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AAA is for really serious alcoholics |
Right - those are the ones who drink and drive but want a free map on how to get home...
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JoeJustJoe
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Lets get back to the "madness." First I owe Maggie an apology because of the comments I sent her that she didn't publish because she censors
everything .....was that I took her to task for seemingly losing her friendship with Fulano over SB 1070 and the usual right-wing left wing debates.
She was so hurt over Fulano's ultra right views and felt he was hiding them from her, , and she even called him a crazy racist N-zi as well as other
names!
I didn't think that was right to end a friendship even if it's online over political disagreements even one as controversial as SB 1070, and it seems
Fulano wasn't engaging in the more racial aspect of the debate and putting on the KKK hood and just slamming the undocumented Mexican aliens. Fulano
seemed to debate in a logical well thought out way, although still wrong from my point of view with dubious facts to back himself up.
Boy was I so wrong as Maggie had Fulano pegged before me, and he is indeed a crazy racist N-zi! ( of course I believe Fulano to be a Jew, I should
come up with a better word that N-zi?)
What Fulano does is creates characters like an author would, and goes way beyond forum members that create second handles to troll with. You could
even call these characters that Fulano creates as "multiple handles" who even have conflicts with each other! Later I might submit my findings on
Fulano to some scientific psychological journal or write some magazine article in a place like "Psychology Today" titled "Sybil goes Cyberstalking."
What Fulano does with his main character is try to engage in healthy debates in areas of his interest with a right-wing bent like something you might
see in the right-wing "Weekly Standard" although as hard as Fulano tries to hide for his contempt for Muslims, Mexicans, and Mexico his hate still
comes through but he tries to cover that up with supposedly real facts, but when I look at the facts they usually come from some right-wing hate think
tank. ( a good example is Fulano tried to tell me once that the "tea party" isn't made up of all right-wing racist from the GOP as I have told him,
but rather the "tea party" is made up by a good cross section of Americans from both parties upset about taxes and other issues, and he'll even
support himself with some arcane poll he found somewhere. But the facts are we all know the face of the "tea party" and they are as far right as you
could go and racism seems to fuel their tea party.)
Now what the multiple personalities( handles) do is unleash the ego of Fulano/Arrowhead to say what's really on his mind without the cover of
intellectualism racism, and just get down and dirty with the racial slurs, insults and ugly Americanism behavior. This allows Fulano to remain above
the fray and say he isn't engaging in racism, it's the other members who are doing that, but he can't do anything about it because he has a "no
censoring, no banning policy." ( except now we learn if we push Fulano a little too hard, he will ban and censor you)
Let me show you a few example so somebody doesn't have to visit that disgusting blog:
This is from "Saying, just saying talking about a "BN" member:
He is a drunk pee tank and is a fool.He continues to tell everyone how wonderful Mexico is even though he lives in a tar paper shack beside the TJ
garbage dump with no inside plumbing.
Its a great life except for those hispanics who are not allowed to travel to the USA so they just look over the fence and dream of america.
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Its kind of like being in jail having to live in Mexico.The food sucks,you get the trots alot and there is no toilet paper.
Enjoy yourself down there pedro and when you get a green card or manage to sneak across the Rio Grande, call me and I will let you do my gardening at
my house.
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I will tell you. Tacos,burritos,small dogs,dangleballs,greasy hair,lowriders,lousy beer,
plastic jesus statues,poverty,raw sewage everywhere,garbage everywhere.corruption,land rippoffs
and cowardice .
Such a great culture you have and so proud you must be.
Why don't you see if any of your countrymen can pool their money together and buy some toilet paper you filthy bastards.
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These are some of the tamer messages. I haven't even started on some of the more colorful hateful characters on that Fulano Files blog.
Now this blog does have some real Jim Jones type of "followers" who drink Fulano's kool-aide and hang onto every word like it's "gospel.' Sadly we
even have a few members from "BN" who are real believers and cult members of that blog, but most of the members there are Fulano and is characters or
ban ex-members of 'BN' who have been ran out of Mexico on a rail and now are bitter towards Mexico, but trying to figuring out who is who is a
nightmare.
The saga continues:
[Edited on 9-14-2010 by JoeJustJoe]
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I so much wanted to finish up the final chapter today in this saga, but a lot of things came up, but perhaps later or tomorrow I might get it done.
But I did want the members here to know that the "Fulano Files" has been reported to the Southern Poverty Law Center" as a possible"hate group/blog"
candidate, and samples of the blog and espeically the comments section were sent to the "SPLC" and they say everything was forwarded to the
intelligence group within the "SPLC" that makes that determination.
