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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 10:50 PM


Mulegena:

That's 12.24 inches of rain (total, not per second) AND 1312 cubic feet of runoff per second

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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 11:06 PM


Thanks for the correction, Debra. It seemed unlikely, 12.24 inches of rain per second, but having been in John and Julio personally and seen the volume of rain and torent of river... perhaps.

However 12.24 inches of rain total seems too little as John delivered an inch an hour for 24 hours, I believe, which put 10 feet of water in my house; this time it put over 12 feet and went into the attic by a few feet.

Anyway, damn it a mess there. Thanks for the one-stop update, Debra, and a huge thank you to everyone who is helping in the relief efforts in the regions.
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 11:32 PM


Mulegena:

+- 12 inches does seem low, but that's the official estimate. Also, the effect of all those 12 inches throughout the mountains region and all the water from the 39 or so arroyos that are the Mulege watershed (and feed into the valley) would most certainly put that much water in your place.

But, I ask, who was out there measuring the rain during the hurricane? How much water blew out of the rain gauge every second?? :D




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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 05:37 AM


ecomujeres , interesting thought, "How much water blew out of the rain gauge every second??"
I had only 7.5" here and this storm lasted... forever.




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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 11:20 PM


There is something wrong with that quoted estimate.

1 meter = 3.3 feet.
3.3 feet cubed = 35.9 cubic feet = 1 cubic meter
35.9cf/c.m. x 1200cm/sec = 43,000 cubic feet per second, not 1,312cfs.

I might believe 43,000 cfs but that seems high. I've seen the American River at 9,000 cfs and its crazy fast but the cross section is narrow and steep. Mulege has a dramatically wider cross section but moves slower. I've seen the Feather River at 86,000cfs, and that would have cleaned Mulege off the map.

It would be interesting to find out where the rain gauge is and who keeps it.

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[*] posted on 9-17-2009 at 01:51 AM


Hi Mike:

Yep, I corrected the number I had on the translated page. I put cubic feet when it was supposed to be cubic yards. I did it late last night, and this afternoon when I was telling someone about it, and read it first in meters then feet, I said: whoa, that's not right.

Interesting thought, though of yours about the amount. I really know nothing about the subject, but took it to mean that they were perhaps talking about the total amount of run off from rain fall in the area that eventually flowed into the Mulege river, and not necessarily that there was that much running in the river, at any given second. Does that make any sense?

And yeah, who figured out those numbers? Either way, a LOT of water.

Thanks again for your herculean efforts and excellent reports.




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[*] posted on 9-17-2009 at 05:47 AM


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Are you in Mulege helping with the cleanup?
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[*] posted on 10-6-2009 at 05:06 AM


Awesome post...Very interesting indeed. Hope to see more like this one in another threads someday. Hope to also read more comments on this. Nice one!


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[*] posted on 10-6-2009 at 06:57 AM


I am daydreaming about the Mex Govt spending hundreds of millions of pesos building another Hoover Dam down there...but then....it is only a dream
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[*] posted on 10-6-2009 at 09:21 AM


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I am daydreaming about the Mex Govt spending hundreds of millions of pesos building another Hoover Dam down there...but then....it is only a dream


It will have to be named "Juarez" Dam, not Hoover, to entice government support. Now, how about 39 smaller embankments, one for each "arroyo"?
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[*] posted on 10-6-2009 at 09:39 AM


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Originally posted by Beachgirl
I am daydreaming about the Mex Govt spending hundreds of millions of pesos building another Hoover Dam down there...but then....it is only a dream


It will have to be named "Juarez" Dam, not Hoover, to entice government support. Now, how about 39 smaller embankments, one for each "arroyo"?

It would look like the Great Wall of Mexico and would be empty most of the time. Down in Baja its parched unless it "rains flat-out like a lizard drinking" to quote Crocodile Dundee.
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