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timnavion
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South Dakota plates
Read in the gringo gazette that our vehicles that are registered out of state (I live in Ca.) after this year you need to have residency of the state
your car is registered,any truth to that and the vehicles we have registered are they "grandfathered" in? Maybe we need to form an LLC or Corporation
there for all the Nomads.
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DENNIS
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Welcome to BajaNomad, Timnavion. I haven't heard anything although I figuered it was just a matter of time before Arnold stuck his incompetent,
muscle bound nose into this. I have one vehicle registered in SD so I'll be watching.
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BigWooo
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I did some research in this area. Talked to the CHP and they said that if you have a CA drivers license you must have CA plates. It's been law for
quite some time. Nothing new.
They said if you have a second home in another state, and a vehicle registered in that state, if you get pulled over for some reason and they check,
you may be able to reason your way out of a ticket depending on the officer. The law says however, that if you have a CA drivers license you must
have CA plates.
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by BigWooo]
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estebanis
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Time to get a License in S.D.! I'll go with you if you have a good Pheasant Hunting Connection! 
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timnavion
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Actually the vehicles are in mexico with South Dakota plates and registered thru feb. 2011,I live in Ca., and the GG said to renew registration next
year,in SD,because of some new law with homeland security,you need to show proof of residency of the state which you are registering the vehicle.
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MitchMan
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I am not sure I understand what is being said here. I live in CA and I just bought a 98 Toyota Tacoma in Washington state and got a 3 day permit
from WA to drive it to my Calif residence, which I did. The truck is in my driveway right now. I am going to register it in SD by mail. The truck
will not be registered by the state of Calif. I will be taking the truck to Baja within the next 30 days and leaving the truck in Baja for at least
the next 8 years.
Currently, Calif law states that if you are a Calif resident with a Calif drivers license, then you are not allowed at all to drive ON ANY CALIFORNIA
STREET OR HIGHWAY a vehicle that you own that is registered in another state, period. However, you are allowed to get a one day permit from Calif
DMV to drive said vehicle on Calif streets so long as you are driving the vehicle out of the state for that permitted day.
The existing law already prevents my driving an owned non-Calif registered vehicle on Calif streets. But, I don't see how anything could change from
the status quo.
As far as I can surmise, it doesn't matter what Arnold or the state of Calif does that will have any affect one way or another on my ability to
register the truck in South Dakota and then maintain the vehicle outside of Calif.
I guess that I am assuming that it is not technically illegal in Calif to own and possess a vehicle (that you have registered in another state other
than Calif) on your own private property (e.g., my driveway in or in my garage, i.e. not parked on a public Calif street my case) or to own and
possess such non-Calif registered vehicle outside of Calif (e.g. in Baja).
Or, are you guys talking about the possibility that Mexico, in the near future, may require that your US registered vehicles must be registered by the
same US state as your USA state drivers license?
I am confused.
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by MitchMan]
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MitchMan
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Timnavion,
are you specifically saying that South Dakota is going to require that in order to renew the SD registration next year, you will have to show
residency in SD? I just talked to Clay County about my registering my truck with their state disclosing that I am a Calif resident and they said
nothing about this. They just told me what to send them by mail and asserted to me that my Calif residency status is not a factor for the
registration process in my circumstances.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by timnavion
,because of some new law with homeland security,you need to show proof of residency of the state which you are registering the vehicle.
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This won't get you a DL, but it will give you residency in SD for 99 bucks a year:
http://www.americas-mailbox.com/
[Edited on 5-12-2010 by DENNIS]
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MitchMan
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Dennis, very cool.
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maspacifico
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Americas Mailbox is the way to go if the stuff hits the fan down here and we all need South Dakota drivers licenses, but you don't need it to register
a vehicle. I think we only need to look at the source to see where this worry and confusion is coming from. That's right....The Gazoot! They never
seem to worry about confirming any information they put in. The article I read was put into their heads by the same guy that advertises SD
registration services with them.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by maspacifico
Americas Mailbox is the way to go if the stuff hits the fan down here and we all need South Dakota drivers licenses, but you don't need it to register
a vehicle. I think we only need to look at the source to see where this worry and confusion is coming from. That's right....The Gazoot! They never
seem to worry about confirming any information they put in. The article I read was put into their heads by the same guy that advertises SD
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Yeah....I think you're right. Rumors can build up around here worse than they ever did in the Army.
So...somebody in the mix has an agenda in causing panic over the issue? Why am I not surprised.
The problem for me, if it actually ever becomes one, is that I have a financed car with Ca. plates along with an SD plated truck, and I have a Ca.
DL. If I were to go up there and get an SD license, I'd have to give up the Ca. DL.
Oh well....I'm not going to worry about anything that hasen't yet happened.
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maspacifico
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I think if the only thing homeland security would interested in would be the drivers license. That is a legal form of ID and I can see where you would
have to be there to get it. Mexico, as a country, only cares about whether the vehicle is registered legally. It is legal to have cars registered in
different states...it is illegal to have two drivers licenses. Now we have to convince the local cops!
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bajaguy
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Hmmmmmm, if you obtained a SD drivers license and changed residency to SD, you wouldn't have to pay California income tax. 
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Bob and Susan
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mitchman
can you reference this...
"Currently, Calif law states that if you are a Calif resident with a Calif drivers license, then you are not allowed at all to drive ON ANY CALIFORNIA
STREET OR HIGHWAY a vehicle that you own that is registered in another state, period."
i can't find a reference for this statement in the CA DMV rules
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Bajahowodd
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That's the Ticket
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Hmmmmmm, if you obtained a SD drivers license and changed residency to SD, you wouldn't have to pay California income tax. |
Not really hard to do, and save a bundle.
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Riom
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
can you reference this...
"Currently, Calif law states that if you are a Calif resident with a Calif drivers license, then you are not allowed at all to drive ON ANY CALIFORNIA
STREET OR HIGHWAY a vehicle that you own that is registered in another state, period."
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This is probably one of the sources for it:
http://www.redding.com/news/2010/jan/30/cop-talk-if-you-live...
This article says you can register your car in more than one state, with two sets of plates, and use both or either. I've never heard this mentioned
anywhere else before. It would be very useful to be able to import a car into Mexico, but retain the US registration (SD) for use when driving in the
US...
Rob
[Edited on 2010-5-13 by Riom]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Riom
It would be very useful to be able to import a car into Mexico, but retain the US registration (SD) for use when driving in the US...
Rob |
Cross border merchants do it. I've seen countless vans and pick-ups with Baja and Ca plates.
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Bob and Susan
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you can have both usa plates and baja plates
but i cant find a reference to dual state plates
USA doesnt recognize the baja plate if you have a CALIFORNIA plate
i always had to surrender the other USA state plates when registering a car in california
california veh code 516 does say if you have a california drivers license that proves residence but there are other qualifiers
might mean a trip to court later...
it also says you need to be in the state 6 month or more
i know by showing a mexican drivers license at the jury courthouse makes you "poison"
they never want you to serve...to risky for the verdict
now...the statemen made that:
"Currently, Calif law states that if you are a Calif resident with a Calif drivers license, then you are not allowed at all to drive ON ANY CALIFORNIA
STREET OR HIGHWAY a vehicle that you own that is registered in another state, period"
THIS STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE
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bajajudy
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You cannot register a vehicle in south dakota without a south dakota address. A friend sent in all her information and it was sent back to her
because she did not have an south dakota address.
I dont know about the grandfathering but I hope someone will tell us.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i always had to surrender the other USA state plates when registering a car in california
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Each state has it's own regs, I guess. SD doesn't require you to trade plates, only pink slips.
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