I don't know what criteria the "SPLC" uses to make their hate list besides hate? It could be the "FF" doesn't have enough "unique visitors" to even
bother with it.( I know Fulano has a lot of multiple personalities running around in his head, but how many hits can they make on the blog?)
But I do know that "Los Vos de Aztlan" has made the list of a hate group for it's anti-Semitic remarks, but if you ask me "Los Vos de Aztlan" is
mild compared to the "Fulano Files" espeically the comment section. In fact once in awhile I'm researching something and find myself looking at a post
from "Stormfront" the white nationalist forum, and even there members are better behaved and less racist than the "FF" and it's members!
Sometimes when I'm debating some right-winger on immigration(SB 1070) on my site or elsewhere. They will often back themselves up with facts from a
seemingly above reproach "think tank" like the "CIC" but thanks to a little digging you could find out from the "SPLC" that the "CIC" is only a
front for "white nationalists" who are also Holocaust deniers, who want to live in a all white country and will bend the fact on their research to
further their cause.
But what I like to do is simply tell them that the "SPLC" has listed their think tank as a hate group, and it just devastates the right-wingers whole
argument when you bring to focus what the "CIC" or other like minded groups are really about.
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What is the motivation of so much hate from Fulano/Arrowhead?
Well to attempt to find that answer you have to attempt to find out who Fulano really is.
Josie from this site I believe hit the nail on the head on who Fulano really was. She named a Charles Mark X ( I'll leave the last name blank, because
outing people's name is something I don't do, although if you look at the link above you might get your information your looking for.) I just call him
Chucky like like his demonic counterpart in the movies.
Chucky is 63 years old Jewish American( probably explains his Islamphobia) And he has lived in a few places in Southern California including on a
street called Arrowhead, and I don't believe he works and has some sort of Physical disability although I'm sure if they examined his head they
would also find a mental disability if they already haven't?
Fulano says he has been married to the same Mexican-American women for 30 years, but if you read the research of others or do it yourself; you'll see
Fulano has been married a few times, and Josie has told us that his Mexican wife left him, and his daughter didn't speak to him when she was alive.
His daughter died of Addison's disease and had diabetes. Apparently the split was so bad that Fulano's name isn't even mentioned in the obituary! We
could only guess what happened, but guess is the daughter with her Mexican blood didn't live up to Fulano's expectations and he really flipped out
when she was bringing home Mexican-American boys!( there is a picture of both of them and the daughter Melissa looks very Mexican) What else could it
be? Fulano rejected his daughter and the daughter and mother rejected Fulano right back.
Fulano engages in a lot of transference of pain, hate and bitterness. He did it to me, and Mexicorn..claiming we were the same person when he must
know by now we are not. I believe Fulano transferred his rejections and hurt feelings from his daughter and ex-wife to Mexico and Mexicans. Nobody
has it in for Mexico and Mexicans as Fulano as far as I know. I never seen anything like it.
There are some to say Chucky suffered major business investment losses that put him in bankruptcy and made him lose his home. The company was
"Peregrine" where the CEO and others cooked the books and after the stock had a good run up before it went belly up due to the accounting problems of
cooking the books.
Another one of Fulano's pet peeves is Mexican rip off scams, and lying "BN" members( you are lying according to Fulano if you say Mexico isn't that
dangerous, and not everybody is out to rip you off) I believe because of Fulano's business losses that he has turned into a vigilante like character
like a Charles Bronson, except Fulano fights white collar crime, and only warns of the physical dangers in Mexico.( why he doesn't concentrate on the
US has me a little confused?)
Now for the proof, as you can never be 100 percent sure. But if you ask me everything fits into a nice little puzzle, and accounts for Fulano's
bitterness. We got one angry bitter old dude, and he is looking to take it out on "BN" members, along with Mexico, Mexicans, and scam artists.
Fulano once said he lived in Running Springs, off a certain street. If you check Chucky lived in Running Springs off a certain street. Chucky once
drew a picture of Janice Joplin in 2001. Fulano in 2009 drew the very same exact picture of Joplin, and I might add it wasn't very good.
Fulano in his blog says he is a private pilot. Guess what? Arrowhead talked a lot about flying on "BN" and Chucky has a active pilots license.( you
can check online)
Fulano talks a lot about real estate in Mexico, and it turns out Chucky has an active real estate license he isn't using in California and might have
worked for a big eight accounting firm in real estate.( the Big eight stuff is a little iffy and I'm not as sure as I am on the other things.)
