Oggie
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BOLA to San Borja and Rancho San Gregorio
Photos of our trip, last week, to Mission San Borja and Rancho San Gregorio
Big Cordon
Green Desert
The Road
Trail to the old San Gregorio Ranch House
At the old ranch house
Picnic with Carolina, Matt, and I, at the old ranch
Rock terrace
Holding a Baja California Rat Snake
Rat Snake
Iguana
Gopher Snake?
My dog Patch and I
Carolina and Martin in the garden at Rancho San Gregorio
Fairy Duster
Baby Mule
San Borja looking North
Find the rattler
I am heading south again next week and will take more pictures.
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Bajaboy
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Good stuff-Thanks!
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Skipjack Joe
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That gopher snake (if that's what it is) is remarkably beautiful. I hope to see one like that some day.
The desert scenes are just so inviting.
Thanks for sharing.
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David K
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Thank you so much for sharing your photos... They are fantastic!
I am glad to see so little has changed since Amo Pescar, Neal Johns, Chris and I went there in 2001...
Who is tending the garden? Is there someone living at the end of the road or at the ranch? That trail to the ranch from the road is the El Camino
Real, eastern or 'Gulfo' route between Santa Gertrudis and San Borja.
Thanks again!
Here are a couple photos from 2001:
Here's the same place in the early 1950's (Howard Gulick collection):
Note the cut stone that the adobe is built upon... mission-era construction:
Garden terraces:
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Baja&Back
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Is that Carolina Espinoza from the museo??
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BornFisher
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Great pics, thanks. Are you sure that isn`t really a four toed, banded tail, spotted, green bellied, geico lizard?
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Oggie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Thank you so much for sharing your photos... They are fantastic!
I am glad to see so little has changed since Amo Pescar, Neal Johns, Chris and I went there in 2001...
Who is tending the garden? Is there someone living at the end of the road or at the ranch? That trail to the ranch from the road is the El Camino
Real, eastern or 'Gulfo' route between Santa Gertrudis and San Borja.
Thanks again!
Here are a couple photos from 2001:
Here's the same place in the early 1950's (Howard Gulick collection):
Note the cut stone that the adobe is built upon... mission-era construction:
Garden terraces:
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The Viavincencio(sp) family is tending the garden and living near the end of the road.
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Oggie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja&Back
Is that Carolina Espinoza from the museo?? |
Yes, She came with us and was a fountain of information on the people, places, and all things natural.
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David K
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Villavicencio (I think)... Cool, there were abandoned or empty shacks there in 2001... We camped there.
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Oggie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Villavicencio (I think)... Cool, there were abandoned or empty shacks there in 2001... We camped there. |
The garden is where the old shacks were located. A new large building and smaller casitas are being built to serve as a center for learning and is
associated with the Vermillion Sea Field Station in BOLA.
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David K
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Great... How was the road in... are the brush and cactus still scratching the sides of trucks, or did they trim them back for all the traffic now?
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Oggie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Great... How was the road in... are the brush and cactus still scratching the sides of trucks, or did they trim them back for all the traffic now?
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My Jeep and your tacoma will make it just fine, however my F350 Duelly won't.
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Santiago
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Once you left San Borja, were you able to drive there by yourself or did you need to 'hire' one of the boys to guide you?
great photos.
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Oggie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
Once you left San Borja, were you able to drive there by yourself or did you need to 'hire' one of the boys to guide you?
great photos. |
After reading about the aggressive tour guides, in the Mission and the caretakers son's, that in the past I had not experienced in previous visits, I
was paying close attention as to how we were treated.
We were contacted almost immeadiatley upon approaching the Mission by a woman connected with the Catholic Church.
She asked us if we would like a tour of the mission. We said yes and were encouraged to sign the guest register. We took the tour and at no time was a
"donation" mentioned. Genaro, the caretaker's son has left the ranch because of a lack of money due to the resriction against him and his brother from
giving tours, in the mission proper and the poor economy. there is a current dispute between the church and the Mexican department of antiquties as to
who controls the Mission. I believe the caretaker is caught in the middle.
P.S. The church lady lives on the caretakes's property three days a week and pays no rent
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Natalie Ann
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Oggie, your pix make me long for the desert. Nice trip report. Thank you.
nena
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Thanks Oggie for sharing you Baja adventure with us. I can't wait to get to Baja myself.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oggie
| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
Once you left San Borja, were you able to drive there by yourself or did you need to 'hire' one of the boys to guide you?
great photos. |
After reading about the aggressive tour guides, in the Mission and the caretakers son's, that in the past I had not experienced in previous visits, I
was paying close attention as to how we were treated.
We were contacted almost immeadiatley upon approaching the Mission by a woman connected with the Catholic Church.
She asked us if we would like a tour of the mission. We said yes and were encouraged to sign the guest register. We took the tour and at no time was a
"donation" mentioned. Genaro, the caretaker's son has left the ranch because of a lack of money due to the resriction against him and his brother from
giving tours, in the mission proper and the poor economy. there is a current dispute between the church and the Mexican department of antiquties as to
who controls the Mission. I believe the caretaker is caught in the middle.
P.S. The church lady lives on the caretakes's property three days a week and pays no rent |
Thanks for your view of what happened... Indeed the economy is bad, but the only pressure for a tour or donation comes from the Catholic lady and NOT
from Jose (you call the 'caretaker') or his family... a truly humble and honest family who for so many years have been so very kind to everyone I have
heard talk about them, except one Nomad. Graham talks much about Jose in his 1997 book 'Journey with a Baja Burro', as they provided shelter for
Graham during the El Niņo storms of that year.
Jose of San Borja, July, 2009
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