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My 'Lost Mission' story in new DISCOVER BAJA magazine.


The new (Fall, 2009) edition of DISCOVER BAJA is online and features my story (4 pages with photos) of finding Choral Pepper's lost Santa Maria Magdalena mission site...

There are other stories of interest to Baja Nomads in this new edition, including the earthquakes near L.A. Bay and Marv's photograph of Smith Island shaking! Discover Baja is having a party at the new club location on Sept. 12, as well.

Please enjoy the magazine: http://www.discoverbaja.com/pdf/fall09.pdf




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 06:34 PM


GOOD JOB DK



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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 06:36 PM


I just downloaded it, David...WOW!



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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 06:43 PM


AND...nice foto of 'Lizabeth on the front page



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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 06:50 PM


Good job David. I was my pleasure to help you out. Thank you for the nod and for not divulging it's exact location...yet.



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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 06:57 PM


you guys did good! there's no shame in not regurgitating info for the masses.... history revisited for sure!

now just remember that when someone asks you not to post maps and detailed gps directions to spots you will never return to, much less ever surf.

MAYBE you'll get the correlation now? what's SACRED to you versus what is SACRED to others......

can i get an AMEN from the congregation?




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:11 PM


ahem... I mean amen!:yes:



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THANK YOU AMIGOs!


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you guys did good! there's no shame in not regurgitating info for the masses.... history revisited for sure!

now just remember that when someone asks you not to post maps and detailed gps directions to spots you will never return to, much less ever surf.

MAYBE you'll get the correlation now? what's SACRED to you versus what is SACRED to others......

can i get an AMEN from the congregation?


Thanks Woody...

I never post GPS details of a place someone has taken me to and asked me to not tell.

I actually will return to the mystery spot (lost mission) again... In fact I wish anyone driving to L.A. Bay or on south the 35 miles to investigate the site and report back here what they think it was. This is a human made mystery, so no reason humans shouldn't go there and try to figure it out! A difficult, steep climb is necessary to see the walls up close.

While the directions to the site are not in that article, there is a link to my web page for the discovery which does have the directions.

There are far more online viewers of Baja Nomad than Discover Baja I believe, so the article is more of a tribute to Choral Pepper and the spirit of discovery that still exists in Baja for the folks who have not read my 'Baja 109' trip report (Jan. 2009) here or the discussion on the site.

The editor of the newsletter (Lynn) did a nice job, too!

Maybe I will see some of you at the Discover Baja party on Sept. 12? I will try and be there early (1-2 pm) as we have a family event that afternoon/ evening.




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:23 PM


yeah, just what i thought. someone you respect asks you to shut up and.....

you'll never get it will you?

i never wanted to go here in public, but there are guys just waiting to come bumper to bumper with you out on a single track somewhere, someday, AMIGO!!!! keep it up!

just thought you should know......




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"This is a human made mystery, so no reason humans shouldn't go there and try to figure it out! A difficult, steep climb is necessary to see the walls up close.

While the directions to the site are not in that article, there is a link to my web page for the discovery which does have the directions."

Woody, I take it back. I forgot to ask DK not to post the GPS there but alas, it ain't a secret locale no mo... obviously:no:




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:28 PM


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While the directions to the site are not in that article, there is a link to my web page for the discovery which does have the directions.


why are the details not in the article? why did you point those members to your website? sounds like narcissism again!

i don't really care what you say/think/respond. i just want to call a culo a bruto!

DISCLAIMER!!!! i apologize to all the rest of you.




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:31 PM


Corky, the information has been online for 7 months now... No need to start this again. You didn't take me there, you only showed me a space photo of a line on a hill and asked if it could be the site... I didn't know until I went there and looked in person. I am greatful to you for helping me find the site in such a big region I had been searching over and over.

Why keep such a wonderful mystery from other Baja loving people to enjoy in person as well??? I don't get the need to keep secrets from friends... Aren't all people who love Baja good enough to be friends with?




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While the directions to the site are not in that article, there is a link to my web page for the discovery which does have the directions.


why are the details not in the article? why did you point those members to your website? sounds like narcissism again!

i don't really care what you say/think/respond. i just want to call a culo a bruto!

DISCLAIMER!!!! i apologize to all the rest of you.


Because I didn't EDIT the article, Lynn did... and providing a road log took more room than a link. It isn't a secret and my web site isn't all about me, it's about helping you people find some interesting places to see and some travel and historic details. Have you spent any time at vivabaja.com or the links there?




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:38 PM


Sharks and DK

CONGRATS TO YOU FOR YOUR HISTORICAL FIND.

DK you seem to think that promoting baja is the end all, that you'll somehow not be loved by your mother if you don't post every turn in the road for the masses to digest. i understand your passion as much as you don't CARE/GET IT about anyone else wanting to keep their passions to themselves.

why are your views valid and none others? i've never seen you give an inch as to this subject, why?

WAKE UP! the sandbox is not yours alone!!!



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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:46 PM


Woody I don't hassel you to post details of your surf spots do I?

That you think any spot in Baja is a secret or private to us gringos is beyond me...

I have always drawn maps and written road logs or trip stories... it isn't only me... There are plenty of Baja guidebooks out there... It is just what I do (share my discoveries with my friends and readers).

You do what you like in Baja, and you will never have me tell you to do otherwise... I wouldn't dream of it. If you don't like what someone writes, then don't read it... but don't insist the author stop writing. I get so many positive emails and u2u's about how I have helped someone have a great time in Baja with my posts here on Nomad, I would not even think of stopping.

Sorry you don't like my writing, but I think there are worse things to complain about these days, don't you think, amigo?




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my web site isn't all about me, it's about helping you people find some interesting places to see and some travel and historic details. Have you spent any time at vivabaja.com or the links there?


yes, US PEOPLE...... the same ones who don't appreciate you telling us about places we know about already, and have put in the time and money to get to just to find it as we pictured it in our heads......EMPTY of people, except the locals. remember those "ugly fish camps" as you said? well we have made lifelong friends with the families who inhabit those places you will never return to.

stay on the cortez side and forget about "US PEOPLE"....... why don't you understand "OUR POINT?"

oh, and i have not spent any time at viacaca.com although i'm sure there is some good stuff, just nothing "WE"RE" looking for!




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[*] posted on 8-26-2009 at 07:56 PM


there are no secrets..... except the ones that the you don't know about, and since you'll never return, you'll never know about.

again-why are your views valid but you never give an inch to any other point of view?




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[*] posted on 8-27-2009 at 04:50 AM


Nice article David---it didn't occur to me that you were divulging information that would lead people to build a hotel on the site or something....although I guess someone could start a guided tour of the place but frankly I don't know that some rock walls are that interesting to most people---people do really go for those cave paintings though and I haven't seen Harry Crosby raked over the coals on this board for the invasion of the Sierra San Francisco.

I sympathize with both sides on this issue though, I think you know how I feel about the Sisters, but this article doesn't seem to out of line with any other archeological articles that have been written in the last 50 years.
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[*] posted on 8-27-2009 at 06:09 PM


What MEXITRON said +2!!!!

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[*] posted on 8-27-2009 at 06:37 PM


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again-why are your views valid but you never give an inch to any other point of view?


we're still waiting for you to look in the mirror...... the truth hurts, eh?




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