If you ask me I believe I found my man who is Fulano, and everything fits together like a crime puzzle does, but of of course there are other things
I'm sure I don't know, and others aren't telling me.
Now I pretty much believe a guy like this is harmless, and probably hasn't been in Mexico in years. However, if he finds something about you, there is
no hesitation. He will try to "out" you.
I hope Chuck/Fulano finds the help and peace he needs.
[Edited on 9-18-2010 by JoeJustJoe]
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JoeJustJoe
I also hope you find the peace you need!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false
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Copied from the website: www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
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Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile
and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a
complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and
opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing
stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by
insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating
hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their
impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant
behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but
blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
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Other Related Qualities:
1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)
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NOTE: In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity." By 1900 it was changed to "psychopathic personality." More recently it has been termed
"antisocial personality disorder" in the DSM-III and DSM-IV. Some critics have complained that, in the attempt to rely only on 'objective' criteria,
the DSM has broadened the concept to include too many individuals. The APD category includes people who commit illegal, immoral or self-serving acts
for a variety of reasons and are not necessarily psychopaths.
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DSM-IV Definition
Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked
inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociopaths.
Diagnostic Criteria (DSM-IV)
1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local
culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:
A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
D. Repeated assaults on others.
E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.
2. At least eighteen years in age.
3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.
4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.
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Antisocial Personality Disorder Overview (Written by Derek Wood, RN, BSN, PhD Candidate)
Antisocial Personality Disorder results in what is commonly known as a Sociopath. The criteria for this disorder require an ongoing disregard for the
rights of others, since the age of 15 years. Some examples of this disregard are reckless disregard for the safety of themselves or others, failure to
conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors, deceitfulness such as repeated lying or deceit for personal profit or pleasure, and lack of
remorse for actions that hurt other people in any way. Additionally, they must have evidenced a Conduct Disorder before the age of 15 years, and must
be at least 18 years old to receive this diagnosis.
People with this disorder appear to be charming at times, and make relationships, but to them, these are relationships in name only. They are ended
whenever necessary or when it suits them, and the relationships are without depth or meaning, including marriages. They seem to have an innate ability
to find the weakness in people, and are ready to use these weaknesses to their own ends through deceit, manipulation, or intimidation, and gain
pleasure from doing so.
They appear to be incapable of any true emotions, from love to shame to guilt. They are quick to anger, but just as quick to let it go, without
holding grudges. No matter what emotion they state they have, it has no bearing on their future actions or attitudes.
They rarely are able to have jobs that last for any length of time, as they become easily bored, instead needing constant change. They live for the
moment, forgetting the past, and not planning the future, not thinking ahead what consequences their actions will have. They want immediate rewards
and gratification. There currently is no form of psychotherapy that works with those with antisocial personality disorder, as those with this disorder
have no desire to change themselves, which is a prerequisite. No medication is available either. The only treatment is the prevention of the disorder
in the early stages, when a child first begins to show the symptoms of conduct disorder.
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THE PSYCHOPATH NEXT DOOR (Source: http://chericola57.tripod.com/infinite.html)
Psychopath. We hear the word and images of Bernardo, Manson and Dahmer pop into our heads; no doubt Ted Bundy too. But they're the bottom of the
barrel -- most of the two million psychopaths in North America aren't murderers. They're our friends, lovers and co-workers. They're outgoing and
persuasive, dazzling you with charm and flattery. Often you aren't even aware they've taken you for a ride -- until it's too late.
Psychopaths exhibit a Jekyll and Hyde personality. "They play a part so they can get what they want," says Dr. Sheila Willson, a Toronto psychologist
who has helped victims of psychopaths. The guy who showers a woman with excessive attention is much more capable of getting her to lend him money, and
to put up with him when he strays. The new employee who gains her co-workers' trust has more access to their chequebooks. And so on. Psychopaths have
no conscience and their only goal is self-gratification. Many of us have been their victims -- at work, through friendships or relationships -- and
not one of us can say, "a psychopath could never fool me."
Think you can spot one? Think again. In general, psychopaths aren't the product of broken homes or the casualties of a materialistic society. Rather
they come from all walks of life and there is little evidence that their upbringing affects them. Elements of a psychopath's personality first become
evident at a very early age, due to biological or genetic factors. Explains Michael Seto, a psychologist at the Centre for Addiction and Mental health
in Toronto, by the time that a person hits their late teens, the disorder is almost certainly permanent. Although many clinicians use the terms
psychopath and sociopath interchangeably, writes psychopath expert Robert Hare on his book 'Without Conscience', a sociopath's criminal behavior is
shaped by social forces and is the result of a dysfunctional environment.
