja to try it. Are
there any placid water sites where they rent them?
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Kayaks
Try a sit on top kayak that way if you do tip over you just fall off. Then you just climb back on a go.
It is vary hard to tip one over though. You almost have to do it on purpose. and if you do your just going for a swim until you climb back on.
I have an Ocaen Kayak Prowler its 15 1/2 ft long and can carry all my camping gear and fishing gear inside.
I fish off mine in the ocean and have paddled it many miles off shore. When I am going farther off shore then I can safely swim in from, I wear a PFD.
I always have it with me when Im on the water. In the USA its manditory you carry a PFD on any boat/ kayak while in the ocean. You dont have to wear
it but you have to have it with you. I wear mine.
Have fun
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EnseNADAslim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaDanD
I have an Ocaen Kayak Prowler its 15 1/2 ft long and can carry all my camping gear and fishing gear inside.
I fish off mine in the ocean and have paddled it many miles off shore. |
Right on BajaDan, nice catch, is that a SheepsHead? I've wanted to try to fish from my yak, but my Dagger is not as stable as the sit on tops. I'd
have to agree and say that for anyone's first time in a Kayak that they should try a sit on top, as a matter of fact,,,most rental places will not let
you rent a closed deck touring kayak unless you've been trained in rescue recovery.
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We always have our kayak with us in Baja. It's a 14 foot Hobie sit-on-top with 3 adjustable seat positions. 2 adults and a child in the middle -
perfect for us, till the daughter gets bigger.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by nancyinpdx
Wow what beautiful pics. I live in Portland. I don't get out to nature much but I love it. Maybe I'll have to wait til I'm in baja to try it. Are
there any placid water sites where they rent them? |
Nancy, I live in PDX as well. You can go to Hayden Island -Jantzen Beach and rent at: http://www.aldercreek.com or on Macadam at: http://www.portlandrivercompany.com/Rentals.html .
Both of these locations provide lessons and group trip in the backwaters of Portland. Also check craigslist for groups and equipment.
Go Ducks!
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nancyinpdx
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Thank you!!!
I saved those links!
I'll try the sit-on ones first and use a life jacket. I'm not the greatest swimmer.
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How hard is it to get back onto a sit-on-top kayak after it rolls over in deep water? 
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getting back on kayak
Its pretty easy I've never had a problem. Before you take it out in deep water go for a swim and practice climbing on the kayak. wear a PDF. If you
go rent one most places will give you instructions on how to get back on.
While im fishing I usually turn sideways and hang both feet over the same side in the water. allows me easy access to the whole kayak. But again its
vary hard to tip one over or fall off.
[Edited on 3-25-2009 by BajaDanD]
[Edited on 3-25-2009 by BajaDanD]
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BajaDanD
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Cabo trip
Drove this rig all the way to Cabo then all over the east cape a few years back
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EnseNADAslim
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BajaDan, this must have been at the beginning of your trip,,,,your car is way to clean, and your boats don't have the Dried Salt look to them yet.
Where all did you paddle besides Cobo?
ya got a nice set up!
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