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[*] posted on 8-19-2018 at 10:10 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
now that needs to be clarified - I have several friends who have recently signed up for Seguro Popular (the have Permanente Residente status).
Can you or can you not sign up for Seguro Popular with PR?

You can. Not only RP, but also RT. The other poster meant that that they refused him because his (not being issued anymore) FM2 was technically not the same as RT/RP, - or so they decided.

Oddly, I don't see requirement to possess either card published anywhere. Only CURP, phot ID and proof of address.

I read about those tightening rules for expats earlier - that you can only have Seguro P if you are ineligible for IMSS. They repeat a statement made by one gringo "relocation specialist", I don't see this requirement published yet.

About that Canadian investor... There were explanations in many sources about Seguro P intended for people who can't afford private coverage AND who are also not members of any socialized plan. Canadian living abroad for more than 7 months a year is not covered by Canadian govt plan, it expires and would take 3 months to reopen the file again if he resumes residing in Canada. If he remains an expat, he is not a member of Canadian plan. In reality, they don't enforce this rule - if this is even a rule. Americans keep Medicare and/or private plans and successfully apply for Seguro Popular. That investor person with multiple businesses in Canada and Mexico was so obviously rich that they just couldn't let it slip.

I appreciate personal experience - was smiling reading your post about missing pillow and blanket. Good ol' Mexico... On the mainland people are saying - bring your own toilet paper too, in Seguro P or IMSS hospitals.

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[*] posted on 8-19-2018 at 02:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
The other poster meant that that they refused him because his (not being issued anymore) FM2 was technically not the same as RT/RP, - or so they decided.

I may not stated that correctly - I do have a RP (used to be be FM2 before the changed name) and I got refused to be processed due to ongoing naturalization procedure.
Yes the Canadian was well known and so was his wealth.....

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
I appreciate personal experience - was smiling reading your post about missing pillow and blanket. Good ol' Mexico... On the mainland people are saying - bring your own toilet paper too, in Seguro P or IMSS hospitals.[Edited on 8-19-2018 by Alm]

Blanket and pillow are important..... much more important:
Either have somebody to empty your "pelicano" or make sure you have 2, 3 with you in bed. Nurses are not always available......




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[*] posted on 8-19-2018 at 07:53 PM


Good, now I know what "pelicano" is, if it comes to this.
Not that there is anything funny about unavailable nurses or missing blankets - didn't mean it of course.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2018 at 07:37 AM


reminds me of that one hospital stay where I pushed the call button one night
no response
no response for a long time
no phone in the room to call anyone
I did not have the phone number of the hospital
googled the hospital to get number
due to intermittently dying internet this took about 20 minutes
then finally called front desk
the guy answering wasn't even surprised that a patient in his own hospital called for help
if I had been a patient with seriously urgent need for help, I would have been dead




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[*] posted on 8-20-2018 at 10:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Good, now I know what "pelicano" is, if it comes to this.


The other piece of "equipment" is called "pato". So with both birds you got full service..... roflmao

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Not that there is anything funny about unavailable nurses or missing blankets - didn't mean it of course.


In hindsight everything can be funny! To me it was only the 3rd time in my life in hospital, the second time with a illness so all was strange. One of the first questions from them was about relatives available. It was past their comprehension range that somebody has none.
Later when I was in there for ambulant treatment I seen why.
Almost every room at station i was (somewhat quarantine with infection warning signs on main door and a lock-type room to go in and out - some used and put paper type uniforms on, others not - and big aquarium like windows) had family members "on call" 24 hrs, there was a constant flow and chatter........

However, no complains, they saved my leg, been always friendly and try their best to make me feel comfortable (different, firmer mattress after 3 days, call several nurses from other stations to get me into shower after medico ok - not so simple with 6'3/240 guy)

I had some longer conversations with some of the younger doctors and learned that lot's of the issues are related to funding. At the time (Dec. 2016) they did not receive federal $'s for 2 month




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[*] posted on 8-20-2018 at 10:51 AM


However horrible, I hope this system will still be there when I apply. Better than nothing. It's still horrible - everybody is telling me about Drs and nurses ignoring you unless you are in the operation room. Not enough personnel, not enough money.

4x4abc, may I ask - was there any problem getting into public hospital as a "pay patient", without Seguro Popular coverage?
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[*] posted on 8-20-2018 at 01:31 PM


Hospital Salvatierra is open to any patient, non Seguro Popular patients get nicer rooms - otherwise service is the same.
The La Paz doctor of your choice that will do the surgery, will book surgery room and patient room for you.
However, a personal trip to see the person in charge at Salvatierra (Claudia) to receive an estimate is mandatory before you check in.
Mexico likes things with double paperwork and extra visits.
You pay according to the estimate when you check in. No charges after surgery, unless you need extra services or a longer stay.

here is how the estimate for a one hour surgery plus a one night stay looks like (surgeon charges are extra)






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[*] posted on 8-20-2018 at 02:24 PM


Thanks Harald.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2018 at 05:44 PM
Need help with long term chronic pain


I’m new to Ensenada. I knew it would be difficult to get my meds down here, but I didn’t think it would be this difficult. I knew to bring my medical records and even handwritten prescriptions, which I knew were not going to be able to be filled but I hoped it might be helpful to show the truth of my need. I’m almost out, maybe a few days.

I read about Dr Raymundo Esquer in Maneadero, Southern Ensenada.

This posting I read here was from 2009. I read he has a controlled substance license, that sounds like someone I can trust.... does anyone have any more current information? I will be in withdrawal soon, I can only imagine what that will be like I will try to google him while I wait to hear from you all. One more thing, I see expat groups for a lot of areas but so far not for Ensenada, any pointers?
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[*] posted on 8-22-2018 at 12:27 PM


Way back to 4x4abc question about signing up for Seguro Popular. I did it with RP. Just went to the hospital, stood in line, signed a few things - done. I don't have a CURP card but the number is on your RP card and that is what they used.

I've never used SP, but I am glad it is there - just in case.

Edit: In spite of my poor Spanish, I found the staff helpful, patient and professional.

A friendly smile goes a long long way.

[Edited on 8-22-2018 by ZipLine]
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