Psychopaths have only a shallow range of emotions and lack guilt, says Hare. They often see themselves as victims, and lack remorse or the ability to
empathize with others. "Psychopaths play on the fact that most of us are trusting and forgiving people," adds Seto. The warning signs are always
there; it's just difficult to see them because once we trust someone, the friendship becomes a blinder.
Even lovers get taken for a ride by psychopaths. For a psychopath, a romantic relationship is just another opportunity to find a trusting partner who
will buy into the lies. It's primarily why a psychopath rarely stays in a relationship for the long term, and often is involved with three or four
partners at once, says Willson. To a psychopath, everything about a relationship is a game. Willson refers to the movie 'Sliding Doors' to illustrate
her point. In the film, the main character comes home early after just having been fired from her job. Only moments ago, her boyfriend has let another
woman out the front door. But in a matter of minutes he is the attentive and concerned boyfriend, taking her out to dinner and devoting the entire
night to comforting her. All the while he's planning to leave the next day on a trip with the other woman.
The boyfriend displays typical psychopathic characteristics because he falsely displays deep emotion toward the relationship, says Willson. In
reality, he's less concerned with his girlfriend's depression than with making sure she's clueless about the other woman's existence. In the romance
department, psychopaths have an ability to gain your affection quickly, disarming you with words, intriguing you with grandiose plans. If they cheat
you'll forgive them, and one day when they've gone too far, they'll leave you with a broken heart (and an empty wallet). By then they'll have a new
player for their game.
The problem with their game is that we don't often play by their rules. Where we might occasionally tell a white lie, a psychopath's lying is
compulsive. Most of us experience some degree of guilt about lying, preventing us from exhibiting such behavior on a regular basis. "Psychopaths don't
discriminate who it is they lie to or cheat," says Seto. "There's no distinction between friend, family and sucker."
No one wants to be the sucker, so how do we prevent ourselves from becoming close friends or getting into a relationship with a psychopath? It's
really almost impossible, say Seto and Willson. Unfortunately, laments Seto, one way is to become more suspicious and less trusting of others. Our
tendency is to forgive when we catch a loved one in a lie. "Psychopaths play on this fact," he says. "However, I'm certainly not advocating a world
where if someone lies once or twice, you never speak to them again." What you can do is look at how often someone lies and how they react when caught.
Psychopaths will lie over and over again, and where other people would sincerely apologize, a psychopath may apologize but won't stop.
Psychopaths also tend to switch jobs as frequently as they switch partners, mainly because they don't have the qualities to maintain a job for the
long haul. Their performance is generally erratic, with chronic absences, misuse of company resources and failed commitments. Often they aren't even
qualified for the job and use fake credentials to get it. Seto talks of a patient who would get marketing jobs based on his image; he was a
presentable and charming man who layered his conversations with educational and occupational references. But it became evident that the man hadn't a
clue what he was talking about, and was unable to hold down a job.
How do you make sure you don't get fooled when you're hiring someone to baby-sit your child or for any other job? Hire based on reputation and not
image, says Willson. Check references thoroughly. Psychopaths tend to give vague and inconsistent replies. Of course the best way to solve this
problem would be to cure psychopaths of their 'illness.' But there's no recipe for treating them, say psychiatrists. Today's traditional methods of
psychotherapy (psychoanalysis, group and one-on-one therapy) and drug treatments have failed. Therapy is more likely to work when an individual admits
there's a problem and wants to change. The common problem with psychopaths, says Sets, "Is they don't see a problem with their behavior."
Psychopaths don't seek therapy willingly, says Seto. Rather, they're pushed into it by a desperate relative or by a court order. To a psychopath, a
therapist is just one more person who must be conned, and the psychopath plays the part right until the therapist is convinced of his or her
'rehabilitation.'
Even though we can't treat psychopaths effectively with therapy, it doesn't mean we can't protect ourselves, writes Hare. Willson agrees, citing the
most important factor in keeping psychopaths at bay is to know your vulnerabilities. We need to "realize our own potential and maximize our strengths"
so that our insecurities don't overcome us. Because, she says, a psychopath is a chameleon who becomes "an image of what you haven't done for
yourself." Over time, she says, "their appearance of perfection will begin to crack," but by that time you will have been emotionally and perhaps
financially scathed. There comes a time when you realize there's no point in searching for answers; the only thing is to move on.
