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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 11:42 AM
manta ray recipe?


I recently got a kilo from our local fish guy at a swap meet. I asked him how to cook it . He was very busy and replied in rapid spanish a little to fast for me to understand everything. He said to dice it up, cook it in butter and garlic and then add chopped bell peppers. That is all I understood, do you serve it over rice? or in a tortilla? Any and all recipes would be appreciated.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 12:03 PM


Welcome to BajaNomad, dosbcs. I see it for sale at Com Mex and will try it if someone will tell us how. I've heard Bat Ray wing is a substitute for scallops....maybe it's similar in which case, I'll try it for sure.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 02:25 PM


Hola, when i went fishing in la ribera, the pangero and i exchanged lunches and he gave me a manta ray burrito. seemed to be a bit on the oily side but edible. don't know if it seemed greasy because of the meat or how it was cooked. i have also seen them for sale in the markets and when i visited a beach in todos santos, i saw quite a few carcasses of rays. they are edible.

regarding bat rays...whenever we caught one on the sportboats, and we caught a lot while fishing for white seabass, the deckhands would say to cut the meat of the wings with a scallop shaped cookie cutter and it would be like scallops. whenever we said to them, " you can have it ", they always released them ???? we never brought any home. i think it was just B.S.

by the way, if you catch a bat ray and decide to keep it, watch out for the stinger at the end of the tail !!

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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 02:38 PM


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by the way, if you catch a bat ray and decide to keep it, watch out for the stinger at the end of the tail !!

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT



I thought the stinger was at the base of the tail. :?:
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 04:38 PM


Do not eat, buy or sell Manta Rays - they are being overfished worse that sharks or bluefin tuna - They should be a National treasure like whale sharks. Do not promote exploitative fishing. Just my opinion -
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 04:57 PM


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Do not eat, buy or sell Manta Rays - they are being overfished worse that sharks or bluefin tuna - They should be a National treasure like whale sharks. Do not promote exploitative fishing. Just my opinion -


Thanks, Marv. I didn't know. It's off my list.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 05:26 PM


That's it, I am making a "Vigilante" Crazy Cat GIF with AK-47 that is "Flipper approved" for the Manta Rays. I love petting them at the Sea World in San Diego. They are such gentle creatures!



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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 06:22 PM


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Do not eat, buy or sell Manta Rays - they are being overfished worse that sharks or bluefin tuna - They should be a National treasure like whale sharks. Do not promote exploitative fishing. Just my opinion -


Couldn't agree with you more marv. They are a real treasure, magnificent animals, and they are being slaughtered. They are so docile and vulnerable it is likely that our grandkids will never see one alive. Just to remind those who want to eat them what they look like:





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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 06:45 PM
Why?


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they are being slaughtered.


There's now a demand for manta meat? Doesn't sound very appealing.




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 06:53 PM


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they are being slaughtered.


There's now a demand for manta meat? Doesn't sound very appealing.


They punch out the meat in the "wings" with "cookie cutters" and sell it as "sea scallops". The commercial fishermen did the same thing with angel sharks in California waters until there were almost no more angel sharks. Now any type if ray is fair game, including the big ones.




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 07:07 PM
did not realize they were endangered


and will not purchase it again. But how do I prepare what I have?
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 07:51 PM
Monterrey Style?


Several years ago on a Baja trip with Bajaboy and Tracy, we spent a few days at a fish camp near Bay of LA. On our last morning, we were treated to a feast of freshly caught fish brought in by local pangueros. My Spanish was a little vague, so I thought I was being offered burritos prepared Monterrey style. Bring it on!

When I didn't recognize the texture of the filling, I asked a few more questions. Ahhh! Manta Ray. The salsa and avocado saved the day. It would have been rude to refuse, so I ate two. Now I have a good ecological reason to refrain from eating manta ray.

dosbcs - as I recall, the manta ray was sauteed in oil with onions and chiles in a cast iron skillet. I seem to remember tomatoes and jalapenos, but maybe that's what I wish had been there. Bajaboy may remember more.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 07:54 PM


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But how do I prepare what I have?


I guess you could just follow a recipe for scallops.
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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 08:45 PM


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[Edited on 2-5-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 08:54 PM


I think most of the meat sold in Baja as "manta ray" is probably from the smaller Mobula species. Mobula are still fairly plentiful in the Sea of Cortez. Mobulas are the ones you often see breaching, and unlike mantas, which are solitary, mobulas travel in large schools. True manta rays (Manta birostris) are almost gone in the SOC, although there is a reliable population in the Revillagigedos, most of them at San Benedicto. The fact that they are still in the Revillagigedos is probably a result of the dive boats that regularly visit there, mainly to see the mantas. I think some effort is exerted by the Mexican operators to protect them for that reason. There they are worth more alive than dead.



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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 09:24 PM


I am sure JESSE will chime in on this...

However

I also did not know that the rays were an endangered species, but after a little research, the endangered species are the large manta rays, not the little beach rays seen at many beaches all over Baja. These guys are as common as halibuts. The small rays are sold at most fish markets all over Baja and can commonly be seen sold at the Ensenada fish market. They are very meaty and delicious when fixed Veracruz style. It can also be cut up into fish taco sized strips and served just as one would serve a regular fish taco.
In the US it is also readily available and is commonly known as "SKATE", and restaurants get good bucks for it.
For many recipes, google skate recipes.

Dave, killergato is a cool gif!




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 09:37 PM
Sell it to whom?


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They punch out the meat in the "wings" with "cookie cutters" and sell it as "sea scallops".


They're selling commercially, right? Is it that difficult to tell the difference? :rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 09:46 PM


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They punch out the meat in the "wings" with "cookie cutters" and sell it as "sea scallops".



They're selling commercially, right? Is it that difficult to tell the difference? :rolleyes:


Don't understand Dave. The difference between what and what?


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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 10:37 PM


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Don't understand Dave. The difference between what and what?


Between cut out manta and real sea scallops. How could one not tell the difference?




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[*] posted on 2-4-2010 at 11:06 PM


Someone told me that the caguamanta/cahuamanta stands you see (at least over here on the mainland) are attempts to appeal to Mexican's desire for turtle with a similar legal (or more plentiful) alternative; manta ray meat or, more likely, mobula meat.

True?




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