Taken in part from MW -- By Caroline Konrad -- September 1999
THE MALIGNANT PERSONALITY:
These people are mentally ill and extremely dangerous! The following precautions will help to protect you from the destructive acts of which they are
capable.
First, to recognize them, keep the following guidelines in mind.
(1) They are habitual liars. They seem incapable of either knowing or telling the truth about anything.
(2) They are egotistical to the point of narcissism. They really believe they are set apart from the rest of humanity by some special grace.
(3) They scapegoat; they are incapable of either having the insight or willingness to accept responsibility for anything they do. Whatever the
problem, it is always someone else's fault.
(4) They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed.
(5) Genuine religious, moral, or other values play no part in their lives. They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence. Under older
psychological terminology, they fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but unlike the typical psychopath, their behavior is masked by a
superficial social facade.
If you have come into conflict with such a person or persons, do the following immediately!
(1) Notify your friends and relatives of what has happened.
Do not be vague. Name names, and specify dates and circumstances. Identify witnesses if possible and provide supporting documentation if any is
available.
(2) Inform the police. The police will do nothing with this information except to keep it on file, since they are powerless to act until a crime has
been committed. Unfortunately, that often is usually too late for the victim. Nevertheless, place the information in their hands.
Obviously, if you are assaulted or threatened before witnesses, you can get a restraining order, but those are palliative at best.
(3) Local law enforcement agencies are usually under pressure if wealthy or politically powerful individuals are involved, so include state and
federal agencies as well and tell the locals that you have. In my own experience, one agency that can help in a pinch is the Criminal Investigation
Division of the Internal Revenue Service or (in Canada) Victims Services at your local police unit. It is not easy to think of the IRS as a potential
friend, but a Swedish study showed that malignant types (the Swedes called them bullies) usually commit some felony or other by the age of twenty. If
the family is wealthy, the fact may never come to light, but many felonies involve tax evasion, and in such cases, the IRS is interested indeed. If
large amounts of money are involved, the IRS may solve all your problems for you. For obvious reasons the Drug Enforcement Agency may also be an
appropriate agency to approach. The FBI is an important agency to contact, because although the FBI does not have jurisdiction over murder or assault,
if informed, they do have an active interest in any other law enforcement agencies that do not follow through with an honest investigation and
prosecution should a murder occur. Civil rights are involved at that point. No local crooked lawyer, judge, or corrupt police official wants to be
within a country mile if that comes to light! It is in such cases that wealthy psychopaths discover just how firm the "friends" they count on to cover
up for them really are! Even some of the drug cartel biggies will scuttle for cover if someone picks up the brick their thugs hide under. Exposure is
bad for business.
(4) Make sure that several of your friends have the information in the event something happens to you. That way, an appropriate investigation will
follow if you are harmed. Don't tell other people who has the information, because then something bad could happen to them as well. Instruct friends
to take such an incident to the newspapers and other media.
If you are dealing with someone who has considerable money, you must realize that they probably won't try to harm you themselves, they will contract
with someone to make the hit. The malignant type is a coward and will not expose himself or herself to personal danger if he or she can avoid it.
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JoeJustJoe, All that typing is gonna give you carpal tunnel problems.
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JoeJustJoe, All that typing is gonna give you carpal tunnel problems.
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I'm use to doing a lot of typing, and I do hope you do know the above post on "Profile of the Sociopath' was from Mexicorn and not me?
It sure is accurate about Fulano, but if I were writing it I'd have a bit of an introduction, and wouldn't post the whole thing, but rather link it
for those that are interested. I can't fault Mexicorn as he was taken the brunt of the attacks on the "FF." I'm just mad this guy was trying to look
into my background, and is using me to discredit Mexicorn. I also don't like the over-the-top racism on that blog.
I would have also included something on "Dissociative identity disorder" like this. As never in my life have I seen somebody have so many
personalities in their head, but Fulano has no creativity all his characters are racist right-wingers with a white or Jewish superiority complex:
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From Wikipedia with link on bottom of the page:
Dissociative identity disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a condition in which a person displays multiple distinct identities or
personalities (known as alter egos or alters), each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. In the International
Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems the name for this diagnosis is multiple personality disorder. In both systems of
terminology, the diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior with an associated memory loss
that goes beyond normal forgetfulness; in addition, symptoms cannot be the temporary effects of drug use or a general medical condition.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
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Cypress
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So you and Fulano aren't on the same page.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Copied from....
lots of blah, blah, blah
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joejoe (aka mexicornhole):
learn to cut/paste shorter summaries. none of us got time to read your long winded crap.
[Edited on 9-19-2010 by mtgoat666]
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mexicorn
Copied from....
lots of blah, blah, blah
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joejoe (aka mexicornhole):
learn to cut/paste shorter summaries. none of us got time to read your long winded crap.
[Edited on 9-19-2010 by mtgoat666] |
Somebody give Cypress a cookie.
Mtgoat Satan, I believe you were going to make one of Fulano's "What lies Beneath" stories as he said you were a very interesting character and he had
a lot of dirt on, but it went against his moral code because you didn't break any of his rules. I can't exactly recall what he said, but if you lied
meaning didn't go along with his and Maggie's "agenda" that Mexico is a very corrupt and dangerous place and no one should even visit Mexico let alone
live there, or tried to paint a very favorable picture of life in Mexico like you live in a big house, but the truth is you live in a dump like a
trailer.....then Fulano's is going to have it in for you, because he needs to protect Americans from Mexico, and people who promote Mexico who are
sending these people to get hurt, killed or ripped off.
Of course I think you make that list if you even insult him a few times.
Now I don't condone what he does, as I don't believe anybody needs to be "outed' because they have a different opinion, but I would be lying if I said
I wasn't interested in the dirt he has on you Mt Goat.
So go insult the crazy guy or even go to the " is Baja safe" thread and tell the guy you think Baja is very safe, and maybe you'll see you name on "
BN death pool" of outing that person to their real lifestyle in Baja.
Here is how his attacks start off as he is on number 6 already:
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BajaNomads: What Lies Beneath - Part 6
There are some good, honest and sincere people who hang out on the BajaNomad message board. Unfortunately, there are also some not-so-good people
there too. The dregs of humanity: lunatics, crooks, druggies, perverts, paranoid schizophrenics, psychopaths, sociopaths, alcoholics, senile old
farts, pedophiles and plain weirdos. Even more unfortunate is that the person who runs the forum cannot differentiate the good from the bad. Or, maybe
that is by design. I don't know. Even worse than the forum moderator's inability to sort it all out, is that many innocent readers don't know what
lies beneath. They sometimes get caught unaware in the riptide.
This is the sixth in a series Fulano will do from time to time on some of the more interesting denizens of BajaNomad.
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DENNIS
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Why is this even happening here....The Joe /Mexicorn tag team nonsense? It really isn't a Baja theme.
It isn't even a decent theme. Why do we have to be subjected to this???
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JoeJustJoe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Why is this even happening here....The Joe /Mexicorn tag team nonsense? It really isn't a Baja theme.
It isn't even a decent theme. Why do we have to be subjected to this??? |
I'm new here, so maybe you can help me out with what a proper "Baja theme" is? There seems to be quite a few non Baja topics here.
Dennis are you the Miss Manners of "BN?" You seem to spend a lot of time talking about proper themes, and the kind of members that should be on "BN"
and the kind of members that should be banned.
With over 6500 hits this looks like a very successful thread, and I notice there are a few threads of this nature on "BN."
What are you really afraid of Dennis? That we are going to find out what your relationship is to Fulano/Arrowhead and the hate that blog spews.
Dennis why aren't you speaking out against that blog that attacks fellow "Nomad" members and tries to out them. Why aren't you speaking out against
the Mexico bashing and the pure racism in the comments sections which by the way you often join in. Tell the "BN" members how you feel towards Ines
Sainz the Spanish reporter in the NY Jets locker room where you trashed her on that blog.( it wasn't that bad, but it wasn't good either and reeked
with sexism and anti Spanish/Mexican sentiment)
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JoeJustJoe
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I think this sage would be remissed if I didn't mention a few characters in this Fulano hate fest adventure in blogging. You'll find these characters
in the comment section where they are essentially yes men to whatever Fulano writes, and they're there to add color(racist comments) to support
Fulano's hateful views in ways he can't because he really has dreams that people will take him seriously as a blog writer in Mexico.
Briefly I'll mention Carlos the supposedly racist self hating Latino. He claims when he was young his Latino parents tried to teach him Spanish but
he rebelled and demanded his parents talk to him "English only!" He really comes up with stupid things like this when he isn't engaging in racial
hatred. Sometimes when he is bashing Mexicans he'll take off his Latino hat, and say he isn't Latino.
I could find no real character on "BN" that matches the Carlos personality, and pretty much conclude Carlos is just another character that
Fulano/Arrowhead created like an author creates for a book except Fulano does it for a blog, and perhaps later for a book who knows?
Carlos serves a purpose and just about all right-wing conservatives look to or create a character like Carlos to put out there to push their agenda.
The conservatives have the conservative Black Thomas Sowell to push their agenda, and to quote. ( never mind that Blacks vote 90 percent Democrat and
think Thomas Sowell is a fool) But Carlos serves that purpose to give the impression that other Latinos go along with conservative thinking and
that they could actually be for something like SB 1070.
You'll also find Carlos on Maggie's Madness where he flirts with her, but it's pretty obvious to anyone that Carlos is really Fulano.
I'll talk about one other member only, because I don't want to completely bore the readers here, although I must say I'm impressed of the number of
hits this thread gets. ( sorry other personalities you don't rate)
The member I"m going to talk about next could even be real, and could be a ex-member here that was banned from "BN" and ran out of Mexico, and
probably accounts for his bitterness towards Mexico.
stay tuned.
[Edited on 9-23-2010 by JoeJustJoe]
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JoeJustJoe
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The other troubled character I wanted to talk about is Bob. But I'm not 100 percent sure if Bob is just another figment of Fulano's imagination or if
he is real?
It's really hard to say, but if Bob is real? Then Bob is also banned ex member palmeto99 , aka 5 o'clock Charlie that this site has a long thread on.
It's another perfect fit of the puzzle that I'm working on to figure out who these guys are and their motivations.
Take a look at Palmeto/Charlie/Bob/Pierce's writing below and you'll understand why he is so bitter, hateful, racist, and doesn't want anybody to
visit Mexico at all.
This is the common theme of all these negative guys and Maggie. Somewhere in their lives they had a very negative experience in Mexico, and now it's
their life mission to keep others from enjoying Mexico. It's really tragic, and I got to laugh at the story below. Did Pierce actually believe he was
going to be put in prison, and killed? They sure ran this guy out of town, and I bet half the things he said aren't even true.
Now the blogger that runs "Burro Hall" tied Bob to Pierce in SC, and I agree it's a perfect fit. However, there are things that also make me believe
that Bob is actually Fulano too. For example when I use to post on that blog before I was banned. I would write something and within a matter of
minutes Bob would respond to my writings. I know Fulano is always on his blog every waking minute, but I wouldn't expect another person would be even
if they were Fulano's followers. There are a couple of other things too. Bob would know things said about me on other sites that Fulano researched but
I wouldn't expect others to know or remember? Bob also use to pre-warn me that Fulano was about to drop a bombshell on me.( that I was supposedly
Mexicorn) But Fulano himself never made mention of that. So how would Bob know these things unless he was sleeping with Fulano or they were
coordinating their efforts by e-mail.
So this has me a little confused? So either Fulano is Bob too, or Bob is sharing some kind of real or virtual bed with Fulano?
Next a little about myself, and why I'm Joe, just Joe.
From "BN" on palmeto99 :
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Name: Pierce
My wife and I left Baja after 8 years of running both a bar and grill and a real estate and development business in Mulege north of Loreto , BCS.
While we had gotten used to the bribes required of all levels of government,We will ill prepared for the attempt at jailing us because of a conflict
with another realtor in Mulege( a mexican national). We got out just in time as phoney charges and BS just about had me spending 2 years in jail
awaiting charges which would never come to fruition. I was informed by a cop I knew that I would was to be killed in jail awaiting trial . We are back
in the USA and have left all land and property which has had every level of government employee trying to gain ownership by any means possible.
Please do not retire in Mexico,visit Mexico, or invest in Mexico. The vast majority of people there think that all americans are to be fleeced and
that any land they sell will come back to them someday. We will never return and are willing to give up what is ours just to be safe.
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Cypress
Elite Nomad
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Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
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I'll pass on the cookies. Give 'em to somebody else.
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Mexicorn
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Hey Fu- I've Just received confirmation on your Idenity.
Are you concerned?
You have said a lot of things about me you should be concerned about.
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Mexicorn
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Majorie your a gutless COWARD!
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JoeJustJoe
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It's nice to see this thread get so many hits, but at the same time there are few responses. I guess in the end Fulano is pretty boring, unless you
are like me who like to study crazy people. But I also think a few here are reluctant to say anything out of fear that they will end up being a "BN"
member of the day on his blog with all the dirt he could find out you. And I happen to have a sharp tongue when I feel member lashes out against me in
a trolling way, but I'm not going to do that anymore, at least not in this thread. So feel free to criticize my saga, except those on that hateful
blog. ( you guys I'll respond too)
But the reason I'm here today is that I feel despite me saying a number of times I'm not Mexicorn, the guy Fulano claims is really Mark a guy that's
involved in law enforcement. BTW playing a cop on 'forums" is very popular with "posers." But what you find is "posers" talk about their career all
the time, while the real cops never say a word about it. The same thing about the "Special force" guys who hang out on forums of all kinds.( this has
nothing to do with the topic, but it's something that I have noticed over the years)
I would expect the banned losers from "BN" would be saying I'm Mexicorn, because they believe anything Fulano says, but I also have others like
Maggie, on SDUT in order to discredit my comments over there claims I'm Mexicorn, and that I'm some administrator of a "sex site!" And of course she
links me to child porn! Hell, I tell the readers that Maggie is also a member there, and I link her to being a Madam!( I could make up crap too like
these people too, although I am a member on that site just like Maggie)
Just the other day I received a email from a "BN" member in good standing. I already think he is crazy, because he has been sending me email about the
defamation case that some Attorney Fast Eddie is suppose to be pursuing against other "BN members, or ex-members. ( yeah sure they are going to
extradite an American from the US and jail him in Mexico because he said untrue and insulting words....right!) But now this crazy "BN" member is
upset with me, because I gather I make fun of this other "BN" member on the "FF" all the time. So now I have this crazy guy from "BN' making
crazy,ridiculous, and outrageous threats against me that nobody would be able to carry out. I guess if you think a Mexican lawyer could extradite an
American back to Mexico for insulting someone you might believe anything?
So I want to punch holes in this rumor that Joe, Just Joe, and Mexicorn are one in the same. As far as I know Mexicorn and me are Mexican-American. We
don't like Fulano, Maggie, Dennis, and a few others very much, and we are both pretty much liberals when talking about politics. But that's where the
similarities stop. Now I don't know if Mexicorn enjoys my same hobby in the zona Norte or not? I certainly wouldn't believe it because Fulano says so,
because that guy says a lot of false things to discredit somebody. But I do know many "BN" members do go to the"Zona Norte" and I myself have found
gay blogs regarding the area started by current or ex "BN" members.( I know because they join my favorite forum and try to link their blog.) There are
also a few regular sex blogs regarding the area, that may or may not be ran by ex or current "BN" members.
So just because Fulano thinks he found somebody linked to a sex blog doesn't mean it's Joe, Just Joe. There could be dozens of possible suspects, and
not Joe, Just Joe is the lone pervert in the world. Hell I know if I were married to Maggie, I'd find a way to the zona, but that's just me. I don't
know what Maggie's real husband does?
Lets take a few looks at the differences between Mexicorn, and myself.
Fulano claims that Mexicorn doesn't have kids but has three dogs. Well I have three kids, a dog, and a cat. On my forum every once in awhile I talk
about my young adult children proudly or not so proudly. ( in the next post I'm going post something I posted about them in 2005) I talk about my
oldest son who is in Law School, and I most recently wrote a detailed tale on my daughters drunk driving charge, and how I'm pulling out my hair over
that one, and her lawyer who over charged with a lot of promises, but wants to accept the best deal the DA offers like most lawyers. I have even
recently wrote in 2009 how once me and my dog a poodle/terrier mix was attacked by two Rottweilers, and how I reported the owner. ( My dog is
different from Mexicorns dogs)
Mexicorn seems to like law enforcement and people in the military. On my site people complain about me because sometimes I call the police "pig cops"
when talking about a police brutality case, or stopping blacks or Mexicans while driving Black or Brown. I don't treat the people in the military any
better than I would treat a trash collector who is taking care of his family. In fact many times I say a young person is foolish joining the military
because they aren't protecting America, but rather they are protecting the defense and oil big corporations.
Mexicorn wants us to honor the military people on those special holidays, and I say what about the local trash man? When does he get honored for
taking care of his family instead of running off to die for Haliburton like the solider?
Fulano says that me, Joe, Just Joe, is up 24 hours a day lurking on his blog and making threats. Well I am there often, because many times I work at
home, and check that site from time to time, but it's not always me. But the question, that begs to be asked is: How could I be on the "FF" at all
hours of day and night if I'm also working in my law enforcement job?( the ISP numbers he is getting isn't from Black berry. So how does Fulano
explain that one?
Thinks about that one.
Next I'll give examples how Fulano made false accusations before about others being Mexicorn, because he just hates Mexicorn, and wants to discredit
him as much as possible.( of course now he hates me too)
[Edited on 9-30-2010 by JoeJustJoe]
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